I hate ice plant.

[smshorttimer]

[quote=RichardJamesEsquire]Ice plant grows on top of it’s self and is very heavy. Old ice plant on a steep enough hill brings the whole hillside down. I “already had plans” the weekend a buddy removed several thousand pounds of it off his back patio.[/quote]

I was going to say … I know I have read/heard some anti-ice plant sentiment before, that it really isn’t the erosion fighter we assume it to be.

Here’s one story about “highway ice plant”

Highway iceplant not a favored groundcover

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/15/HOQL13ELH8.DTL

[treehugger]

Native plants are a wonderful option. I have re-vegged many sites for work and am contemplating founding a new religion to revere Distichlis spicata (salt grass) it is a low growing, spreading native grass, with an excellant root structure to assist with erosion control. Low water requirements and low maintenance make it ideal for S. California slopes and I can get it to grow in the most tempermental of soils….

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=DISP

I like to remind people that there are some absolutely wonderful natives that can flourish in your backyard gardens. Tree of life nursery has a wonderful web site

http://www.californianativeplants.com/index.php/resources/sage-advice

follow the link to see what attracts hummingbirds and you will see some great recomendations for flowers. Native plants typically have a deeper root structure (think tap roots trying to find the water table); therefore, tend to do a much better job at stabilizing slopes.

Ice plant is an incidious invasive plant brought in by Caltrans years ago to attempt to stabilize highway slopes and medians. The reality is that it does not have a very stable root structure (very shallow) and a lot of its erosive protection is in the ability for water going over the top. It is NOT considered a beneficial plant in the world of erosion control. I am hoping that California will place it on the invasive plant list and ban the sale of it (along with pampas grass) another great website to look at is the invasive plant council Don’t Plant A Pest program which list the invasive “pests” and offers some good alternatives.

http://www.cal-ipc.org/landscaping/dpp/planttypes.php?region=socal

[treehugger]

Native plants are a wonderful option. I have re-vegged many sites for work and am contemplating founding a new religion to revere Distichlis spicata (salt grass) it is a low growing, spreading native grass, with an excellant root structure to assist with erosion control. Low water requirements and low maintenance make it ideal for S. California slopes and I can get it to grow in the most tempermental of soils….

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=DISP

I like to remind people that there are some absolutely wonderful natives that can flourish in your backyard gardens. Tree of life nursery has a wonderful web site

http://www.californianativeplants.com/index.php/resources/sage-advice

follow the link to see what attracts hummingbirds and you will see some great recomendations for flowers. Native plants typically have a deeper root structure (think tap roots trying to find the water table); therefore, tend to do a much better job at stabilizing slopes.

Ice plant is an incidious invasive plant brought in by Caltrans years ago to attempt to stabilize highway slopes and medians. The reality is that it does not have a very stable root structure (very shallow) and a lot of its erosive protection is in the ability for water going over the top. It is NOT considered a beneficial plant in the world of erosion control. I am hoping that California will place it on the invasive plant list and ban the sale of it (along with pampas grass) another great website to look at is the invasive plant council Don’t Plant A Pest program which list the invasive “pests” and offers some good alternatives.

http://www.cal-ipc.org/landscaping/dpp/planttypes.php?region=socal

[treehugger]

Native plants are a wonderful option. I have re-vegged many sites for work and am contemplating founding a new religion to revere Distichlis spicata (salt grass) it is a low growing, spreading native grass, with an excellant root structure to assist with erosion control. Low water requirements and low maintenance make it ideal for S. California slopes and I can get it to grow in the most tempermental of soils….

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=DISP

I like to remind people that there are some absolutely wonderful natives that can flourish in your backyard gardens. Tree of life nursery has a wonderful web site

http://www.californianativeplants.com/index.php/resources/sage-advice

follow the link to see what attracts hummingbirds and you will see some great recomendations for flowers. Native plants typically have a deeper root structure (think tap roots trying to find the water table); therefore, tend to do a much better job at stabilizing slopes.

