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January 16, 2008 at 12:14 AM #136950January 16, 2008 at 12:42 AM #136659patientrenterParticipant
flu, I am down on my income portfolio (dividend-paying stocks) by… something. I use the portfolio for income, so I don’t pay as much attention to the market value. National City bank is in there, and some other banks, so I expect the dividends will be down a bit next year. Market values are probably down by 2-5% from year-end. What I care about is the dividends, and I’ll just have to wait and see what happens to dividends in the aggregate in this recession.
To hedge any loss of future dividends from some of my dividend-paying companies suffering permanent damage, I bought yen/british pound futures and yen/euro futures in mid-Dec, for a total notional amount equal to 150% of my stock portfolio (to account for a 1/3 tax rate on the futures). Overall, I am probably ahead by a few %.
I wish you a speedy recovery.
Patient renter in OC
January 16, 2008 at 12:42 AM #136857patientrenterParticipantflu, I am down on my income portfolio (dividend-paying stocks) by… something. I use the portfolio for income, so I don’t pay as much attention to the market value. National City bank is in there, and some other banks, so I expect the dividends will be down a bit next year. Market values are probably down by 2-5% from year-end. What I care about is the dividends, and I’ll just have to wait and see what happens to dividends in the aggregate in this recession.
To hedge any loss of future dividends from some of my dividend-paying companies suffering permanent damage, I bought yen/british pound futures and yen/euro futures in mid-Dec, for a total notional amount equal to 150% of my stock portfolio (to account for a 1/3 tax rate on the futures). Overall, I am probably ahead by a few %.
I wish you a speedy recovery.
Patient renter in OC
January 16, 2008 at 12:42 AM #136892patientrenterParticipantflu, I am down on my income portfolio (dividend-paying stocks) by… something. I use the portfolio for income, so I don’t pay as much attention to the market value. National City bank is in there, and some other banks, so I expect the dividends will be down a bit next year. Market values are probably down by 2-5% from year-end. What I care about is the dividends, and I’ll just have to wait and see what happens to dividends in the aggregate in this recession.
To hedge any loss of future dividends from some of my dividend-paying companies suffering permanent damage, I bought yen/british pound futures and yen/euro futures in mid-Dec, for a total notional amount equal to 150% of my stock portfolio (to account for a 1/3 tax rate on the futures). Overall, I am probably ahead by a few %.
I wish you a speedy recovery.
Patient renter in OC
January 16, 2008 at 12:42 AM #136920patientrenterParticipantflu, I am down on my income portfolio (dividend-paying stocks) by… something. I use the portfolio for income, so I don’t pay as much attention to the market value. National City bank is in there, and some other banks, so I expect the dividends will be down a bit next year. Market values are probably down by 2-5% from year-end. What I care about is the dividends, and I’ll just have to wait and see what happens to dividends in the aggregate in this recession.
To hedge any loss of future dividends from some of my dividend-paying companies suffering permanent damage, I bought yen/british pound futures and yen/euro futures in mid-Dec, for a total notional amount equal to 150% of my stock portfolio (to account for a 1/3 tax rate on the futures). Overall, I am probably ahead by a few %.
I wish you a speedy recovery.
Patient renter in OC
January 16, 2008 at 12:42 AM #136958patientrenterParticipantflu, I am down on my income portfolio (dividend-paying stocks) by… something. I use the portfolio for income, so I don’t pay as much attention to the market value. National City bank is in there, and some other banks, so I expect the dividends will be down a bit next year. Market values are probably down by 2-5% from year-end. What I care about is the dividends, and I’ll just have to wait and see what happens to dividends in the aggregate in this recession.
To hedge any loss of future dividends from some of my dividend-paying companies suffering permanent damage, I bought yen/british pound futures and yen/euro futures in mid-Dec, for a total notional amount equal to 150% of my stock portfolio (to account for a 1/3 tax rate on the futures). Overall, I am probably ahead by a few %.
I wish you a speedy recovery.
Patient renter in OC
January 16, 2008 at 5:45 AM #136668CoronitaParticipantSorry to hear, flu. That said, I hope you sold your EWJ some time back … yikes.
Fortunately, yes i did, though even if held onto it, it probably would be a less steep loss than some of my other holdings π
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January 16, 2008 at 5:45 AM #136869CoronitaParticipantSorry to hear, flu. That said, I hope you sold your EWJ some time back … yikes.
Fortunately, yes i did, though even if held onto it, it probably would be a less steep loss than some of my other holdings π
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
January 16, 2008 at 5:45 AM #136903CoronitaParticipantSorry to hear, flu. That said, I hope you sold your EWJ some time back … yikes.
Fortunately, yes i did, though even if held onto it, it probably would be a less steep loss than some of my other holdings π
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
January 16, 2008 at 5:45 AM #136929CoronitaParticipantSorry to hear, flu. That said, I hope you sold your EWJ some time back … yikes.
Fortunately, yes i did, though even if held onto it, it probably would be a less steep loss than some of my other holdings π
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
January 16, 2008 at 5:45 AM #136969CoronitaParticipantSorry to hear, flu. That said, I hope you sold your EWJ some time back … yikes.
Fortunately, yes i did, though even if held onto it, it probably would be a less steep loss than some of my other holdings π
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
January 16, 2008 at 6:20 AM #136675CoronitaParticipantBummer flu. Are you sure it's a lung infection and not this highly contagious, drug-resistant staph infection MRSA that's affecting many? I know two people who had it, took about a year to recover, and both exhibited lung-infection-like symptoms.
