How much turn off is that 4S ranch’s monthly fees?

[all]

[quote=freshman]It is interesting to hear your complain on HOA, but you already knew it when you bought a house there. The HOA fee will only go up and service is still the same.[/quote]

What can I say, I live to amuse.

[an]

[quote=sdnerd]
Conform? Can’t be original? Please.

Yes, there are certain things you cannot do. It’s intentional, because while you might think your original thinking is grand – everyone else on the block might disagree.

Want to do whatever you feel like, and are happy for your neighbors to do the same? Don’t buy into an HOA.

Want the general scheme of the neighborhood to be kept, the parks maintained, no RVs in front of your house, no satellite dishes on every roof, no cars parked on the front lawn, no crazy paint jobs, etc? An HOA might be attractive.

You wouldn’t be upset if your neighbor painted their house hot pink, their fence snot green, put a car up on blocks on the front lawn, and a 30 foot satellite dish in their backyard?

I’ve seen some crazy stuff driving around looking for houses. You might like your neighbors style today… you might not your next, and good luck selling if you live next to the circus.[/quote]
I didn’t buy into an HOA area and I’ll try my hardest to not buy into one in the future.

The park near me is maintained, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about there.

I don’t mind the RV, satellite dish (I have one myself, it’s saving me quite a bit of money over cable), my neighbor has a car parked on the front lawn. Those things didn’t bother me. Wasn’t the prettiest thing to the eye, but it’s his property, he can do whatever he wants to it. Some would think blue, grey, green to be crazy paint jobs. Once again, I don’t care about that either. It’s their house, they can do whatever they want to it. As long as my house looks good to me.

You might like to control what your neighbors do to/with/in their house, but I frankly don’t care. I rather they don’t car what I do to/with/in my house as well. Like I said, different stroke for different folks. There are plenty of people who are just like you and bought/buy in 4S and other similar area. There are also plenty of people who are just like me who bought in MM and similar area because there’s no HOA.

If I bought next to a circus, I’m sure I would have gotten it at a much lower price than if I bought it in 4S, so when I need to sell it, I wouldn’t expect it to sell for the price of a 4S house either.

BTW, here’s the definition of conform:
– follow standard: to comply with a fixed standard, regulation, or requirement
– be or make similar: to be the same as or very similar to something or somebody, or make something similar

I dare you to be original in 4S and paint your house any color other than shades of beige/brown.

[an]

[quote=sdnerd]
Conform? Can’t be original? Please.

Yes, there are certain things you cannot do. It’s intentional, because while you might think your original thinking is grand – everyone else on the block might disagree.

Want to do whatever you feel like, and are happy for your neighbors to do the same? Don’t buy into an HOA.

Want the general scheme of the neighborhood to be kept, the parks maintained, no RVs in front of your house, no satellite dishes on every roof, no cars parked on the front lawn, no crazy paint jobs, etc? An HOA might be attractive.

You wouldn’t be upset if your neighbor painted their house hot pink, their fence snot green, put a car up on blocks on the front lawn, and a 30 foot satellite dish in their backyard?

I’ve seen some crazy stuff driving around looking for houses. You might like your neighbors style today… you might not your next, and good luck selling if you live next to the circus.[/quote]
I didn’t buy into an HOA area and I’ll try my hardest to not buy into one in the future.

The park near me is maintained, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about there.

I don’t mind the RV, satellite dish (I have one myself, it’s saving me quite a bit of money over cable), my neighbor has a car parked on the front lawn. Those things didn’t bother me. Wasn’t the prettiest thing to the eye, but it’s his property, he can do whatever he wants to it. Some would think blue, grey, green to be crazy paint jobs. Once again, I don’t care about that either. It’s their house, they can do whatever they want to it. As long as my house looks good to me.

You might like to control what your neighbors do to/with/in their house, but I frankly don’t care. I rather they don’t car what I do to/with/in my house as well. Like I said, different stroke for different folks. There are plenty of people who are just like you and bought/buy in 4S and other similar area. There are also plenty of people who are just like me who bought in MM and similar area because there’s no HOA.

If I bought next to a circus, I’m sure I would have gotten it at a much lower price than if I bought it in 4S, so when I need to sell it, I wouldn’t expect it to sell for the price of a 4S house either.

BTW, here’s the definition of conform:
– follow standard: to comply with a fixed standard, regulation, or requirement
– be or make similar: to be the same as or very similar to something or somebody, or make something similar

I dare you to be original in 4S and paint your house any color other than shades of beige/brown.

[an]

[quote=sdnerd]
Conform? Can’t be original? Please.

Yes, there are certain things you cannot do. It’s intentional, because while you might think your original thinking is grand – everyone else on the block might disagree.

Want to do whatever you feel like, and are happy for your neighbors to do the same? Don’t buy into an HOA.

