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[quote=scaredycat]uh, more chidcare is ‘troublesome”?

got kids? ever struggled to try to find a freaking place to put em?

Ive raised a bunch of them, had good income, and there were patches of sheer crazed desperation trying to patch together a plan for making sure they were all cared for w/ no SAHM.

anybody who criticizes greate raccess to day care is IMHO not in touch with the reality of life in this no-family-support, overworked, crazy society.

even now when they’re big, schools let out at what, 2:30? what si the freaking plan/ where are all these kids to go? statsitically there’s gonna be problems.

it’s a constant source of worry and anxiety.

youc an say, then, well don’t have kids.

good point.

but kids are here. and SAHM situation not viable at all times for all families

so what’s the plan????

more better day care….[/quote]

Sheesh, you and your jacked up typing scaredy…..sorry, somebody had to say it at some point so it might as well be me.

I guess we’re on different parenting planets. Yes, I have kids, 3 to be exact. And no, I’ve never had a problem finding a place to “put em”. If I didn’t have the resources to raise a child I wouldn’t have them. Why have children if you want them in daycare or a government run school all day? Is that the teacher’s job now to babysit your kids?

You are only as overscheduled and crazy as you want yourself to be. And if you are crazy and overscheduled, why have kids? I don’t think people like that should have dogs.

What if the kids are already here?! Why do other people and institutions have to solve your problems? If you earn a good salary, hire someone to take care of your kids. Kids have always been getting out of school at 2:30. Why do we have to solve this problem for your kids now because you can’t figure out what to do with them between then and when you get off of work? And how do we plan to fund this extra daycare, longer school hours, and less summer vacations anyway? Do we suddenly have a surplus in education funds that I don’t know about?

[scaredyclassic]

there is a lack of good quality child care. At least there was back in 1995-1999 when it was a big issue for me.

without a stay at home parent, child care is a big issue.

Why do other people have to “solve my problems”. heck, why have any comunity, govt or so forth at all. Why shouldn’t I educate them all as well? Why depend on this whole “public school” thing. if I cannot pay for private tutors, I shouldn’t have reproduced.

“put ’em” is exactly how you’d feel if you were working like a dog and your wife was working and you were barely scraping by and you got thrown out of your day care with no place to turn and needing to get to work next week.

i suspect you are much wealthier than me when you ahd kids.

i suspect when people are actually scrambling for day care they view the situation 100% differently. I

I see your point-of-view; ‘i created the kids, i shoudl fend for them.” But in reality, what dopey men and women tell each other when they’re pondering having children is “oh honey it’ll work out, everyone makes it through”.

yeah, right. just barely. with super high levels of chaos, anxiety and uncertainty.

the government should be involved in schooling and childcare.

at least until the workday ends.

my typign is a little crazed, i concede that. i’ll try harder.

[scaredyclassic]

there is a lack of good quality child care. At least there was back in 1995-1999 when it was a big issue for me.

without a stay at home parent, child care is a big issue.

Why do other people have to “solve my problems”. heck, why have any comunity, govt or so forth at all. Why shouldn’t I educate them all as well? Why depend on this whole “public school” thing. if I cannot pay for private tutors, I shouldn’t have reproduced.

“put ’em” is exactly how you’d feel if you were working like a dog and your wife was working and you were barely scraping by and you got thrown out of your day care with no place to turn and needing to get to work next week.

i suspect you are much wealthier than me when you ahd kids.

i suspect when people are actually scrambling for day care they view the situation 100% differently. I

I see your point-of-view; ‘i created the kids, i shoudl fend for them.” But in reality, what dopey men and women tell each other when they’re pondering having children is “oh honey it’ll work out, everyone makes it through”.

yeah, right. just barely. with super high levels of chaos, anxiety and uncertainty.

the government should be involved in schooling and childcare.

at least until the workday ends.

my typign is a little crazed, i concede that. i’ll try harder.

[scaredyclassic]

there is a lack of good quality child care. At least there was back in 1995-1999 when it was a big issue for me.

without a stay at home parent, child care is a big issue.

