Lord of the Flies

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=pri_dk]Allan,

It’s not that intelligent and well-read are bad things. I admire that, sincerely.

But facts alone aren’t enough. What is lacking in so much of the discussion of today’s events is sense of proportion. In the past ten generations or so we’ve had:

– A Civil War that literally split the nation in two, and killed hundreds of thousands.

– Two world wars that killed millions and devastated Europe along with a few other parts of the world.

– A flu epidemic that killed more people than one of the world wars.

– A (real) depression where thousands starved.

– A Cold war that literally could have destroyed the planet.

And these are just a few tidbits from the American part of the story.

And yet there is a “this is the big one” tone to so much of what we are reading here and elsewhere.

“Lord of the Flies?” Hard to take it seriously.[/quote]

Pri: So you know, my comment was tongue-in-cheek. Also, I don’t think “this is the big one” by any stretch of the imagination. However, I do believe we are seeing a fairly epic shift in the economies and economics of the Western world, and one that will have far reaching consequences.

These little assholes running around London are not political protesters, they’re cosseted, entitled welfare state babies and we’re seeing and participating in the end of post-WWII nanny state policies.

[Arraya]

[quote=eavesdropper]

It’s funny: Here on Piggs, there have been, of late, a number of links to articles about the lack of jobs for new college graduates. Time-permitting, I try to make a point of reading through the readers’ comments at the article’s close. I am shocked by the intensity of the accusations made by 22, 24, and 28 year-old recent grads, but not by the accusations themselves. Virtually every one states that, as far as they are concerned, they can’t get jobs because of the economy that the baby boomers messed up. There are obvious flaws in that line of reasoning, but not to people who were raised to believe that they were “special” without having to provide evidence, who were provided with everything they wanted, or who learned to manipulate when they did not, whose parents encouraged them to cheat under the guise of attaining academic excellence, and who forced school administrations to “adjust” their subpar grades, and who attended law school because they were guaranteed to get a $160K/yr job when they graduated. These people are totally self-focused and concerned solely with their own wants and needs. That, in itself, does not bode well for those of us over the age of 50, who screwed up the economy for them. Our goose is cooked.
[/quote]

Well, a few things.

1) the economy is screwed, though, some things were done to exacerbate this while the baby boomers will reaping the benefits of it’s “Shorttermism” – though it looks to me more a system at the end of it’s socio-evolutionary sequence. Which is an entirely different and very long subject. Long term thinking is not in Capitalism’s DNA and really a evolutionary developed part of the human brain. Something going forward we are going to HAVE to think about to maintain social sanity.

2) I agree with you assessment of the younger generation. They should not be complaining they should be finding ways to understand the world they live in and coming up with solutions instead of demanding lots of money for themselves. They are caught up in their “Americaness”, which is a a self-centered entitlement mentality. Now, entitlement mentalities have both a good and bad side, we are witnessing the bad side( I think it is good to think I deserve to live in a healthy society – I’m just weird that way) – and I know my culture bashing rubs people the wrong way. But, for Americans, self-examination is not just rare, it is nonexistent, which one source of our condition. Missing from our national character is love of the common good, and our collective civic responsibility toward one another. But if we acknowledged collective responsibilities to the individual members of our society, then we would have to deal with the issue of class in this country. Better to medicate an entire nation, I guess. In america you are not to think for yourself, but OF yourself.

I agree, the younger generation has to snap out of their cultivated self-centeredness and broaden their view. This next phase of our development is how to make society better – which won’t be linked to, how to make as much money as possible. Which is going to be a very uncomfortable transition, which we will fight tooth and nail.

Interestingly, the US and UK mirror each other is social health decline. They are a much more exaggerated version of similar trends in the rest of mature industrial democracies.

So, what’s going on – is widespread, it’s not exclusive to America.

