Is San Diego overpriced or is it just corrected?

[mixxalot]

Professional retired wealthy ex-athletes and actors

Are usually not too bright when it comes to level and desire to possess culture and education. Granted, there are exceptions but by and large these folks won the genetic lottery and were in the right place at the right time to get lucky with their wealth. Yes, I am sure they all did some hard work along the way but pure luck is more like it.

I am in San Diego only because when I was layed off in 2002 from a software company in the bay area, there were few jobs left after the dot coms busted. I found work in San Diego for an investment bank in technology. The market improved and I jumped ship for greener pastures. I moved back to Sacramento in 2005 for a brief period and after a while disliked it even though I grew up in Sacramento and have a lot of friends and family there. So.. I moved back to San Diego! For me, I work a lot anyways and having great weather and easy access to the beaches is relaxing and better than pure culture. I can always hope a flight to SF or NYC for the weekend if I need opera or broadway.

My only beef- traffic is way worse; and, housing is not affordable for normal professional. Hence, I am seriously looking at places like Texas and Arkansas for a home purchase. They are not as nice weatherwise as San Diego but fit my budget and pocketbook a lot easier. I signed a 15 month lease so I have some time to wait and see what actually happens to the San Diego real estate market.

Hopefully it keep go down and I can buy a small 2 bedroom 2 bath townhome with a real 2 car garage. Ideally, I would like to buy a duplex and rent the other side out to a good friend but duplexes are few and far between here in San Diego and VERY EXPENSIVE.

[sdrealtor]

If I published the name of the actor (which I wont) you would be very surprised. Not your handsome leading man but rather a cerebral, cultured guy who has played some amazing roles.

BTW, if you didnt like Sacto when you returned why would you even consider TX or Ark?

[sdrealtor]

If I published the name of the actor (which I wont) you would be very surprised. Not your handsome leading man but rather a cerebral, cultured guy who has played some amazing roles.

BTW, if you didnt like Sacto when you returned why would you even consider TX or Ark?

[sdrealtor]

If I published the name of the actor (which I wont) you would be very surprised. Not your handsome leading man but rather a cerebral, cultured guy who has played some amazing roles.

BTW, if you didnt like Sacto when you returned why would you even consider TX or Ark?

[seattle-relo]

There is no “perfect” city – big or small. I lived in the Chicago area for the first 28 years of my life and then lived in Seattle for another 7 before moving to San Diego. Chicago is a great city for culture, but it certainly has it’s downsides, including awful weather, crime, and suburban sprawl. Seattle is very hip, polite, but not very friendly, with great outdoor beauty. But try to spend 9 months out of the year with gloomy weather, for some it can be just awful. Heck, I’ve heard native San Diegans complaining about a couple of days without sun, try 200. I agree that San Diego is a little boring in terms of culture and nightlife. The downtown area is pretty disappointing, but at the same time I apprechiate the great schools, family friendly, warm neighbors that live around me in boring old Rancho Bernardo. On Saturday I went shopping(window shopping) with some girlfriends in Beverly Hills. It was exciting, but once I got home, it sure was nice to be back in boring, but very comfortable San Diego. Because home prices are not at all in line with salaries, I am wondering what (if any) types of incentives the city has done to try to attract bigger companies that can offer bigger salaries. Some people actually like warm weather, palm trees,and the beach, so I think that San Diego could have potential if they positioned themselves better.

[seattle-relo]

There is no “perfect” city – big or small. I lived in the Chicago area for the first 28 years of my life and then lived in Seattle for another 7 before moving to San Diego. Chicago is a great city for culture, but it certainly has it’s downsides, including awful weather, crime, and suburban sprawl. Seattle is very hip, polite, but not very friendly, with great outdoor beauty. But try to spend 9 months out of the year with gloomy weather, for some it can be just awful. Heck, I’ve heard native San Diegans complaining about a couple of days without sun, try 200. I agree that San Diego is a little boring in terms of culture and nightlife. The downtown area is pretty disappointing, but at the same time I apprechiate the great schools, family friendly, warm neighbors that live around me in boring old Rancho Bernardo. On Saturday I went shopping(window shopping) with some girlfriends in Beverly Hills. It was exciting, but once I got home, it sure was nice to be back in boring, but very comfortable San Diego. Because home prices are not at all in line with salaries, I am wondering what (if any) types of incentives the city has done to try to attract bigger companies that can offer bigger salaries. Some people actually like warm weather, palm trees,and the beach, so I think that San Diego could have potential if they positioned themselves better.

