I hate ice plant.

[Oxford]

In all the homes I’ve owned with a slope, they were always covered with bee and rat haven, nasty looking requisite ice plant. (The slope not the home – but in time, I am sure, both).

Often, the slope was from “cut” and hard enough to strike a match on so the dreadful vegetation looked more like a water buffalo with mange.

I will be closing escrow next week and when you gaze out to the backyard you see a beautiful pool and… you guessed it – ICE PLANT.

I just KNOW there has to be a better form of plant life for slopes considering that they have had 475 million years to evolve. And I know the PIGG brain trust will contain such wisdom as its evolution is of a similar timeframe.

So share your agri-knowledge and help me escape this creeping ground sucking shrubbery for good.

OX
…ice ain’t nice

[sdduuuude]

It isn’t as bad as some alternatives, such as weeds with foxtails in them.

I have ice plant on my back slope and have no rat issues and I’m on a canyon. Perhaps my dogs and the local coyotes keep the critters out.

The only really nice way is to terrace the whole slope, which can get very expensive quickly. You can build a 3′ retaining wall without a permit, so just build a series of 3′ walls with nice flat land between them.

Some materials say you can use a gravel footing instead of concrete. For terracing a large slope, though, I would recommend using a concrete footing anyway. I had one wall on a gravel footing list, and I know a friend who’s wall also went bad on him.

In San Diego, be careful of land that has been declared “environmentally sensitive.” You can’t build structures on that. If you do have “environmentally sensitive” land and it is on a slope that has been cut or filled, you can pull old grading permits, show the city that it is a “manmade” slope and they will lift the sensitive rating.

In Clairemont, a very popular method for building retaining walls is to stack chunks of concrete (from old slabs that have been removed). It isn’t beautiful, but if you make all of the walls with the same method, it has some charm to it in a Clairemont sort of way.

[sdduuuude]

It isn’t as bad as some alternatives, such as weeds with foxtails in them.

I have ice plant on my back slope and have no rat issues and I’m on a canyon. Perhaps my dogs and the local coyotes keep the critters out.

The only really nice way is to terrace the whole slope, which can get very expensive quickly. You can build a 3′ retaining wall without a permit, so just build a series of 3′ walls with nice flat land between them.

Some materials say you can use a gravel footing instead of concrete. For terracing a large slope, though, I would recommend using a concrete footing anyway. I had one wall on a gravel footing list, and I know a friend who’s wall also went bad on him.

In San Diego, be careful of land that has been declared “environmentally sensitive.” You can’t build structures on that. If you do have “environmentally sensitive” land and it is on a slope that has been cut or filled, you can pull old grading permits, show the city that it is a “manmade” slope and they will lift the sensitive rating.

In Clairemont, a very popular method for building retaining walls is to stack chunks of concrete (from old slabs that have been removed). It isn’t beautiful, but if you make all of the walls with the same method, it has some charm to it in a Clairemont sort of way.

[sdduuuude]

It isn’t as bad as some alternatives, such as weeds with foxtails in them.

I have ice plant on my back slope and have no rat issues and I’m on a canyon. Perhaps my dogs and the local coyotes keep the critters out.

The only really nice way is to terrace the whole slope, which can get very expensive quickly. You can build a 3′ retaining wall without a permit, so just build a series of 3′ walls with nice flat land between them.

Some materials say you can use a gravel footing instead of concrete. For terracing a large slope, though, I would recommend using a concrete footing anyway. I had one wall on a gravel footing list, and I know a friend who’s wall also went bad on him.

In San Diego, be careful of land that has been declared “environmentally sensitive.” You can’t build structures on that. If you do have “environmentally sensitive” land and it is on a slope that has been cut or filled, you can pull old grading permits, show the city that it is a “manmade” slope and they will lift the sensitive rating.

In Clairemont, a very popular method for building retaining walls is to stack chunks of concrete (from old slabs that have been removed). It isn’t beautiful, but if you make all of the walls with the same method, it has some charm to it in a Clairemont sort of way.

[sdduuuude]

It isn’t as bad as some alternatives, such as weeds with foxtails in them.

I have ice plant on my back slope and have no rat issues and I’m on a canyon. Perhaps my dogs and the local coyotes keep the critters out.

The only really nice way is to terrace the whole slope, which can get very expensive quickly. You can build a 3′ retaining wall without a permit, so just build a series of 3′ walls with nice flat land between them.

Some materials say you can use a gravel footing instead of concrete. For terracing a large slope, though, I would recommend using a concrete footing anyway. I had one wall on a gravel footing list, and I know a friend who’s wall also went bad on him.