[Arraya]

[quote=eavesdropper]

It’s funny: Here on Piggs, there have been, of late, a number of links to articles about the lack of jobs for new college graduates. Time-permitting, I try to make a point of reading through the readers’ comments at the article’s close. I am shocked by the intensity of the accusations made by 22, 24, and 28 year-old recent grads, but not by the accusations themselves. Virtually every one states that, as far as they are concerned, they can’t get jobs because of the economy that the baby boomers messed up. There are obvious flaws in that line of reasoning, but not to people who were raised to believe that they were “special” without having to provide evidence, who were provided with everything they wanted, or who learned to manipulate when they did not, whose parents encouraged them to cheat under the guise of attaining academic excellence, and who forced school administrations to “adjust” their subpar grades, and who attended law school because they were guaranteed to get a $160K/yr job when they graduated. These people are totally self-focused and concerned solely with their own wants and needs. That, in itself, does not bode well for those of us over the age of 50, who screwed up the economy for them. Our goose is cooked.
[/quote]

Well, a few things.

1) the economy is screwed, though, some things were done to exacerbate this while the baby boomers will reaping the benefits of it’s “Shorttermism” – though it looks to me more a system at the end of it’s socio-evolutionary sequence. Which is an entirely different and very long subject. Long term thinking is not in Capitalism’s DNA and really a evolutionary developed part of the human brain. Something going forward we are going to HAVE to think about to maintain social sanity.

2) I agree with you assessment of the younger generation. They should not be complaining they should be finding ways to understand the world they live in and coming up with solutions instead of demanding lots of money for themselves. They are caught up in their “Americaness”, which is a a self-centered entitlement mentality. Now, entitlement mentalities have both a good and bad side, we are witnessing the bad side( I think it is good to think I deserve to live in a healthy society – I’m just weird that way) – and I know my culture bashing rubs people the wrong way. But, for Americans, self-examination is not just rare, it is nonexistent, which one source of our condition. Missing from our national character is love of the common good, and our collective civic responsibility toward one another. But if we acknowledged collective responsibilities to the individual members of our society, then we would have to deal with the issue of class in this country. Better to medicate an entire nation, I guess. In america you are not to think for yourself, but OF yourself.

I agree, the younger generation has to snap out of their cultivated self-centeredness and broaden their view. This next phase of our development is how to make society better – which won’t be linked to, how to make as much money as possible. Which is going to be a very uncomfortable transition, which we will fight tooth and nail.

Interestingly, the US and UK mirror each other is social health decline. They are a much more exaggerated version of similar trends in the rest of mature industrial democracies.

So, what’s going on – is widespread, it’s not exclusive to America.

[Arraya]

[quote=eavesdropper]

It’s funny: Here on Piggs, there have been, of late, a number of links to articles about the lack of jobs for new college graduates. Time-permitting, I try to make a point of reading through the readers’ comments at the article’s close. I am shocked by the intensity of the accusations made by 22, 24, and 28 year-old recent grads, but not by the accusations themselves. Virtually every one states that, as far as they are concerned, they can’t get jobs because of the economy that the baby boomers messed up. There are obvious flaws in that line of reasoning, but not to people who were raised to believe that they were “special” without having to provide evidence, who were provided with everything they wanted, or who learned to manipulate when they did not, whose parents encouraged them to cheat under the guise of attaining academic excellence, and who forced school administrations to “adjust” their subpar grades, and who attended law school because they were guaranteed to get a $160K/yr job when they graduated. These people are totally self-focused and concerned solely with their own wants and needs. That, in itself, does not bode well for those of us over the age of 50, who screwed up the economy for them. Our goose is cooked.
[/quote]

Well, a few things.

1) the economy is screwed, though, some things were done to exacerbate this while the baby boomers will reaping the benefits of it’s “Shorttermism” – though it looks to me more a system at the end of it’s socio-evolutionary sequence. Which is an entirely different and very long subject. Long term thinking is not in Capitalism’s DNA and really a evolutionary developed part of the human brain. Something going forward we are going to HAVE to think about to maintain social sanity.

