Man-cession

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=temeculaguy]And bringing this back to the uneven unemployment numbers and away from child care, how is this to affect low end/smaller rentals or certain neighborhoods. Will it treat sfr’s differently. It would seem that the unemployment numbers are not affecting everyone the same and there is a demographic element to the various housing markets. Could the racial inequities of the unemployment numbers be the reason certain communities are sticky in price, while others are not? There’s something there, it’s just not plain as day. It is causing me to rethink my plan to buy a small aprtmentish/condoish rental in a low end neighborhood (where I find the best values and ROI). Since married, non-minority women are the least affected by the unemployment rise, and demographicly as a group they value schools and crime rates probably more than other groups, I think if you look at the demographics of those communities that are sticky, you’ll find low crime and good schools. In bad times it seems important to know who is unemployed, just as much as how many. It may also back up some recent posts about bread and butter rental communities being in the mid level and not the lowest, even if I like the numbers better because others are afraid.

Forget trying to fix scardey, he is who he is and his name is fitting, at least he realizes he can’t make a decision without some level of regret.[/quote]

Very hard now but in the beginning of the year you could find SFH’s that would cash flow under $1000.0
In decent area’s (not real good but not horrible either), my guess that is the Home Depot job type ceiling.

And I would agree about apartments and to a lesser extent Condo’s, but low end SFH’s are a hot rental market or just very in demand period..

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

Slightly off topic, but still about the current mess we are in , One of the CEO’s from a well known home builder finally said something that I have been saying for a while now, And that is that the appraisers are appraising everything like it was the dilapidated REO that just sold down the street regardless of condition, and that is keeping the market depressed. Believe it or not , it is not doing the average home buyer a favor by doing this, the only persons that seems to be winning this battle are the all cash investor types,

If you need to get a loan you will need to get the home values above where the flippers and all cash low ballers will lose interest, (ie.. about the cost to build is my guess), then maybe you will see builders start a few project again.

In places Like TV anyway

Just my two cents.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

Slightly off topic, but still about the current mess we are in , One of the CEO’s from a well known home builder finally said something that I have been saying for a while now, And that is that the appraisers are appraising everything like it was the dilapidated REO that just sold down the street regardless of condition, and that is keeping the market depressed. Believe it or not , it is not doing the average home buyer a favor by doing this, the only persons that seems to be winning this battle are the all cash investor types,

If you need to get a loan you will need to get the home values above where the flippers and all cash low ballers will lose interest, (ie.. about the cost to build is my guess), then maybe you will see builders start a few project again.

In places Like TV anyway

Just my two cents.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

Slightly off topic, but still about the current mess we are in , One of the CEO’s from a well known home builder finally said something that I have been saying for a while now, And that is that the appraisers are appraising everything like it was the dilapidated REO that just sold down the street regardless of condition, and that is keeping the market depressed. Believe it or not , it is not doing the average home buyer a favor by doing this, the only persons that seems to be winning this battle are the all cash investor types,

If you need to get a loan you will need to get the home values above where the flippers and all cash low ballers will lose interest, (ie.. about the cost to build is my guess), then maybe you will see builders start a few project again.

In places Like TV anyway

Just my two cents.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

Slightly off topic, but still about the current mess we are in , One of the CEO’s from a well known home builder finally said something that I have been saying for a while now, And that is that the appraisers are appraising everything like it was the dilapidated REO that just sold down the street regardless of condition, and that is keeping the market depressed. Believe it or not , it is not doing the average home buyer a favor by doing this, the only persons that seems to be winning this battle are the all cash investor types,

If you need to get a loan you will need to get the home values above where the flippers and all cash low ballers will lose interest, (ie.. about the cost to build is my guess), then maybe you will see builders start a few project again.

In places Like TV anyway

Just my two cents.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

Slightly off topic, but still about the current mess we are in , One of the CEO’s from a well known home builder finally said something that I have been saying for a while now, And that is that the appraisers are appraising everything like it was the dilapidated REO that just sold down the street regardless of condition, and that is keeping the market depressed. Believe it or not , it is not doing the average home buyer a favor by doing this, the only persons that seems to be winning this battle are the all cash investor types,

If you need to get a loan you will need to get the home values above where the flippers and all cash low ballers will lose interest, (ie.. about the cost to build is my guess), then maybe you will see builders start a few project again.