[seattle-relo]

There is no “perfect” city – big or small. I lived in the Chicago area for the first 28 years of my life and then lived in Seattle for another 7 before moving to San Diego. Chicago is a great city for culture, but it certainly has it’s downsides, including awful weather, crime, and suburban sprawl. Seattle is very hip, polite, but not very friendly, with great outdoor beauty. But try to spend 9 months out of the year with gloomy weather, for some it can be just awful. Heck, I’ve heard native San Diegans complaining about a couple of days without sun, try 200. I agree that San Diego is a little boring in terms of culture and nightlife. The downtown area is pretty disappointing, but at the same time I apprechiate the great schools, family friendly, warm neighbors that live around me in boring old Rancho Bernardo. On Saturday I went shopping(window shopping) with some girlfriends in Beverly Hills. It was exciting, but once I got home, it sure was nice to be back in boring, but very comfortable San Diego. Because home prices are not at all in line with salaries, I am wondering what (if any) types of incentives the city has done to try to attract bigger companies that can offer bigger salaries. Some people actually like warm weather, palm trees,and the beach, so I think that San Diego could have potential if they positioned themselves better.

[cyphire]

Great schools?

Also – the comments about wealthy pitchers, etc. living here… So what? Actors… So What? These are the extremely tiny segment of our society which makes the huge money and has no basis in reality. For every wealthy pitcher, there are 600 somewhat struggling middle class, college educated people living cheek and jowl with non stop building, tiny lots, tiny crappy houses at McMansion prices.

The builder who built our last addition just built David Wells a home overlooking San Diego County in Cielo? (Forget which actual neighborhood but I saw the pad when the started). David Wells was just cut from the Padres (but I think they might be changing their mind.)…. Do you really think it matters if he has a job here or not? Or if he cares if he has another 5M$ house in this town or not?

You can’t base an economy on the tiny sliver of top earners who might and might not live here, just as you should exclude all the home sales on the water here in SD from the statistic pool. These areas and homes are the exception, not the rule and they just cloud the true numbers.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the water and Rancho holds up, it has more to do with who has money than the general economy.

As to NYC being a broken down Audi…. Whew! That’s only true if you make less than $250K per year. For the $250K-5M/year crowd it’s the Bentley or the Maybach. I’m guessing that you never lived there or could afford to.

I’ve heard lots of different perspectives here – and I think we might agree that everyone is correct! Where you live is about your history, your perspective, your income, and your lifestyle choices. In lots of ways this place is paradise! If I surfed, was tan, was very casual and laid back this place would be a paradise to me. If I lived here for 20 years and had tons of long term friends same deal. I still like it here, but it is shallow and empty for me – it’s my perspective based on my life. One thing for sure though… If I was more income limited, this would be among my least favorite places just as NYC would be as well.

[cyphire]

Great schools?

Also – the comments about wealthy pitchers, etc. living here… So what? Actors… So What? These are the extremely tiny segment of our society which makes the huge money and has no basis in reality. For every wealthy pitcher, there are 600 somewhat struggling middle class, college educated people living cheek and jowl with non stop building, tiny lots, tiny crappy houses at McMansion prices.

The builder who built our last addition just built David Wells a home overlooking San Diego County in Cielo? (Forget which actual neighborhood but I saw the pad when the started). David Wells was just cut from the Padres (but I think they might be changing their mind.)…. Do you really think it matters if he has a job here or not? Or if he cares if he has another 5M$ house in this town or not?

You can’t base an economy on the tiny sliver of top earners who might and might not live here, just as you should exclude all the home sales on the water here in SD from the statistic pool. These areas and homes are the exception, not the rule and they just cloud the true numbers.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the water and Rancho holds up, it has more to do with who has money than the general economy.

As to NYC being a broken down Audi…. Whew! That’s only true if you make less than $250K per year. For the $250K-5M/year crowd it’s the Bentley or the Maybach. I’m guessing that you never lived there or could afford to.

I’ve heard lots of different perspectives here – and I think we might agree that everyone is correct! Where you live is about your history, your perspective, your income, and your lifestyle choices. In lots of ways this place is paradise! If I surfed, was tan, was very casual and laid back this place would be a paradise to me. If I lived here for 20 years and had tons of long term friends same deal. I still like it here, but it is shallow and empty for me – it’s my perspective based on my life. One thing for sure though… If I was more income limited, this would be among my least favorite places just as NYC would be as well.