2) I agree with you assessment of the younger generation. They should not be complaining they should be finding ways to understand the world they live in and coming up with solutions instead of demanding lots of money for themselves. They are caught up in their “Americaness”, which is a a self-centered entitlement mentality. Now, entitlement mentalities have both a good and bad side, we are witnessing the bad side( I think it is good to think I deserve to live in a healthy society – I’m just weird that way) – and I know my culture bashing rubs people the wrong way. But, for Americans, self-examination is not just rare, it is nonexistent, which one source of our condition. Missing from our national character is love of the common good, and our collective civic responsibility toward one another. But if we acknowledged collective responsibilities to the individual members of our society, then we would have to deal with the issue of class in this country. Better to medicate an entire nation, I guess. In america you are not to think for yourself, but OF yourself.

I agree, the younger generation has to snap out of their cultivated self-centeredness and broaden their view. This next phase of our development is how to make society better – which won’t be linked to, how to make as much money as possible. Which is going to be a very uncomfortable transition, which we will fight tooth and nail.

Interestingly, the US and UK mirror each other is social health decline. They are a much more exaggerated version of similar trends in the rest of mature industrial democracies.

So, what’s going on – is widespread, it’s not exclusive to America.

[Arraya]

[quote=eavesdropper]

It’s funny: Here on Piggs, there have been, of late, a number of links to articles about the lack of jobs for new college graduates. Time-permitting, I try to make a point of reading through the readers’ comments at the article’s close. I am shocked by the intensity of the accusations made by 22, 24, and 28 year-old recent grads, but not by the accusations themselves. Virtually every one states that, as far as they are concerned, they can’t get jobs because of the economy that the baby boomers messed up. There are obvious flaws in that line of reasoning, but not to people who were raised to believe that they were “special” without having to provide evidence, who were provided with everything they wanted, or who learned to manipulate when they did not, whose parents encouraged them to cheat under the guise of attaining academic excellence, and who forced school administrations to “adjust” their subpar grades, and who attended law school because they were guaranteed to get a $160K/yr job when they graduated. These people are totally self-focused and concerned solely with their own wants and needs. That, in itself, does not bode well for those of us over the age of 50, who screwed up the economy for them. Our goose is cooked.
[/quote]

Well, a few things.

1) the economy is screwed, though, some things were done to exacerbate this while the baby boomers will reaping the benefits of it’s “Shorttermism” – though it looks to me more a system at the end of it’s socio-evolutionary sequence. Which is an entirely different and very long subject. Long term thinking is not in Capitalism’s DNA and really a evolutionary developed part of the human brain. Something going forward we are going to HAVE to think about to maintain social sanity.

2) I agree with you assessment of the younger generation. They should not be complaining they should be finding ways to understand the world they live in and coming up with solutions instead of demanding lots of money for themselves. They are caught up in their “Americaness”, which is a a self-centered entitlement mentality. Now, entitlement mentalities have both a good and bad side, we are witnessing the bad side( I think it is good to think I deserve to live in a healthy society – I’m just weird that way) – and I know my culture bashing rubs people the wrong way. But, for Americans, self-examination is not just rare, it is nonexistent, which one source of our condition. Missing from our national character is love of the common good, and our collective civic responsibility toward one another. But if we acknowledged collective responsibilities to the individual members of our society, then we would have to deal with the issue of class in this country. Better to medicate an entire nation, I guess. In america you are not to think for yourself, but OF yourself.

I agree, the younger generation has to snap out of their cultivated self-centeredness and broaden their view. This next phase of our development is how to make society better – which won’t be linked to, how to make as much money as possible. Which is going to be a very uncomfortable transition, which we will fight tooth and nail.

Interestingly, the US and UK mirror each other is social health decline. They are a much more exaggerated version of similar trends in the rest of mature industrial democracies.

So, what’s going on – is widespread, it’s not exclusive to America.