In places Like TV anyway

Just my two cents.

[NotCranky]

[quote=temeculaguy][quote=Russell]Sorry about the thread jack TG, all I could think to talk about today was to either football,breasts or child care, Real estate was was little off the map. I just must stay away from politics. I don’t usually go on about breasts publicly, and nobody likes what I say about football.[/quote]

No apology needed russell, I guess I never put much thought into child care, I used real state to solve that problem a long time ago and bought a house in walking distance to both sets of my kids grandparents (and some people wonder why I live here, that’s the #1 reason). I guess this luxury allows for more time to ponder football and breasts.[/quote]

I am envious of the grandparent thing. My parent’s died when I was a kid and young adult, one each. I would probably not let them do child care anyway, from what I know of them.
My wife’s parents are good to us and the kids but they are not going to relocate for the sake of doing the grandparent thing until they are too old to do it, if at all. They live in a nice place but we don’t want to live there for reasons which include employment.

Sounds like you had a best case scenario for yourself.

I took into consideration my situation and vision for best satisfying my future children’s needs, in combination with the modest material existence that I hoped for out of life, a long time before I had children. It didn’t solve everything but it helps a lot to have done it.

[NotCranky]

[quote=temeculaguy][quote=Russell]Sorry about the thread jack TG, all I could think to talk about today was to either football,breasts or child care, Real estate was was little off the map. I just must stay away from politics. I don’t usually go on about breasts publicly, and nobody likes what I say about football.[/quote]

No apology needed russell, I guess I never put much thought into child care, I used real state to solve that problem a long time ago and bought a house in walking distance to both sets of my kids grandparents (and some people wonder why I live here, that’s the #1 reason). I guess this luxury allows for more time to ponder football and breasts.[/quote]

I am envious of the grandparent thing. My parent’s died when I was a kid and young adult, one each. I would probably not let them do child care anyway, from what I know of them.
My wife’s parents are good to us and the kids but they are not going to relocate for the sake of doing the grandparent thing until they are too old to do it, if at all. They live in a nice place but we don’t want to live there for reasons which include employment.

Sounds like you had a best case scenario for yourself.

I took into consideration my situation and vision for best satisfying my future children’s needs, in combination with the modest material existence that I hoped for out of life, a long time before I had children. It didn’t solve everything but it helps a lot to have done it.

[NotCranky]

[quote=temeculaguy][quote=Russell]Sorry about the thread jack TG, all I could think to talk about today was to either football,breasts or child care, Real estate was was little off the map. I just must stay away from politics. I don’t usually go on about breasts publicly, and nobody likes what I say about football.[/quote]

No apology needed russell, I guess I never put much thought into child care, I used real state to solve that problem a long time ago and bought a house in walking distance to both sets of my kids grandparents (and some people wonder why I live here, that’s the #1 reason). I guess this luxury allows for more time to ponder football and breasts.[/quote]

I am envious of the grandparent thing. My parent’s died when I was a kid and young adult, one each. I would probably not let them do child care anyway, from what I know of them.
My wife’s parents are good to us and the kids but they are not going to relocate for the sake of doing the grandparent thing until they are too old to do it, if at all. They live in a nice place but we don’t want to live there for reasons which include employment.

Sounds like you had a best case scenario for yourself.

I took into consideration my situation and vision for best satisfying my future children’s needs, in combination with the modest material existence that I hoped for out of life, a long time before I had children. It didn’t solve everything but it helps a lot to have done it.

[NotCranky]

[quote=temeculaguy][quote=Russell]Sorry about the thread jack TG, all I could think to talk about today was to either football,breasts or child care, Real estate was was little off the map. I just must stay away from politics. I don’t usually go on about breasts publicly, and nobody likes what I say about football.[/quote]

No apology needed russell, I guess I never put much thought into child care, I used real state to solve that problem a long time ago and bought a house in walking distance to both sets of my kids grandparents (and some people wonder why I live here, that’s the #1 reason). I guess this luxury allows for more time to ponder football and breasts.[/quote]

I am envious of the grandparent thing. My parent’s died when I was a kid and young adult, one each. I would probably not let them do child care anyway, from what I know of them.
My wife’s parents are good to us and the kids but they are not going to relocate for the sake of doing the grandparent thing until they are too old to do it, if at all. They live in a nice place but we don’t want to live there for reasons which include employment.

