More common sense for buyers

[jeeman]

I am not a realtor and despise the inefficiencies in the real estate commissions. However, builders do pay a co-op if a realtor brings in a buyer. If you, as a buyer, think you can get this coop on your own, go for it. Otherwise, a realtor can spend one hour to come in, get the coop and give most of it back to you (provided you negotiate this beforehand).

Jee

[jeeman]

I am not a realtor and despise the inefficiencies in the real estate commissions. However, builders do pay a co-op if a realtor brings in a buyer. If you, as a buyer, think you can get this coop on your own, go for it. Otherwise, a realtor can spend one hour to come in, get the coop and give most of it back to you (provided you negotiate this beforehand).

Jee

[SD Realtor]

Hi Rus –

I actually started this thread from an email I got from a lurker who was asking me about

“how to get out of a transaction with a builder” question!

So after an extended conversation with them, I told them that I periodically post recommendations for people buying from builders and that I would do it again today.

I would be much more happier to post my email address but in the past I have been subject to allegations of shilling and inappropriate postings so I am ultra careful not to do that anymore. I don’t post my email or website. I would like to but I do not.

I have already said and will say it again that yes I try to be helpful in this blog and of course I try to get business from the blog as well. I don’t hide that fact at all. Anyone who reads my posts recognizes the slants, parses through them, and keeps the useful part of them. Maybe I should have a signature that says

SD Realtor (always trying to help, but also working the board to get business)

Anyways anyone who has ever called or emailed me always got any data or contact information that they asked for regardless of whether they used me as their agent or not.

The attorney that I would recommend is a great one. His pricing structure is 200 an hour with a 1200 minimum. He was a former client and if anyone wants his contact information, which some of you reading already have, simply put your information in a post and I will email it.

As for keeping it real, all my posts are real Rus. I believe they are helpful, yes I am trying to get business, yes I will help regardless of if you do business with me or not. So… let me know how much more real I can get.

SD Realtor (always trying to help, but also working the board to get business)

[SD Realtor]

Hi Rus –

I actually started this thread from an email I got from a lurker who was asking me about

“how to get out of a transaction with a builder” question!

So after an extended conversation with them, I told them that I periodically post recommendations for people buying from builders and that I would do it again today.

I would be much more happier to post my email address but in the past I have been subject to allegations of shilling and inappropriate postings so I am ultra careful not to do that anymore. I don’t post my email or website. I would like to but I do not.

I have already said and will say it again that yes I try to be helpful in this blog and of course I try to get business from the blog as well. I don’t hide that fact at all. Anyone who reads my posts recognizes the slants, parses through them, and keeps the useful part of them. Maybe I should have a signature that says

SD Realtor (always trying to help, but also working the board to get business)

Anyways anyone who has ever called or emailed me always got any data or contact information that they asked for regardless of whether they used me as their agent or not.

The attorney that I would recommend is a great one. His pricing structure is 200 an hour with a 1200 minimum. He was a former client and if anyone wants his contact information, which some of you reading already have, simply put your information in a post and I will email it.

As for keeping it real, all my posts are real Rus. I believe they are helpful, yes I am trying to get business, yes I will help regardless of if you do business with me or not. So… let me know how much more real I can get.

SD Realtor (always trying to help, but also working the board to get business)

[SD Realtor]

Ash –

The purchase agreements that are produced by the builders are excrutiating. They blow away the 8 page RPA that is used in resales. There are not many buyers at all who bother to actually read the agreement from start to finish. Those that do rarely know what they are giving up with regards to contingencies when compared with buying a resale home. I have been through several sittings, when I accompany buyers to the sales offices of these developers. The questions that I pose to the sales agents are well above and beyond the questions the buyers would have asked on their own. The buyers have always been thankful for me to accompany them, and in just about every case, have BACKED OUT of the deal rather then moving forward.

Any realtor who does work does it for the money. Any good realtor knows that the only way to procure long term clients is to do alot of legwork for them which in MOST CASES will not produce a sale at all. It is called the cost of doing business. sdr has posted cases where he has buyers who have been working with him for years to find the right home. The top producing agents establish relationships with people that involves alot of time and effort with little to no return.

Your statement rings true for a good deal of agents. However it does not ring true for all of them. Without shilling here, and in all seriousness, if you want to post your email address, I will send you contacts for my clients and you can contact them and ask them if they were happy with my work.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

Ash –

The purchase agreements that are produced by the builders are excrutiating. They blow away the 8 page RPA that is used in resales. There are not many buyers at all who bother to actually read the agreement from start to finish. Those that do rarely know what they are giving up with regards to contingencies when compared with buying a resale home. I have been through several sittings, when I accompany buyers to the sales offices of these developers. The questions that I pose to the sales agents are well above and beyond the questions the buyers would have asked on their own. The buyers have always been thankful for me to accompany them, and in just about every case, have BACKED OUT of the deal rather then moving forward.