Ice plant is an incidious invasive plant brought in by Caltrans years ago to attempt to stabilize highway slopes and medians. The reality is that it does not have a very stable root structure (very shallow) and a lot of its erosive protection is in the ability for water going over the top. It is NOT considered a beneficial plant in the world of erosion control. I am hoping that California will place it on the invasive plant list and ban the sale of it (along with pampas grass) another great website to look at is the invasive plant council Don’t Plant A Pest program which list the invasive “pests” and offers some good alternatives.

http://www.cal-ipc.org/landscaping/dpp/planttypes.php?region=socal

[treehugger]

Native plants are a wonderful option. I have re-vegged many sites for work and am contemplating founding a new religion to revere Distichlis spicata (salt grass) it is a low growing, spreading native grass, with an excellant root structure to assist with erosion control. Low water requirements and low maintenance make it ideal for S. California slopes and I can get it to grow in the most tempermental of soils….

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=DISP

I like to remind people that there are some absolutely wonderful natives that can flourish in your backyard gardens. Tree of life nursery has a wonderful web site

http://www.californianativeplants.com/index.php/resources/sage-advice

follow the link to see what attracts hummingbirds and you will see some great recomendations for flowers. Native plants typically have a deeper root structure (think tap roots trying to find the water table); therefore, tend to do a much better job at stabilizing slopes.

Ice plant is an incidious invasive plant brought in by Caltrans years ago to attempt to stabilize highway slopes and medians. The reality is that it does not have a very stable root structure (very shallow) and a lot of its erosive protection is in the ability for water going over the top. It is NOT considered a beneficial plant in the world of erosion control. I am hoping that California will place it on the invasive plant list and ban the sale of it (along with pampas grass) another great website to look at is the invasive plant council Don’t Plant A Pest program which list the invasive “pests” and offers some good alternatives.

http://www.cal-ipc.org/landscaping/dpp/planttypes.php?region=socal

[treehugger]

Native plants are a wonderful option. I have re-vegged many sites for work and am contemplating founding a new religion to revere Distichlis spicata (salt grass) it is a low growing, spreading native grass, with an excellant root structure to assist with erosion control. Low water requirements and low maintenance make it ideal for S. California slopes and I can get it to grow in the most tempermental of soils….

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=DISP

I like to remind people that there are some absolutely wonderful natives that can flourish in your backyard gardens. Tree of life nursery has a wonderful web site

http://www.californianativeplants.com/index.php/resources/sage-advice

follow the link to see what attracts hummingbirds and you will see some great recomendations for flowers. Native plants typically have a deeper root structure (think tap roots trying to find the water table); therefore, tend to do a much better job at stabilizing slopes.

Ice plant is an incidious invasive plant brought in by Caltrans years ago to attempt to stabilize highway slopes and medians. The reality is that it does not have a very stable root structure (very shallow) and a lot of its erosive protection is in the ability for water going over the top. It is NOT considered a beneficial plant in the world of erosion control. I am hoping that California will place it on the invasive plant list and ban the sale of it (along with pampas grass) another great website to look at is the invasive plant council Don’t Plant A Pest program which list the invasive “pests” and offers some good alternatives.

http://www.cal-ipc.org/landscaping/dpp/planttypes.php?region=socal

[temeculaguy]

Okay, freeway iceplant, aka, redspike ice plant, is pretty ugly, sparse and doesn’t hold back slopes that well. But these last few posts forced me to research it, the stuff i was pimping isn’t red spike (highway ice plant), it doesn’t really look like iceplant, it is currenlty listed on the living desert website of palm springs as one of their plants in their outdoor botanical gargens so it does well in heat, uses little water and makes a good fire break. The problem with native plants is they burn like the dickens. I’m with you treehugger on the pampuas grass as being devil spawn but go easy on my pretty purple carpet. I found my purple carpet on xeriscape websites as a lawn replacement option, you can’t walk on it but you don’t have to mow it or water it much and it’s pretty. It also wasn’t on the bad plant list, it’s not the iceplant they list. I did like that list, it listed eucalyptus as evil, I wholeheartedly agree.

I’m afraid I’m not with you on the saltgrass, i took the link and looked at the pictures, it looks a lot like what I pay my kids to pick, my apologies for the senseless and ongoing murder, but at least i don’t spray them with roundup, well…not that I’ll admit to anyway. If you can outlaw pampas grass and blue gum eucalyptus, I’ll leave the salt grass alone, deal.

