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November 30, 2008 at 2:24 AM #310430November 30, 2008 at 2:49 AM #309964cooperthedogParticipant
[quote=peterb]Next big overhead is 10000. If it get anywhere in the high 9000’s, I’m loading up on the new triple short ETF’s out there.[/quote]
I would stay away from the 3x ETF’s for several reasons.
*Liquidity & b/a spreads
*2x funds can suffer poor correlation over weeks & months, with high volatility exacerbating this. E.g. – SDS (2x short SP500) is up 35% over the last 3 months, and the SP is down 30%, which is not even close to 2x… I imagine 3x will behave even worse.
*Broker margin can be had for < 2% currently. *3x leverage is alot, especially with high volatility and surprise events compounding overnight risk. *If you really want high leverage, and can accept catastrophic loss, then you may want to consider index futures, as these would obviate the first 3 issues. There is a professional futures trader who posts here. He would be an excellent resource to ping.November 30, 2008 at 2:49 AM #310328cooperthedogParticipant[quote=peterb]Next big overhead is 10000. If it get anywhere in the high 9000’s, I’m loading up on the new triple short ETF’s out there.[/quote]
I would stay away from the 3x ETF’s for several reasons.
*Liquidity & b/a spreads
*2x funds can suffer poor correlation over weeks & months, with high volatility exacerbating this. E.g. – SDS (2x short SP500) is up 35% over the last 3 months, and the SP is down 30%, which is not even close to 2x… I imagine 3x will behave even worse.
*Broker margin can be had for < 2% currently. *3x leverage is alot, especially with high volatility and surprise events compounding overnight risk. *If you really want high leverage, and can accept catastrophic loss, then you may want to consider index futures, as these would obviate the first 3 issues. There is a professional futures trader who posts here. He would be an excellent resource to ping.November 30, 2008 at 2:49 AM #310352cooperthedogParticipant[quote=peterb]Next big overhead is 10000. If it get anywhere in the high 9000’s, I’m loading up on the new triple short ETF’s out there.[/quote]
I would stay away from the 3x ETF’s for several reasons.
*Liquidity & b/a spreads
*2x funds can suffer poor correlation over weeks & months, with high volatility exacerbating this. E.g. – SDS (2x short SP500) is up 35% over the last 3 months, and the SP is down 30%, which is not even close to 2x… I imagine 3x will behave even worse.
*Broker margin can be had for < 2% currently. *3x leverage is alot, especially with high volatility and surprise events compounding overnight risk. *If you really want high leverage, and can accept catastrophic loss, then you may want to consider index futures, as these would obviate the first 3 issues. There is a professional futures trader who posts here. He would be an excellent resource to ping.November 30, 2008 at 2:49 AM #310371cooperthedogParticipant[quote=peterb]Next big overhead is 10000. If it get anywhere in the high 9000’s, I’m loading up on the new triple short ETF’s out there.[/quote]
I would stay away from the 3x ETF’s for several reasons.
*Liquidity & b/a spreads
*2x funds can suffer poor correlation over weeks & months, with high volatility exacerbating this. E.g. – SDS (2x short SP500) is up 35% over the last 3 months, and the SP is down 30%, which is not even close to 2x… I imagine 3x will behave even worse.
*Broker margin can be had for < 2% currently. *3x leverage is alot, especially with high volatility and surprise events compounding overnight risk. *If you really want high leverage, and can accept catastrophic loss, then you may want to consider index futures, as these would obviate the first 3 issues. There is a professional futures trader who posts here. He would be an excellent resource to ping.November 30, 2008 at 2:49 AM #310435cooperthedogParticipant[quote=peterb]Next big overhead is 10000. If it get anywhere in the high 9000’s, I’m loading up on the new triple short ETF’s out there.[/quote]
I would stay away from the 3x ETF’s for several reasons.
*Liquidity & b/a spreads
*2x funds can suffer poor correlation over weeks & months, with high volatility exacerbating this. E.g. – SDS (2x short SP500) is up 35% over the last 3 months, and the SP is down 30%, which is not even close to 2x… I imagine 3x will behave even worse.