[Arraya]

[quote=eavesdropper]

It’s funny: Here on Piggs, there have been, of late, a number of links to articles about the lack of jobs for new college graduates. Time-permitting, I try to make a point of reading through the readers’ comments at the article’s close. I am shocked by the intensity of the accusations made by 22, 24, and 28 year-old recent grads, but not by the accusations themselves. Virtually every one states that, as far as they are concerned, they can’t get jobs because of the economy that the baby boomers messed up. There are obvious flaws in that line of reasoning, but not to people who were raised to believe that they were “special” without having to provide evidence, who were provided with everything they wanted, or who learned to manipulate when they did not, whose parents encouraged them to cheat under the guise of attaining academic excellence, and who forced school administrations to “adjust” their subpar grades, and who attended law school because they were guaranteed to get a $160K/yr job when they graduated. These people are totally self-focused and concerned solely with their own wants and needs. That, in itself, does not bode well for those of us over the age of 50, who screwed up the economy for them. Our goose is cooked.
[/quote]

Well, a few things.

1) the economy is screwed, though, some things were done to exacerbate this while the baby boomers will reaping the benefits of it’s “Shorttermism” – though it looks to me more a system at the end of it’s socio-evolutionary sequence. Which is an entirely different and very long subject. Long term thinking is not in Capitalism’s DNA and really a evolutionary developed part of the human brain. Something going forward we are going to HAVE to think about to maintain social sanity.

2) I agree with you assessment of the younger generation. They should not be complaining they should be finding ways to understand the world they live in and coming up with solutions instead of demanding lots of money for themselves. They are caught up in their “Americaness”, which is a a self-centered entitlement mentality. Now, entitlement mentalities have both a good and bad side, we are witnessing the bad side( I think it is good to think I deserve to live in a healthy society – I’m just weird that way) – and I know my culture bashing rubs people the wrong way. But, for Americans, self-examination is not just rare, it is nonexistent, which one source of our condition. Missing from our national character is love of the common good, and our collective civic responsibility toward one another. But if we acknowledged collective responsibilities to the individual members of our society, then we would have to deal with the issue of class in this country. Better to medicate an entire nation, I guess. In america you are not to think for yourself, but OF yourself.

I agree, the younger generation has to snap out of their cultivated self-centeredness and broaden their view. This next phase of our development is how to make society better – which won’t be linked to, how to make as much money as possible. Which is going to be a very uncomfortable transition, which we will fight tooth and nail.

Interestingly, the US and UK mirror each other is social health decline. They are a much more exaggerated version of similar trends in the rest of mature industrial democracies.

So, what’s going on – is widespread, it’s not exclusive to America.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]These little assholes running around London are not political protesters, they’re cosseted, entitled welfare state babies and we’re seeing and participating in the end of post-WWII nanny state policies.[/quote]

I agree with your assessment of the protesters, but I don’t think this is the end of anything. The nanny-state policies will go on, in some form, forever. The size of the programs will just grow and shrink with economic cycles and political fashion.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]These little assholes running around London are not political protesters, they’re cosseted, entitled welfare state babies and we’re seeing and participating in the end of post-WWII nanny state policies.[/quote]

I agree with your assessment of the protesters, but I don’t think this is the end of anything. The nanny-state policies will go on, in some form, forever. The size of the programs will just grow and shrink with economic cycles and political fashion.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]These little assholes running around London are not political protesters, they’re cosseted, entitled welfare state babies and we’re seeing and participating in the end of post-WWII nanny state policies.[/quote]

I agree with your assessment of the protesters, but I don’t think this is the end of anything. The nanny-state policies will go on, in some form, forever. The size of the programs will just grow and shrink with economic cycles and political fashion.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]These little assholes running around London are not political protesters, they’re cosseted, entitled welfare state babies and we’re seeing and participating in the end of post-WWII nanny state policies.[/quote]

I agree with your assessment of the protesters, but I don’t think this is the end of anything. The nanny-state policies will go on, in some form, forever. The size of the programs will just grow and shrink with economic cycles and political fashion.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]These little assholes running around London are not political protesters, they’re cosseted, entitled welfare state babies and we’re seeing and participating in the end of post-WWII nanny state policies.[/quote]

I agree with your assessment of the protesters, but I don’t think this is the end of anything. The nanny-state policies will go on, in some form, forever. The size of the programs will just grow and shrink with economic cycles and political fashion.