Want the general scheme of the neighborhood to be kept, the parks maintained, no RVs in front of your house, no satellite dishes on every roof, no cars parked on the front lawn, no crazy paint jobs, etc? An HOA might be attractive.

You wouldn’t be upset if your neighbor painted their house hot pink, their fence snot green, put a car up on blocks on the front lawn, and a 30 foot satellite dish in their backyard?

I’ve seen some crazy stuff driving around looking for houses. You might like your neighbors style today… you might not your next, and good luck selling if you live next to the circus.[/quote]
I didn’t buy into an HOA area and I’ll try my hardest to not buy into one in the future.

The park near me is maintained, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about there.

I don’t mind the RV, satellite dish (I have one myself, it’s saving me quite a bit of money over cable), my neighbor has a car parked on the front lawn. Those things didn’t bother me. Wasn’t the prettiest thing to the eye, but it’s his property, he can do whatever he wants to it. Some would think blue, grey, green to be crazy paint jobs. Once again, I don’t care about that either. It’s their house, they can do whatever they want to it. As long as my house looks good to me.

You might like to control what your neighbors do to/with/in their house, but I frankly don’t care. I rather they don’t car what I do to/with/in my house as well. Like I said, different stroke for different folks. There are plenty of people who are just like you and bought/buy in 4S and other similar area. There are also plenty of people who are just like me who bought in MM and similar area because there’s no HOA.

If I bought next to a circus, I’m sure I would have gotten it at a much lower price than if I bought it in 4S, so when I need to sell it, I wouldn’t expect it to sell for the price of a 4S house either.

BTW, here’s the definition of conform:
– follow standard: to comply with a fixed standard, regulation, or requirement
– be or make similar: to be the same as or very similar to something or somebody, or make something similar

I dare you to be original in 4S and paint your house any color other than shades of beige/brown.

[an]

[quote=sdnerd]
Conform? Can’t be original? Please.

Yes, there are certain things you cannot do. It’s intentional, because while you might think your original thinking is grand – everyone else on the block might disagree.

Want to do whatever you feel like, and are happy for your neighbors to do the same? Don’t buy into an HOA.

Want the general scheme of the neighborhood to be kept, the parks maintained, no RVs in front of your house, no satellite dishes on every roof, no cars parked on the front lawn, no crazy paint jobs, etc? An HOA might be attractive.

You wouldn’t be upset if your neighbor painted their house hot pink, their fence snot green, put a car up on blocks on the front lawn, and a 30 foot satellite dish in their backyard?

I’ve seen some crazy stuff driving around looking for houses. You might like your neighbors style today… you might not your next, and good luck selling if you live next to the circus.[/quote]
I didn’t buy into an HOA area and I’ll try my hardest to not buy into one in the future.

The park near me is maintained, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about there.

I don’t mind the RV, satellite dish (I have one myself, it’s saving me quite a bit of money over cable), my neighbor has a car parked on the front lawn. Those things didn’t bother me. Wasn’t the prettiest thing to the eye, but it’s his property, he can do whatever he wants to it. Some would think blue, grey, green to be crazy paint jobs. Once again, I don’t care about that either. It’s their house, they can do whatever they want to it. As long as my house looks good to me.

You might like to control what your neighbors do to/with/in their house, but I frankly don’t care. I rather they don’t car what I do to/with/in my house as well. Like I said, different stroke for different folks. There are plenty of people who are just like you and bought/buy in 4S and other similar area. There are also plenty of people who are just like me who bought in MM and similar area because there’s no HOA.

If I bought next to a circus, I’m sure I would have gotten it at a much lower price than if I bought it in 4S, so when I need to sell it, I wouldn’t expect it to sell for the price of a 4S house either.

BTW, here’s the definition of conform:
– follow standard: to comply with a fixed standard, regulation, or requirement
– be or make similar: to be the same as or very similar to something or somebody, or make something similar

I dare you to be original in 4S and paint your house any color other than shades of beige/brown.

[an]

[quote=sdnerd]
Conform? Can’t be original? Please.

Yes, there are certain things you cannot do. It’s intentional, because while you might think your original thinking is grand – everyone else on the block might disagree.

Want to do whatever you feel like, and are happy for your neighbors to do the same? Don’t buy into an HOA.

Want the general scheme of the neighborhood to be kept, the parks maintained, no RVs in front of your house, no satellite dishes on every roof, no cars parked on the front lawn, no crazy paint jobs, etc? An HOA might be attractive.

You wouldn’t be upset if your neighbor painted their house hot pink, their fence snot green, put a car up on blocks on the front lawn, and a 30 foot satellite dish in their backyard?

I’ve seen some crazy stuff driving around looking for houses. You might like your neighbors style today… you might not your next, and good luck selling if you live next to the circus.[/quote]
I didn’t buy into an HOA area and I’ll try my hardest to not buy into one in the future.

The park near me is maintained, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about there.