[cyphire]

Great schools?

Also – the comments about wealthy pitchers, etc. living here… So what? Actors… So What? These are the extremely tiny segment of our society which makes the huge money and has no basis in reality. For every wealthy pitcher, there are 600 somewhat struggling middle class, college educated people living cheek and jowl with non stop building, tiny lots, tiny crappy houses at McMansion prices.

The builder who built our last addition just built David Wells a home overlooking San Diego County in Cielo? (Forget which actual neighborhood but I saw the pad when the started). David Wells was just cut from the Padres (but I think they might be changing their mind.)…. Do you really think it matters if he has a job here or not? Or if he cares if he has another 5M$ house in this town or not?

You can’t base an economy on the tiny sliver of top earners who might and might not live here, just as you should exclude all the home sales on the water here in SD from the statistic pool. These areas and homes are the exception, not the rule and they just cloud the true numbers.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the water and Rancho holds up, it has more to do with who has money than the general economy.

As to NYC being a broken down Audi…. Whew! That’s only true if you make less than $250K per year. For the $250K-5M/year crowd it’s the Bentley or the Maybach. I’m guessing that you never lived there or could afford to.

I’ve heard lots of different perspectives here – and I think we might agree that everyone is correct! Where you live is about your history, your perspective, your income, and your lifestyle choices. In lots of ways this place is paradise! If I surfed, was tan, was very casual and laid back this place would be a paradise to me. If I lived here for 20 years and had tons of long term friends same deal. I still like it here, but it is shallow and empty for me – it’s my perspective based on my life. One thing for sure though… If I was more income limited, this would be among my least favorite places just as NYC would be as well.

[sdrealtor]

FWIW, I never said the celebrity set would impact the market good or bad. I just thought it interesting that some were buying very ordinary homes in nice tract neighborhoods.

Cy, you got halfway there in your comments that it was about personal preferences and blew it when you said this place is shallow and empty. What do you expect when you live in a house for a year or two or five? People come here expecting instant gratification and compare it to what they left. If you grew up in a nice stable environment, you will never make friends like you did when you were a kid in school growing up. It aint gonna happen. After more than a decade in my current locale, I have only begun to feel truly rooted. It takes time and if you dont have a long term view anywhere you go will feel shallow and empty.

I grew up close to where you came from and understand your perspective on NYC fully. To me this place is paradise as I love the unpretentiousness compared to back East, swimming in the ocean and would never wear shoes again if it was up to me.

[sdrealtor]

FWIW, I never said the celebrity set would impact the market good or bad. I just thought it interesting that some were buying very ordinary homes in nice tract neighborhoods.

Cy, you got halfway there in your comments that it was about personal preferences and blew it when you said this place is shallow and empty. What do you expect when you live in a house for a year or two or five? People come here expecting instant gratification and compare it to what they left. If you grew up in a nice stable environment, you will never make friends like you did when you were a kid in school growing up. It aint gonna happen. After more than a decade in my current locale, I have only begun to feel truly rooted. It takes time and if you dont have a long term view anywhere you go will feel shallow and empty.

I grew up close to where you came from and understand your perspective on NYC fully. To me this place is paradise as I love the unpretentiousness compared to back East, swimming in the ocean and would never wear shoes again if it was up to me.

[sdrealtor]

FWIW, I never said the celebrity set would impact the market good or bad. I just thought it interesting that some were buying very ordinary homes in nice tract neighborhoods.

Cy, you got halfway there in your comments that it was about personal preferences and blew it when you said this place is shallow and empty. What do you expect when you live in a house for a year or two or five? People come here expecting instant gratification and compare it to what they left. If you grew up in a nice stable environment, you will never make friends like you did when you were a kid in school growing up. It aint gonna happen. After more than a decade in my current locale, I have only begun to feel truly rooted. It takes time and if you dont have a long term view anywhere you go will feel shallow and empty.

I grew up close to where you came from and understand your perspective on NYC fully. To me this place is paradise as I love the unpretentiousness compared to back East, swimming in the ocean and would never wear shoes again if it was up to me.

[Alex_angel]

SDRealtor. Morgon Freeman is a very nice man. Didn’t realize he bought a home here.

[Alex_angel]

SDRealtor. Morgon Freeman is a very nice man. Didn’t realize he bought a home here.

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