[Arraya]

[quote=eavesdropper][
But here in the states, the undesirable traits mentioned by Mr. Hastings are readily apparent in increasingly large numbers of middle class, and even well-off children. U.S. children in all socioeconomic classes are spoiled, abusive toward everyone including adults and the elderly, have an exaggerated sense that they are treated unfairly, believe themselves deserving of unearned praise, recognition, and privileges, don’t believe that rules apply to them, and aren’t studying and learning at anything close to an age-appropriate level. More and more hate crimes of a violent nature are being perpetrated by teenagers, and even preteens, both male and female..[/quote]

Looks like the non-nanny state, middle class came in an joined the party. Or maybe even incited and exacerbated a volatile situation for the excitement of a violent shopping spree. Must be that liberal dogma at work. Years of coddling with entitlements coupled with the mind numbing brainwashing of multi-culturalism and political correctness caused these outbursts. The answer is the opposite of liberal dogma, which would be the jockey’s whip of privation coupled with the jackboot of state force, that needs to be employed to domesticate the masses. haha

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/08/11/ukriots.accused/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Before they started appearing in court, most people assumed London’s rioters and looters were unemployed youths with no hope and no future.
So there was much surprise when details of the accused began to emerge, and they included some from wealthy backgrounds or with good jobs.
Those passing through London’s courtrooms on Tuesday and Wednesday — some courts sat overnight to cope with the numbers — have included a teaching assistant, a lifeguard, a postman, a chef, a charity worker, a millionaire’s daughter and an 11-year-old boy, newspapers reported.
The tabloid Sun newspaper wrote in its opinion page on Thursday of the “sick” society described by Prime Minister David Cameron: “The sickness starts on welfare-addicted estates where feckless parents let children run wild.”
But its front-page headline told a different story about the accused: “Lifeguard, postman, hairdresser, teacher, millionaire’s daughter, chef and schoolboy, 11.”
The Daily Mail reported: “While the trouble has been largely blamed on feral teenagers, many of those paraded before the courts yesterday led apparently respectable lives.”
The upmarket Daily Telegraph devoted its page three to the case of Laura Johnson, the 19-year-old daughter of a company director who pleaded not guilty to stealing £5,000 ($8,000) of electrical goods, under the headline: “Girl who has it all is accused of theft.”
The newspaper said she lived in a converted farmhouse in the leafy London suburb of Orpington, Kent, with extensive grounds and a tennis court, had studied at one of the best-performing state schools in the country and now attends the University of Exeter.
Reporter Andrew Gilligan wrote in the Daily Telegraph: “Here in court, as David Cameron condemned the ‘sickness’ in parts of British society, we saw clearly, for the first time, the face of the riot: stripped of its hoods and masks, dressed in white prison T-shirts and handcuffed to burly security guards.
“It was rather different from the one we had been expecting.”
He added of the defendants at Highbury Magistrates Court in north London: “Most were teenagers or in their early twenties, but a surprising number were older.
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”

[Arraya]

[quote=eavesdropper][
But here in the states, the undesirable traits mentioned by Mr. Hastings are readily apparent in increasingly large numbers of middle class, and even well-off children. U.S. children in all socioeconomic classes are spoiled, abusive toward everyone including adults and the elderly, have an exaggerated sense that they are treated unfairly, believe themselves deserving of unearned praise, recognition, and privileges, don’t believe that rules apply to them, and aren’t studying and learning at anything close to an age-appropriate level. More and more hate crimes of a violent nature are being perpetrated by teenagers, and even preteens, both male and female..[/quote]

Looks like the non-nanny state, middle class came in an joined the party. Or maybe even incited and exacerbated a volatile situation for the excitement of a violent shopping spree. Must be that liberal dogma at work. Years of coddling with entitlements coupled with the mind numbing brainwashing of multi-culturalism and political correctness caused these outbursts. The answer is the opposite of liberal dogma, which would be the jockey’s whip of privation coupled with the jackboot of state force, that needs to be employed to domesticate the masses. haha