Sounds like you had a best case scenario for yourself.

I took into consideration my situation and vision for best satisfying my future children’s needs, in combination with the modest material existence that I hoped for out of life, a long time before I had children. It didn’t solve everything but it helps a lot to have done it.

[NotCranky]

[quote=temeculaguy][quote=Russell]Sorry about the thread jack TG, all I could think to talk about today was to either football,breasts or child care, Real estate was was little off the map. I just must stay away from politics. I don’t usually go on about breasts publicly, and nobody likes what I say about football.[/quote]

No apology needed russell, I guess I never put much thought into child care, I used real state to solve that problem a long time ago and bought a house in walking distance to both sets of my kids grandparents (and some people wonder why I live here, that’s the #1 reason). I guess this luxury allows for more time to ponder football and breasts.[/quote]

I am envious of the grandparent thing. My parent’s died when I was a kid and young adult, one each. I would probably not let them do child care anyway, from what I know of them.
My wife’s parents are good to us and the kids but they are not going to relocate for the sake of doing the grandparent thing until they are too old to do it, if at all. They live in a nice place but we don’t want to live there for reasons which include employment.

Sounds like you had a best case scenario for yourself.

I took into consideration my situation and vision for best satisfying my future children’s needs, in combination with the modest material existence that I hoped for out of life, a long time before I had children. It didn’t solve everything but it helps a lot to have done it.

[cabal]

[quote=scaredycat]i do feel like young guys get sold a bill of goods in society. we need to go back to arranged marraiges with family support. young people really cannot support themselves and afamily early on. arranged marriages. no reproducing without a care plan in place. if one party will stay at home, they have to sign binding agreements that they will do so. love stinks. we need some govt regulation[/quote]

Scaredy,
Your posts always read somewhat incoherent but nonetheless entertainng. You were born in the wrong era. Here’s a link to the infamous 1955 Good Housekeeping article for your enjoyment – “Good Wifes Guide”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Goodwifeguide.jpg

[cabal]

[quote=scaredycat]i do feel like young guys get sold a bill of goods in society. we need to go back to arranged marraiges with family support. young people really cannot support themselves and afamily early on. arranged marriages. no reproducing without a care plan in place. if one party will stay at home, they have to sign binding agreements that they will do so. love stinks. we need some govt regulation[/quote]

Scaredy,
Your posts always read somewhat incoherent but nonetheless entertainng. You were born in the wrong era. Here’s a link to the infamous 1955 Good Housekeeping article for your enjoyment – “Good Wifes Guide”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Goodwifeguide.jpg

[cabal]

[quote=scaredycat]i do feel like young guys get sold a bill of goods in society. we need to go back to arranged marraiges with family support. young people really cannot support themselves and afamily early on. arranged marriages. no reproducing without a care plan in place. if one party will stay at home, they have to sign binding agreements that they will do so. love stinks. we need some govt regulation[/quote]

Scaredy,
Your posts always read somewhat incoherent but nonetheless entertainng. You were born in the wrong era. Here’s a link to the infamous 1955 Good Housekeeping article for your enjoyment – “Good Wifes Guide”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Goodwifeguide.jpg

[cabal]

[quote=scaredycat]i do feel like young guys get sold a bill of goods in society. we need to go back to arranged marraiges with family support. young people really cannot support themselves and afamily early on. arranged marriages. no reproducing without a care plan in place. if one party will stay at home, they have to sign binding agreements that they will do so. love stinks. we need some govt regulation[/quote]

Scaredy,
Your posts always read somewhat incoherent but nonetheless entertainng. You were born in the wrong era. Here’s a link to the infamous 1955 Good Housekeeping article for your enjoyment – “Good Wifes Guide”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Goodwifeguide.jpg

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