Why do other people have to “solve my problems”. heck, why have any comunity, govt or so forth at all. Why shouldn’t I educate them all as well? Why depend on this whole “public school” thing. if I cannot pay for private tutors, I shouldn’t have reproduced.

“put ’em” is exactly how you’d feel if you were working like a dog and your wife was working and you were barely scraping by and you got thrown out of your day care with no place to turn and needing to get to work next week.

i suspect you are much wealthier than me when you ahd kids.

i suspect when people are actually scrambling for day care they view the situation 100% differently. I

I see your point-of-view; ‘i created the kids, i shoudl fend for them.” But in reality, what dopey men and women tell each other when they’re pondering having children is “oh honey it’ll work out, everyone makes it through”.

yeah, right. just barely. with super high levels of chaos, anxiety and uncertainty.

the government should be involved in schooling and childcare.

at least until the workday ends.

my typign is a little crazed, i concede that. i’ll try harder.

[scaredyclassic]

there is a lack of good quality child care. At least there was back in 1995-1999 when it was a big issue for me.

without a stay at home parent, child care is a big issue.

Why do other people have to “solve my problems”. heck, why have any comunity, govt or so forth at all. Why shouldn’t I educate them all as well? Why depend on this whole “public school” thing. if I cannot pay for private tutors, I shouldn’t have reproduced.

“put ’em” is exactly how you’d feel if you were working like a dog and your wife was working and you were barely scraping by and you got thrown out of your day care with no place to turn and needing to get to work next week.

i suspect you are much wealthier than me when you ahd kids.

i suspect when people are actually scrambling for day care they view the situation 100% differently. I

I see your point-of-view; ‘i created the kids, i shoudl fend for them.” But in reality, what dopey men and women tell each other when they’re pondering having children is “oh honey it’ll work out, everyone makes it through”.

yeah, right. just barely. with super high levels of chaos, anxiety and uncertainty.

the government should be involved in schooling and childcare.

at least until the workday ends.

my typign is a little crazed, i concede that. i’ll try harder.

[scaredyclassic]

there is a lack of good quality child care. At least there was back in 1995-1999 when it was a big issue for me.

without a stay at home parent, child care is a big issue.

Why do other people have to “solve my problems”. heck, why have any comunity, govt or so forth at all. Why shouldn’t I educate them all as well? Why depend on this whole “public school” thing. if I cannot pay for private tutors, I shouldn’t have reproduced.

“put ’em” is exactly how you’d feel if you were working like a dog and your wife was working and you were barely scraping by and you got thrown out of your day care with no place to turn and needing to get to work next week.

i suspect you are much wealthier than me when you ahd kids.

i suspect when people are actually scrambling for day care they view the situation 100% differently. I

I see your point-of-view; ‘i created the kids, i shoudl fend for them.” But in reality, what dopey men and women tell each other when they’re pondering having children is “oh honey it’ll work out, everyone makes it through”.

yeah, right. just barely. with super high levels of chaos, anxiety and uncertainty.

the government should be involved in schooling and childcare.

at least until the workday ends.

my typign is a little crazed, i concede that. i’ll try harder.

[scaredyclassic]

also, i am more than happy to pay for it. What i remember is having money to pay for day care and literally not being able to find anything i felt comfrotable with, without a month or two waiting list and not a month or two of vacation time. hell i would have borrowed money, thousands to bribe my kid a spot!

[scaredyclassic]

also, i am more than happy to pay for it. What i remember is having money to pay for day care and literally not being able to find anything i felt comfrotable with, without a month or two waiting list and not a month or two of vacation time. hell i would have borrowed money, thousands to bribe my kid a spot!

[scaredyclassic]

also, i am more than happy to pay for it. What i remember is having money to pay for day care and literally not being able to find anything i felt comfrotable with, without a month or two waiting list and not a month or two of vacation time. hell i would have borrowed money, thousands to bribe my kid a spot!