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/08/11/ukriots.accused/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Before they started appearing in court, most people assumed London’s rioters and looters were unemployed youths with no hope and no future.
So there was much surprise when details of the accused began to emerge, and they included some from wealthy backgrounds or with good jobs.
Those passing through London’s courtrooms on Tuesday and Wednesday — some courts sat overnight to cope with the numbers — have included a teaching assistant, a lifeguard, a postman, a chef, a charity worker, a millionaire’s daughter and an 11-year-old boy, newspapers reported.
The tabloid Sun newspaper wrote in its opinion page on Thursday of the “sick” society described by Prime Minister David Cameron: “The sickness starts on welfare-addicted estates where feckless parents let children run wild.”
But its front-page headline told a different story about the accused: “Lifeguard, postman, hairdresser, teacher, millionaire’s daughter, chef and schoolboy, 11.”
The Daily Mail reported: “While the trouble has been largely blamed on feral teenagers, many of those paraded before the courts yesterday led apparently respectable lives.”
The upmarket Daily Telegraph devoted its page three to the case of Laura Johnson, the 19-year-old daughter of a company director who pleaded not guilty to stealing £5,000 ($8,000) of electrical goods, under the headline: “Girl who has it all is accused of theft.”
The newspaper said she lived in a converted farmhouse in the leafy London suburb of Orpington, Kent, with extensive grounds and a tennis court, had studied at one of the best-performing state schools in the country and now attends the University of Exeter.
Reporter Andrew Gilligan wrote in the Daily Telegraph: “Here in court, as David Cameron condemned the ‘sickness’ in parts of British society, we saw clearly, for the first time, the face of the riot: stripped of its hoods and masks, dressed in white prison T-shirts and handcuffed to burly security guards.
“It was rather different from the one we had been expecting.”
He added of the defendants at Highbury Magistrates Court in north London: “Most were teenagers or in their early twenties, but a surprising number were older.
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”

[Arraya]

[quote=eavesdropper][
But here in the states, the undesirable traits mentioned by Mr. Hastings are readily apparent in increasingly large numbers of middle class, and even well-off children. U.S. children in all socioeconomic classes are spoiled, abusive toward everyone including adults and the elderly, have an exaggerated sense that they are treated unfairly, believe themselves deserving of unearned praise, recognition, and privileges, don’t believe that rules apply to them, and aren’t studying and learning at anything close to an age-appropriate level. More and more hate crimes of a violent nature are being perpetrated by teenagers, and even preteens, both male and female..[/quote]

Looks like the non-nanny state, middle class came in an joined the party. Or maybe even incited and exacerbated a volatile situation for the excitement of a violent shopping spree. Must be that liberal dogma at work. Years of coddling with entitlements coupled with the mind numbing brainwashing of multi-culturalism and political correctness caused these outbursts. The answer is the opposite of liberal dogma, which would be the jockey’s whip of privation coupled with the jackboot of state force, that needs to be employed to domesticate the masses. haha

