Herman cain, dead.

[scaredyclassic]

ok. well at law, there are different forms of “causation”. Legal causation, and proximate causation. We can argue all day about what actually causes a eprson’s death.

Herman cain, from my point of view was on his last legs. 74, black male with lower life expectancy that comparable white male, cancer survivor, didnt have long to lvie, got covid, died ina few week. is it a scam to put covid on hsi death certificate? if so, what should they have put? old black guy with cancer who was about ready to kick the bucket ina couple years anyway?

no. bot the legal and the proximate cause of his death was the covid.

what you are saying is basically if I shoot a person in the icu, am i really guilty of “murder”. come on, man, he was gonna die in a few days anyway.

[The-Shoveler]

complications maybe of being old and feeble, OK maybe I will leave it alone not my field.

[Coronita]

Leaders like him were exactly the reason why so many people are not taking covid seriously and putting a lot of other people at significant risk. Maybe with his death, people will take it more seriously. Scratch that. I doubt it

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=The-Shoveler]complications maybe of being old and feeble, OK maybe I will leave it alone not my field.[/quote]

we are all weak and feeble. it’s a matter of degree.

it’s kinda funny, the histrionics over the right to lfie for a clump of unborn cells, but old or sick people? fuck em, they’re close to death anyway, covid, the flu, a strong breeze, anything could push them over. no particular interest. or whos to say he wouldnt have died anyway without the cove.

look, i kinda like herman cain, he’s actually a funny guy, kinda inspirational. but he took this devil may care act a bit too far for a person in his position. he’s an old fart who failed to acknowledge reality and got swept away, but he’s firmly in the covid death category even though he was old, fairly weak though ambulatory and looked good, internally feeble, though he looked ok, and had had cancer.

covid killed cain, both the legal and the proximate cause, even though his days were clearly numbered (a smallish number)

either covid, or prayer.

[scaredyclassic]

pizza guy. funny story of his corporate eladership where he was signing john lennons imagine ina ‘za version.

“imagine there’s no pizza….

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=The-Shoveler]complications maybe of being old and feeble, OK maybe I will leave it alone not my field.[/quote]

this isnt a medical issue. this is a political issue. you are definitely qualified to opine.

you deeply suspect the statistical death infomration is being manipulated by the doctors responsible for political reasons, apparently.

you are allowed to have the opinion. theres no expertise or “field” involved.

It’s just a gut feeling. everyone is lying to you. people bring this up a lot . democrats lie, probably to ruin the economy. to gain political power. covering up hydroxycholorquinines effectiveness. for evil purposes. they ahte america.

i feel bad judging this, ( I do, I think it’s clinncally insane, ) because i’ve been ranting liek this for 30 years, except I was ranting that the govt was lying about drugs and prosecuting an immoral drug war to imprison its citizens and seize their assets. normal people thought iw as nuts. so, who am i really to say? i hate the govt too, and believe they’re a lying bunch of liars out to harm their own citizens, esp. black citizens, by locking them up for acts that should be noncriminal.

who will be the last guy to go to the slammer for weed?

[The-Shoveler]

LOL you are the political one and make a lot of assumptions.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=The-Shoveler]Given that the overwhelming number of people who die of covid-19 are over 75,

I wonder if say they die over the age of say 80 you just say they died with covid-19.

Or is it that no one is suppose to bring this up.[/quote]

i assumed that the word “you” in the 2nd paragraph referred to a medical professional making a judgment as to cause of death. otherwise, what sense would it make? All these death spikes, maybe it’s just the weather. maybe people would have been dying a lot in 2020 anyway. whos to say its covid

not sure what other assumption i made. I dont assume your pro hydroxycholoroquinine, although it seems liek a decent bet. but i didnt say you were. however, people whoa re suspicious of the death toll are probably likely to think hydroxy cures cove. lol

[ocrenter]

When we complete the death certificate, we need to complete immediate cause, subacute cause, and chronic factors.

In Cain’s case, immediate would likely be respiratory failure or cardiac arrest. Subacute would be COVID, and chronic would be based on his colon cancer status.

A guy that survived stage 4 colon ca would likely get yearly Cea cancer marker test, so if the marker was undetectable at the last measure, doctors likely would diagnose as colon ca in remission on annual basis. So then it wouldn’t even make it to his death certificate.

If CEA elevated, likely would have been getting multiple imaging and active treatment and family would have known the cancer came back prior to the Tulsa rally.

[Hobie]

@OCR: Would it be fair to say that the CDC reported Covid death totals are including the subacute and even chronic factors?

[svelte]

[quote=scaredyclassic]

who will be the last guy to go to the slammer for weed?[/quote]

Tommy Chong

[ocrenter]

[quote=Hobie]@OCR: Would it be fair to say that the CDC reported Covid death totals are including the subacute and even chronic factors?[/quote]

COVID would be just acute and subacute at this time. I suppose someone with long term complications from COVID a few more months and couple of years down the road can qualify for chronic.

[svelte]

…wrong thread sorry…

[scaredyclassic]

I was cleaning out some mouse poop in the garage and my wife said put on a mask, hantavirus. I was like, fuck, right, just my luck to die of hantavirus during covid epidemic. Yesterdays plague.

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