[temeculaguy]

Okay, freeway iceplant, aka, redspike ice plant, is pretty ugly, sparse and doesn’t hold back slopes that well. But these last few posts forced me to research it, the stuff i was pimping isn’t red spike (highway ice plant), it doesn’t really look like iceplant, it is currenlty listed on the living desert website of palm springs as one of their plants in their outdoor botanical gargens so it does well in heat, uses little water and makes a good fire break. The problem with native plants is they burn like the dickens. I’m with you treehugger on the pampuas grass as being devil spawn but go easy on my pretty purple carpet. I found my purple carpet on xeriscape websites as a lawn replacement option, you can’t walk on it but you don’t have to mow it or water it much and it’s pretty. It also wasn’t on the bad plant list, it’s not the iceplant they list. I did like that list, it listed eucalyptus as evil, I wholeheartedly agree.

I’m afraid I’m not with you on the saltgrass, i took the link and looked at the pictures, it looks a lot like what I pay my kids to pick, my apologies for the senseless and ongoing murder, but at least i don’t spray them with roundup, well…not that I’ll admit to anyway. If you can outlaw pampas grass and blue gum eucalyptus, I’ll leave the salt grass alone, deal.

[temeculaguy]

Okay, freeway iceplant, aka, redspike ice plant, is pretty ugly, sparse and doesn’t hold back slopes that well. But these last few posts forced me to research it, the stuff i was pimping isn’t red spike (highway ice plant), it doesn’t really look like iceplant, it is currenlty listed on the living desert website of palm springs as one of their plants in their outdoor botanical gargens so it does well in heat, uses little water and makes a good fire break. The problem with native plants is they burn like the dickens. I’m with you treehugger on the pampuas grass as being devil spawn but go easy on my pretty purple carpet. I found my purple carpet on xeriscape websites as a lawn replacement option, you can’t walk on it but you don’t have to mow it or water it much and it’s pretty. It also wasn’t on the bad plant list, it’s not the iceplant they list. I did like that list, it listed eucalyptus as evil, I wholeheartedly agree.

I’m afraid I’m not with you on the saltgrass, i took the link and looked at the pictures, it looks a lot like what I pay my kids to pick, my apologies for the senseless and ongoing murder, but at least i don’t spray them with roundup, well…not that I’ll admit to anyway. If you can outlaw pampas grass and blue gum eucalyptus, I’ll leave the salt grass alone, deal.

[temeculaguy]

Okay, freeway iceplant, aka, redspike ice plant, is pretty ugly, sparse and doesn’t hold back slopes that well. But these last few posts forced me to research it, the stuff i was pimping isn’t red spike (highway ice plant), it doesn’t really look like iceplant, it is currenlty listed on the living desert website of palm springs as one of their plants in their outdoor botanical gargens so it does well in heat, uses little water and makes a good fire break. The problem with native plants is they burn like the dickens. I’m with you treehugger on the pampuas grass as being devil spawn but go easy on my pretty purple carpet. I found my purple carpet on xeriscape websites as a lawn replacement option, you can’t walk on it but you don’t have to mow it or water it much and it’s pretty. It also wasn’t on the bad plant list, it’s not the iceplant they list. I did like that list, it listed eucalyptus as evil, I wholeheartedly agree.

I’m afraid I’m not with you on the saltgrass, i took the link and looked at the pictures, it looks a lot like what I pay my kids to pick, my apologies for the senseless and ongoing murder, but at least i don’t spray them with roundup, well…not that I’ll admit to anyway. If you can outlaw pampas grass and blue gum eucalyptus, I’ll leave the salt grass alone, deal.

[temeculaguy]

Okay, freeway iceplant, aka, redspike ice plant, is pretty ugly, sparse and doesn’t hold back slopes that well. But these last few posts forced me to research it, the stuff i was pimping isn’t red spike (highway ice plant), it doesn’t really look like iceplant, it is currenlty listed on the living desert website of palm springs as one of their plants in their outdoor botanical gargens so it does well in heat, uses little water and makes a good fire break. The problem with native plants is they burn like the dickens. I’m with you treehugger on the pampuas grass as being devil spawn but go easy on my pretty purple carpet. I found my purple carpet on xeriscape websites as a lawn replacement option, you can’t walk on it but you don’t have to mow it or water it much and it’s pretty. It also wasn’t on the bad plant list, it’s not the iceplant they list. I did like that list, it listed eucalyptus as evil, I wholeheartedly agree.

I’m afraid I’m not with you on the saltgrass, i took the link and looked at the pictures, it looks a lot like what I pay my kids to pick, my apologies for the senseless and ongoing murder, but at least i don’t spray them with roundup, well…not that I’ll admit to anyway. If you can outlaw pampas grass and blue gum eucalyptus, I’ll leave the salt grass alone, deal.

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