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/08/11/ukriots.accused/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Before they started appearing in court, most people assumed London’s rioters and looters were unemployed youths with no hope and no future.
So there was much surprise when details of the accused began to emerge, and they included some from wealthy backgrounds or with good jobs.
Those passing through London’s courtrooms on Tuesday and Wednesday — some courts sat overnight to cope with the numbers — have included a teaching assistant, a lifeguard, a postman, a chef, a charity worker, a millionaire’s daughter and an 11-year-old boy, newspapers reported.
The tabloid Sun newspaper wrote in its opinion page on Thursday of the “sick” society described by Prime Minister David Cameron: “The sickness starts on welfare-addicted estates where feckless parents let children run wild.”
But its front-page headline told a different story about the accused: “Lifeguard, postman, hairdresser, teacher, millionaire’s daughter, chef and schoolboy, 11.”
The Daily Mail reported: “While the trouble has been largely blamed on feral teenagers, many of those paraded before the courts yesterday led apparently respectable lives.”
The upmarket Daily Telegraph devoted its page three to the case of Laura Johnson, the 19-year-old daughter of a company director who pleaded not guilty to stealing £5,000 ($8,000) of electrical goods, under the headline: “Girl who has it all is accused of theft.”
The newspaper said she lived in a converted farmhouse in the leafy London suburb of Orpington, Kent, with extensive grounds and a tennis court, had studied at one of the best-performing state schools in the country and now attends the University of Exeter.
Reporter Andrew Gilligan wrote in the Daily Telegraph: “Here in court, as David Cameron condemned the ‘sickness’ in parts of British society, we saw clearly, for the first time, the face of the riot: stripped of its hoods and masks, dressed in white prison T-shirts and handcuffed to burly security guards.
“It was rather different from the one we had been expecting.”
He added of the defendants at Highbury Magistrates Court in north London: “Most were teenagers or in their early twenties, but a surprising number were older.
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”

[Arraya]

[quote=eavesdropper][
But here in the states, the undesirable traits mentioned by Mr. Hastings are readily apparent in increasingly large numbers of middle class, and even well-off children. U.S. children in all socioeconomic classes are spoiled, abusive toward everyone including adults and the elderly, have an exaggerated sense that they are treated unfairly, believe themselves deserving of unearned praise, recognition, and privileges, don’t believe that rules apply to them, and aren’t studying and learning at anything close to an age-appropriate level. More and more hate crimes of a violent nature are being perpetrated by teenagers, and even preteens, both male and female..[/quote]

Looks like the non-nanny state, middle class came in an joined the party. Or maybe even incited and exacerbated a volatile situation for the excitement of a violent shopping spree. Must be that liberal dogma at work. Years of coddling with entitlements coupled with the mind numbing brainwashing of multi-culturalism and political correctness caused these outbursts. The answer is the opposite of liberal dogma, which would be the jockey’s whip of privation coupled with the jackboot of state force, that needs to be employed to domesticate the masses. haha

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/08/11/ukriots.accused/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Before they started appearing in court, most people assumed London’s rioters and looters were unemployed youths with no hope and no future.
So there was much surprise when details of the accused began to emerge, and they included some from wealthy backgrounds or with good jobs.
Those passing through London’s courtrooms on Tuesday and Wednesday — some courts sat overnight to cope with the numbers — have included a teaching assistant, a lifeguard, a postman, a chef, a charity worker, a millionaire’s daughter and an 11-year-old boy, newspapers reported.
The tabloid Sun newspaper wrote in its opinion page on Thursday of the “sick” society described by Prime Minister David Cameron: “The sickness starts on welfare-addicted estates where feckless parents let children run wild.”
But its front-page headline told a different story about the accused: “Lifeguard, postman, hairdresser, teacher, millionaire’s daughter, chef and schoolboy, 11.”
The Daily Mail reported: “While the trouble has been largely blamed on feral teenagers, many of those paraded before the courts yesterday led apparently respectable lives.”
The upmarket Daily Telegraph devoted its page three to the case of Laura Johnson, the 19-year-old daughter of a company director who pleaded not guilty to stealing £5,000 ($8,000) of electrical goods, under the headline: “Girl who has it all is accused of theft.”
The newspaper said she lived in a converted farmhouse in the leafy London suburb of Orpington, Kent, with extensive grounds and a tennis court, had studied at one of the best-performing state schools in the country and now attends the University of Exeter.
Reporter Andrew Gilligan wrote in the Daily Telegraph: “Here in court, as David Cameron condemned the ‘sickness’ in parts of British society, we saw clearly, for the first time, the face of the riot: stripped of its hoods and masks, dressed in white prison T-shirts and handcuffed to burly security guards.
“It was rather different from the one we had been expecting.”
He added of the defendants at Highbury Magistrates Court in north London: “Most were teenagers or in their early twenties, but a surprising number were older.
“Most interestingly of all, they were predominantly white, and many had jobs.”

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