*Broker margin can be had for < 2% currently. *3x leverage is alot, especially with high volatility and surprise events compounding overnight risk. *If you really want high leverage, and can accept catastrophic loss, then you may want to consider index futures, as these would obviate the first 3 issues. There is a professional futures trader who posts here. He would be an excellent resource to ping.November 30, 2008 at 2:50 AM #309970cooperthedogParticipantduplicate
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November 30, 2008 at 6:50 PM #310124socratttParticipantI think the confidence is all but gone in the markets. ST, I think you made a poor decision in selling gold at $810/oz, although nothing wrong with a little profit taking. I have a sneaky suspicion we are going to start seeing the markets make some heavy corrections in the near term because there are very few strings left to be pulled by our government and corporations will have little to cheer about for quite some time.
I am loading up again on silver and gold as I feel we truly are now at a time where the Fed can no longer take action to stop this crisis. What will unfold in the next 6 months will be quite alarming and my belief is gold and silver won’t see many more of these recent downward corrections.
I also believe that some gold and silver mining stocks could also have some incredible potential. It really interesting to see how the markets now react to rate cuts and infusion of funds into our failing system. It is a matter of time before unemployment hits 15% and our currency becomes worthless or at lest worth less!
Welcome home!
November 30, 2008 at 6:50 PM #310487socratttParticipantI think the confidence is all but gone in the markets. ST, I think you made a poor decision in selling gold at $810/oz, although nothing wrong with a little profit taking. I have a sneaky suspicion we are going to start seeing the markets make some heavy corrections in the near term because there are very few strings left to be pulled by our government and corporations will have little to cheer about for quite some time.
I am loading up again on silver and gold as I feel we truly are now at a time where the Fed can no longer take action to stop this crisis. What will unfold in the next 6 months will be quite alarming and my belief is gold and silver won’t see many more of these recent downward corrections.
I also believe that some gold and silver mining stocks could also have some incredible potential. It really interesting to see how the markets now react to rate cuts and infusion of funds into our failing system. It is a matter of time before unemployment hits 15% and our currency becomes worthless or at lest worth less!
Welcome home!
November 30, 2008 at 6:50 PM #310512socratttParticipantI think the confidence is all but gone in the markets. ST, I think you made a poor decision in selling gold at $810/oz, although nothing wrong with a little profit taking. I have a sneaky suspicion we are going to start seeing the markets make some heavy corrections in the near term because there are very few strings left to be pulled by our government and corporations will have little to cheer about for quite some time.
I am loading up again on silver and gold as I feel we truly are now at a time where the Fed can no longer take action to stop this crisis. What will unfold in the next 6 months will be quite alarming and my belief is gold and silver won’t see many more of these recent downward corrections.
I also believe that some gold and silver mining stocks could also have some incredible potential. It really interesting to see how the markets now react to rate cuts and infusion of funds into our failing system. It is a matter of time before unemployment hits 15% and our currency becomes worthless or at lest worth less!
Welcome home!
November 30, 2008 at 6:50 PM #310531socratttParticipantI think the confidence is all but gone in the markets. ST, I think you made a poor decision in selling gold at $810/oz, although nothing wrong with a little profit taking. I have a sneaky suspicion we are going to start seeing the markets make some heavy corrections in the near term because there are very few strings left to be pulled by our government and corporations will have little to cheer about for quite some time.
I am loading up again on silver and gold as I feel we truly are now at a time where the Fed can no longer take action to stop this crisis. What will unfold in the next 6 months will be quite alarming and my belief is gold and silver won’t see many more of these recent downward corrections.
I also believe that some gold and silver mining stocks could also have some incredible potential. It really interesting to see how the markets now react to rate cuts and infusion of funds into our failing system. It is a matter of time before unemployment hits 15% and our currency becomes worthless or at lest worth less!
Welcome home!
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