I don’t mind the RV, satellite dish (I have one myself, it’s saving me quite a bit of money over cable), my neighbor has a car parked on the front lawn. Those things didn’t bother me. Wasn’t the prettiest thing to the eye, but it’s his property, he can do whatever he wants to it. Some would think blue, grey, green to be crazy paint jobs. Once again, I don’t care about that either. It’s their house, they can do whatever they want to it. As long as my house looks good to me.

You might like to control what your neighbors do to/with/in their house, but I frankly don’t care. I rather they don’t car what I do to/with/in my house as well. Like I said, different stroke for different folks. There are plenty of people who are just like you and bought/buy in 4S and other similar area. There are also plenty of people who are just like me who bought in MM and similar area because there’s no HOA.

If I bought next to a circus, I’m sure I would have gotten it at a much lower price than if I bought it in 4S, so when I need to sell it, I wouldn’t expect it to sell for the price of a 4S house either.

BTW, here’s the definition of conform:
– follow standard: to comply with a fixed standard, regulation, or requirement
– be or make similar: to be the same as or very similar to something or somebody, or make something similar

I dare you to be original in 4S and paint your house any color other than shades of beige/brown.

[asegal]

Don’t get carried away because MR is not tax deductible… at least not legally. Still worth it in some 4S neighborhoods.

[SK in CV]

[quote=asegal]Don’t get carried away because MR is not tax deductible… at least not legally. Still worth it in some 4S neighborhoods.[/quote]

Yes, they are deductible.

[lifeisgood]

I think there is an argument to be made for having HOA and not. I live in 4S and love it. My wife and I looked at many properties before we decided that 4S made since to us. The homes that we looked at, that were comparable in square footage and amenities, were 100,000+ more than we paid. The cost in our mortgage with the added fees kind of balanced out with this in mind. We do pay mello-roos/HOA and would rather not, but we justify it because we would pay the same amount for a used house that is comparable. To speak to HOA, I am for it. We already have neighbors that are pushing the boundaries but I’ve seen worse in other neighborhoods. I do believe that another persons decisions towards their house could adversely affect our home value. I don’t want anything to do with that. Just my opinion.

[ocrenter]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=asegal]Don’t get carried away because MR is not tax deductible… at least not legally. Still worth it in some 4S neighborhoods.[/quote]

Yes, they are deductible.[/quote]

How many of us can really deduct the MR given the AMT?

Just pay the MR off and think of the payoff as part of the cost of home.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=sdnerd][quote=AN]
Sorry, but it sounds the same to me. If you want to be original, you’re screwed in such area. If you like to conform, then such area would be great. I paid for my house with my money, so I don’t like to have people tell me what I can and can’t do with my house, be it paint, window covering, trees, etc.[/quote]

Conform? Can’t be original? Please.

Yes, there are certain things you cannot do. It’s intentional, because while you might think your original thinking is grand – everyone else on the block might disagree.

Want to do whatever you feel like, and are happy for your neighbors to do the same? Don’t buy into an HOA.

Want the general scheme of the neighborhood to be kept, the parks maintained, no RVs in front of your house, no satellite dishes on every roof, no cars parked on the front lawn, no crazy paint jobs, etc? An HOA might be attractive.

You wouldn’t be upset if your neighbor painted their house hot pink, their fence snot green, put a car up on blocks on the front lawn, and a 30 foot satellite dish in their backyard?

I’ve seen some crazy stuff driving around looking for houses. You might like your neighbors style today… you might not your next, and good luck selling if you live next to the circus.[/quote]

I would dig a snot green fence. I’d like a wine bottle fence…stacked green bottles. I’d love a cactus fence.

I would prefer a turquoise house. Pink is second choice

[scaredyclassic]

We don’t have an HOA in our distinct Tract, but I was thinking about trying to form a loose free association, just to have contact w more neighbors.

Maybe set up a Facebook page and hand out flyers? Have a BBQ?

I was thinking of trying to organize under the general idea of Safety. Disaster preparedness ? There’s a very old man across the street who should really have my number.

[scaredyclassic]

im pretty sure we are the people others dont like…i’ll probably be immediately ousted if i formed an hoa.

[paramount]

4S Ranch is 5 minutes or less from my place of employment.

Last year I made close to 150k.

I have typical debt levels.

I cannot afford to live in 4S.

If your worried about HOA and MR, you can’t afford 4S.

I spend a lot of time at 4S Ranch, and it is for the 1%ers…unfortunately for me.

I lost the ovarian lottery. Oh well.

[dumbrenter]

[quote=paramount]4S Ranch is 5 minutes or less from my place of employment.

Last year I made close to 150k.

I have typical debt levels.

I cannot afford to live in 4S.

If your worried about HOA and MR, you can’t afford 4S.

I spend a lot of time at 4S Ranch, and it is for the 1%ers…unfortunately for me.

I lost the ovarian lottery. Oh well.[/quote]

4S ranch is a middle class neighborhood, definitely not for 1%ers who have much better options.

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