Any realtor who does work does it for the money. Any good realtor knows that the only way to procure long term clients is to do alot of legwork for them which in MOST CASES will not produce a sale at all. It is called the cost of doing business. sdr has posted cases where he has buyers who have been working with him for years to find the right home. The top producing agents establish relationships with people that involves alot of time and effort with little to no return.

Your statement rings true for a good deal of agents. However it does not ring true for all of them. Without shilling here, and in all seriousness, if you want to post your email address, I will send you contacts for my clients and you can contact them and ask them if they were happy with my work.

SD Realtor

[PerryChase]

I have no problem with SD Realtor getting business here. If people are going to buy, it might as well be from a contributor here.

SD realtor is nice about sharing info. People have posted questions about houses and neighborhoods and he always answers.

[PerryChase]

I have no problem with SD Realtor getting business here. If people are going to buy, it might as well be from a contributor here.

SD realtor is nice about sharing info. People have posted questions about houses and neighborhoods and he always answers.

[NotCranky]

Thanks for your reply SDR,
I am not trying to hurt you.

“Anyone who reads my posts recognizes the slants, parses through them, and keeps the useful part of,”

Those of use who are not buyers are supposed to debate around your slants? Are you sure that everybody so easily “parses” through them? What is not manipulative about expecting people to do so especially in someone elses forum and when they counter other more genuine imput?
A simple disclaimer that you are working the blog doesn’t make up for that in my opinion. It doesn’t make the slanted input you give any more real than the input of some troll. We can disagree but let’s be genuine about it.

[NotCranky]

Thanks for your reply SDR,
I am not trying to hurt you.

“Anyone who reads my posts recognizes the slants, parses through them, and keeps the useful part of,”

Those of use who are not buyers are supposed to debate around your slants? Are you sure that everybody so easily “parses” through them? What is not manipulative about expecting people to do so especially in someone elses forum and when they counter other more genuine imput?
A simple disclaimer that you are working the blog doesn’t make up for that in my opinion. It doesn’t make the slanted input you give any more real than the input of some troll. We can disagree but let’s be genuine about it.

[SD Realtor]

Rus I absolutely know your posts are never intended to be hurtful or personal in any manner. Nor are they accusatory either. They are always inquisitive and I believe your post in this thread was no different.

Now as for your questions, which are always challenging, lets see what I can do to answer them…

#1

I am very much okay with everyone debating my slants, whether they are buyers, sellers, real estate professional or not. That is okay with me.

#2

Hmmm.. that is a tough one. Yes I actually did believe most everyone would see through them. That obviously is my mistake.

#3

While my responses and/or posts may be slanted, I am not intentionally trying to manipulate people. I sincerely do not feel my input is not geniune Rus. Point out something where what I wrote is not geniune or misleading.

#4

Again point out what I said to be misleading or not genuine. I think that this goes back to point #1 or 2 that you made. I have no problem debating about what I post. If there are inherent misunderstandings about it, then for sure bring it out, post it, I will be more then happy to discuss it.

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SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

Rus I absolutely know your posts are never intended to be hurtful or personal in any manner. Nor are they accusatory either. They are always inquisitive and I believe your post in this thread was no different.

Now as for your questions, which are always challenging, lets see what I can do to answer them…

#1

I am very much okay with everyone debating my slants, whether they are buyers, sellers, real estate professional or not. That is okay with me.

#2

Hmmm.. that is a tough one. Yes I actually did believe most everyone would see through them. That obviously is my mistake.

#3

While my responses and/or posts may be slanted, I am not intentionally trying to manipulate people. I sincerely do not feel my input is not geniune Rus. Point out something where what I wrote is not geniune or misleading.

#4

Again point out what I said to be misleading or not genuine. I think that this goes back to point #1 or 2 that you made. I have no problem debating about what I post. If there are inherent misunderstandings about it, then for sure bring it out, post it, I will be more then happy to discuss it.

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SD Realtor

[Ash Housewares]

SDR, I have no doubt you are a great Realtor, and I would contact you if I were looking to buy in San Diego. It was just the implication of the statement that irked me- it seemed to imply that all a buyer had to do was get a Realtor and then sit back feeling that they are being looked after. I just meant to point out that with sales as slow as they are, the horde of new Realtors who have not yet established client bases are getting desperate, and people should watch their own backs rather than simply trusting the Realtor 100%.

[Ash Housewares]

SDR, I have no doubt you are a great Realtor, and I would contact you if I were looking to buy in San Diego. It was just the implication of the statement that irked me- it seemed to imply that all a buyer had to do was get a Realtor and then sit back feeling that they are being looked after. I just meant to point out that with sales as slow as they are, the horde of new Realtors who have not yet established client bases are getting desperate, and people should watch their own backs rather than simply trusting the Realtor 100%.

[SD Realtor]

Ash well made point. Thank you for correcting me.

If you made that implication then I am sure others did as well. I think that what you pointed out parallels what Rus was saying that I incorrectly assume things when I post… that I am not conveying what I am thinking (conciously or otherwise) clearly. Either of you can/should correct me…

I need to be more cognicent of that.

SD Realtor

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