In San Diego, be careful of land that has been declared “environmentally sensitive.” You can’t build structures on that. If you do have “environmentally sensitive” land and it is on a slope that has been cut or filled, you can pull old grading permits, show the city that it is a “manmade” slope and they will lift the sensitive rating.

In Clairemont, a very popular method for building retaining walls is to stack chunks of concrete (from old slabs that have been removed). It isn’t beautiful, but if you make all of the walls with the same method, it has some charm to it in a Clairemont sort of way.

[sdduuuude]

It isn’t as bad as some alternatives, such as weeds with foxtails in them.

I have ice plant on my back slope and have no rat issues and I’m on a canyon. Perhaps my dogs and the local coyotes keep the critters out.

The only really nice way is to terrace the whole slope, which can get very expensive quickly. You can build a 3′ retaining wall without a permit, so just build a series of 3′ walls with nice flat land between them.

Some materials say you can use a gravel footing instead of concrete. For terracing a large slope, though, I would recommend using a concrete footing anyway. I had one wall on a gravel footing list, and I know a friend who’s wall also went bad on him.

In San Diego, be careful of land that has been declared “environmentally sensitive.” You can’t build structures on that. If you do have “environmentally sensitive” land and it is on a slope that has been cut or filled, you can pull old grading permits, show the city that it is a “manmade” slope and they will lift the sensitive rating.

In Clairemont, a very popular method for building retaining walls is to stack chunks of concrete (from old slabs that have been removed). It isn’t beautiful, but if you make all of the walls with the same method, it has some charm to it in a Clairemont sort of way.

[SHILOH]

Southern CA is basically desert. I am on the polar opposite of your view. Are you from Southern CA? Ice plant is great landscaping, prevents erosion, tolerates low water conditions – which is why it’s used for landscaping, as I understand it. Since the State of CA is essentially broke, more of these
low water type plants – like ice plant – should be utilized for landscaping.

There is a project at Cuyamaca College that educates on various grass types and plants for Southern CA landscaping w/ lowest possible water use. I have visited it and it’s very educational:
http://www.thegarden.org/

Be kind to the bees – we need all the pollinaters we can get.

[SHILOH]

Southern CA is basically desert. I am on the polar opposite of your view. Are you from Southern CA? Ice plant is great landscaping, prevents erosion, tolerates low water conditions – which is why it’s used for landscaping, as I understand it. Since the State of CA is essentially broke, more of these
low water type plants – like ice plant – should be utilized for landscaping.

There is a project at Cuyamaca College that educates on various grass types and plants for Southern CA landscaping w/ lowest possible water use. I have visited it and it’s very educational:
http://www.thegarden.org/

Be kind to the bees – we need all the pollinaters we can get.

[SHILOH]

Southern CA is basically desert. I am on the polar opposite of your view. Are you from Southern CA? Ice plant is great landscaping, prevents erosion, tolerates low water conditions – which is why it’s used for landscaping, as I understand it. Since the State of CA is essentially broke, more of these
low water type plants – like ice plant – should be utilized for landscaping.

There is a project at Cuyamaca College that educates on various grass types and plants for Southern CA landscaping w/ lowest possible water use. I have visited it and it’s very educational:
http://www.thegarden.org/

Be kind to the bees – we need all the pollinaters we can get.

[SHILOH]

Southern CA is basically desert. I am on the polar opposite of your view. Are you from Southern CA? Ice plant is great landscaping, prevents erosion, tolerates low water conditions – which is why it’s used for landscaping, as I understand it. Since the State of CA is essentially broke, more of these
low water type plants – like ice plant – should be utilized for landscaping.

There is a project at Cuyamaca College that educates on various grass types and plants for Southern CA landscaping w/ lowest possible water use. I have visited it and it’s very educational:
http://www.thegarden.org/

Be kind to the bees – we need all the pollinaters we can get.

[SHILOH]

Southern CA is basically desert. I am on the polar opposite of your view. Are you from Southern CA? Ice plant is great landscaping, prevents erosion, tolerates low water conditions – which is why it’s used for landscaping, as I understand it. Since the State of CA is essentially broke, more of these
low water type plants – like ice plant – should be utilized for landscaping.

There is a project at Cuyamaca College that educates on various grass types and plants for Southern CA landscaping w/ lowest possible water use. I have visited it and it’s very educational:
http://www.thegarden.org/

Be kind to the bees – we need all the pollinaters we can get.

[sdduuuude]

Yeah, Shiloh – it’s cheap and it works. Can’t say that about too many things.

[sdduuuude]

Yeah, Shiloh – it’s cheap and it works. Can’t say that about too many things.

[sdduuuude]

Yeah, Shiloh – it’s cheap and it works. Can’t say that about too many things.

[sdduuuude]

Yeah, Shiloh – it’s cheap and it works. Can’t say that about too many things.

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