Anyhow, hope this makes you feel better. }:D
Great. That would be icing on the cake, wouldn't it? π I'll talk to my doctor again next week if this doesn't clear up.
I'm not too worried about the cold yet, because my wife is almost fine. I guess here immune system is pretty good, and fortunately my daughter takes after her in this regardless.
I think I'm in my current state mainly out of my own neglect. I haven't been really sleeping that much, until sort of now that I have to. I've been too busy trying to get an application prototype done for a google developer challenge thats due in March. We need to publicity from this, not to mention any part of that $10million prize money would be nice seed money to a startup. Though, at the way things are currently progressing, we're probably not going to make it by the March deadline. Another crappy setback in 2008.
Thread hijack: tech junkies that are interested in the challenge:
http://code.google.com/android/adc.html
Deadline is 3/2, and I forgot February is a short month.
Don't ask about partnering with me and my team yet. One, we probably aren't going to make it by the deadline. Also,Β I'm a believer that the true motivator of getting sh!t done is a small team with stiff competition and very small odds of succeeding. I've been seeing some of the apps people are creating, and I can say a lot of examples from people from eastern europe are amazing. So like I said, the odds in the challenge are really stacked against you.Β
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
January 16, 2008 at 6:20 AM #136874CoronitaParticipantBummer flu. Are you sure it's a lung infection and not this highly contagious, drug-resistant staph infection MRSA that's affecting many? I know two people who had it, took about a year to recover, and both exhibited lung-infection-like symptoms.
Anyhow, hope this makes you feel better. }:D
Great. That would be icing on the cake, wouldn't it? π I'll talk to my doctor again next week if this doesn't clear up.
I'm not too worried about the cold yet, because my wife is almost fine. I guess here immune system is pretty good, and fortunately my daughter takes after her in this regardless.
I think I'm in my current state mainly out of my own neglect. I haven't been really sleeping that much, until sort of now that I have to. I've been too busy trying to get an application prototype done for a google developer challenge thats due in March. We need to publicity from this, not to mention any part of that $10million prize money would be nice seed money to a startup. Though, at the way things are currently progressing, we're probably not going to make it by the March deadline. Another crappy setback in 2008.
Thread hijack: tech junkies that are interested in the challenge:
http://code.google.com/android/adc.html
Deadline is 3/2, and I forgot February is a short month.
Don't ask about partnering with me and my team yet. One, we probably aren't going to make it by the deadline. Also,Β I'm a believer that the true motivator of getting sh!t done is a small team with stiff competition and very small odds of succeeding. I've been seeing some of the apps people are creating, and I can say a lot of examples from people from eastern europe are amazing. So like I said, the odds in the challenge are really stacked against you.Β
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
January 16, 2008 at 6:20 AM #136909CoronitaParticipantBummer flu. Are you sure it's a lung infection and not this highly contagious, drug-resistant staph infection MRSA that's affecting many? I know two people who had it, took about a year to recover, and both exhibited lung-infection-like symptoms.
Anyhow, hope this makes you feel better. }:D
Great. That would be icing on the cake, wouldn't it? π I'll talk to my doctor again next week if this doesn't clear up.
I'm not too worried about the cold yet, because my wife is almost fine. I guess here immune system is pretty good, and fortunately my daughter takes after her in this regardless.
I think I'm in my current state mainly out of my own neglect. I haven't been really sleeping that much, until sort of now that I have to. I've been too busy trying to get an application prototype done for a google developer challenge thats due in March. We need to publicity from this, not to mention any part of that $10million prize money would be nice seed money to a startup. Though, at the way things are currently progressing, we're probably not going to make it by the March deadline. Another crappy setback in 2008.
Thread hijack: tech junkies that are interested in the challenge:
http://code.google.com/android/adc.html
Deadline is 3/2, and I forgot February is a short month.
Don't ask about partnering with me and my team yet. One, we probably aren't going to make it by the deadline. Also,Β I'm a believer that the true motivator of getting sh!t done is a small team with stiff competition and very small odds of succeeding. I've been seeing some of the apps people are creating, and I can say a lot of examples from people from eastern europe are amazing. So like I said, the odds in the challenge are really stacked against you.Β
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
January 16, 2008 at 6:20 AM #136934CoronitaParticipantBummer flu. Are you sure it's a lung infection and not this highly contagious, drug-resistant staph infection MRSA that's affecting many? I know two people who had it, took about a year to recover, and both exhibited lung-infection-like symptoms.
Anyhow, hope this makes you feel better. }:D
Great. That would be icing on the cake, wouldn't it? π I'll talk to my doctor again next week if this doesn't clear up.
I'm not too worried about the cold yet, because my wife is almost fine. I guess here immune system is pretty good, and fortunately my daughter takes after her in this regardless.
I think I'm in my current state mainly out of my own neglect. I haven't been really sleeping that much, until sort of now that I have to. I've been too busy trying to get an application prototype done for a google developer challenge thats due in March. We need to publicity from this, not to mention any part of that $10million prize money would be nice seed money to a startup. Though, at the way things are currently progressing, we're probably not going to make it by the March deadline. Another crappy setback in 2008.
Thread hijack: tech junkies that are interested in the challenge:
http://code.google.com/android/adc.html
Deadline is 3/2, and I forgot February is a short month.
Don't ask about partnering with me and my team yet. One, we probably aren't going to make it by the deadline. Also,Β I'm a believer that the true motivator of getting sh!t done is a small team with stiff competition and very small odds of succeeding. I've been seeing some of the apps people are creating, and I can say a lot of examples from people from eastern europe are amazing. So like I said, the odds in the challenge are really stacked against you.Β
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
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