[scaredyclassic]

also, i am more than happy to pay for it. What i remember is having money to pay for day care and literally not being able to find anything i felt comfrotable with, without a month or two waiting list and not a month or two of vacation time. hell i would have borrowed money, thousands to bribe my kid a spot!

[scaredyclassic]

also, i am more than happy to pay for it. What i remember is having money to pay for day care and literally not being able to find anything i felt comfrotable with, without a month or two waiting list and not a month or two of vacation time. hell i would have borrowed money, thousands to bribe my kid a spot!

[scaredyclassic]

“if i didn’t have the resources to have a kid, I wouldn’t have one”.

huh.

very fiscally prudent of you.

not reality for america though. everyone buys kids on credit! almost all young people start out basically broke, struggling, just piecing it together. the woman or dude can stay home, and that relieves alot, but not all of the headaches.

wife staying home simply wasn’t an option in that time frame. Not money -wise, just professionally, she just wasn’t going to do it.

man i don’t even need day care right now and just thinking about my experience is getting me stressed out.

i always tell younger couples, people, start getting on wait lists way before you think about getting pregnant. IN fact, expect complete chaos unless you ahve strong family support, lost of cash or can swing a sta-at-home spouse. I always tell them without that, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE OK and children under these kind of circumstances may trigger extreme marital strife or even possibly divorce.

Do they listen to me? No. They think i’m nuts!

They’ll see… they’ll see….

[scaredyclassic]

“if i didn’t have the resources to have a kid, I wouldn’t have one”.

huh.

very fiscally prudent of you.

not reality for america though. everyone buys kids on credit! almost all young people start out basically broke, struggling, just piecing it together. the woman or dude can stay home, and that relieves alot, but not all of the headaches.

wife staying home simply wasn’t an option in that time frame. Not money -wise, just professionally, she just wasn’t going to do it.

man i don’t even need day care right now and just thinking about my experience is getting me stressed out.

i always tell younger couples, people, start getting on wait lists way before you think about getting pregnant. IN fact, expect complete chaos unless you ahve strong family support, lost of cash or can swing a sta-at-home spouse. I always tell them without that, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE OK and children under these kind of circumstances may trigger extreme marital strife or even possibly divorce.

Do they listen to me? No. They think i’m nuts!

They’ll see… they’ll see….

[scaredyclassic]

“if i didn’t have the resources to have a kid, I wouldn’t have one”.

huh.

very fiscally prudent of you.

not reality for america though. everyone buys kids on credit! almost all young people start out basically broke, struggling, just piecing it together. the woman or dude can stay home, and that relieves alot, but not all of the headaches.

wife staying home simply wasn’t an option in that time frame. Not money -wise, just professionally, she just wasn’t going to do it.

man i don’t even need day care right now and just thinking about my experience is getting me stressed out.

i always tell younger couples, people, start getting on wait lists way before you think about getting pregnant. IN fact, expect complete chaos unless you ahve strong family support, lost of cash or can swing a sta-at-home spouse. I always tell them without that, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE OK and children under these kind of circumstances may trigger extreme marital strife or even possibly divorce.

Do they listen to me? No. They think i’m nuts!

They’ll see… they’ll see….

[scaredyclassic]

“if i didn’t have the resources to have a kid, I wouldn’t have one”.

huh.

very fiscally prudent of you.

not reality for america though. everyone buys kids on credit! almost all young people start out basically broke, struggling, just piecing it together. the woman or dude can stay home, and that relieves alot, but not all of the headaches.

wife staying home simply wasn’t an option in that time frame. Not money -wise, just professionally, she just wasn’t going to do it.

man i don’t even need day care right now and just thinking about my experience is getting me stressed out.

i always tell younger couples, people, start getting on wait lists way before you think about getting pregnant. IN fact, expect complete chaos unless you ahve strong family support, lost of cash or can swing a sta-at-home spouse. I always tell them without that, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE OK and children under these kind of circumstances may trigger extreme marital strife or even possibly divorce.

Do they listen to me? No. They think i’m nuts!

They’ll see… they’ll see….

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