Guy has a good example as to why Obamanomics won’t work.

[CA renter]

Agree with what kewp said…
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wannabe,

We agree to disagree about the reasons behind our credit bubble, price movements, wealth disparity, and the loss of the U.S. middle-class.

Perhaps we cannot tax our way to prosperity, but we cannot continue funneling money to the top 5% without some serious social and economic consequences.

Personally, I’d rather see labor getting the bulk of this country’s wealth, rather than the capitalists. It is labor who creates the wealth in the first place.

[ralphfurley]

[quote=wannabe2077]
The Democrats support for public schools and opposition to school choice/vouchers is the singular reason for home price appreciation price war that have destroyed this country. The damage from this misguided policies exceeds any damage Bush could do.
[/quote]
School vouchers could have saved this country from economic collapse?

Preemptively attacking a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 911 didn’t help us financially. It sure didn’t help me at least.

But school vouchers being the singular reason? Come on. NINJA loans, funny financing, deregulation, 1977 Community Reinvestment act… no? School vouchers?

[ralphfurley]

[quote=wannabe2077]
The Democrats support for public schools and opposition to school choice/vouchers is the singular reason for home price appreciation price war that have destroyed this country. The damage from this misguided policies exceeds any damage Bush could do.
[/quote]
School vouchers could have saved this country from economic collapse?

Preemptively attacking a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 911 didn’t help us financially. It sure didn’t help me at least.

But school vouchers being the singular reason? Come on. NINJA loans, funny financing, deregulation, 1977 Community Reinvestment act… no? School vouchers?

[ralphfurley]

[quote=wannabe2077]
The Democrats support for public schools and opposition to school choice/vouchers is the singular reason for home price appreciation price war that have destroyed this country. The damage from this misguided policies exceeds any damage Bush could do.
[/quote]
School vouchers could have saved this country from economic collapse?

Preemptively attacking a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 911 didn’t help us financially. It sure didn’t help me at least.

But school vouchers being the singular reason? Come on. NINJA loans, funny financing, deregulation, 1977 Community Reinvestment act… no? School vouchers?

[ralphfurley]

[quote=wannabe2077]
The Democrats support for public schools and opposition to school choice/vouchers is the singular reason for home price appreciation price war that have destroyed this country. The damage from this misguided policies exceeds any damage Bush could do.
[/quote]
School vouchers could have saved this country from economic collapse?

Preemptively attacking a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 911 didn’t help us financially. It sure didn’t help me at least.

But school vouchers being the singular reason? Come on. NINJA loans, funny financing, deregulation, 1977 Community Reinvestment act… no? School vouchers?

[ralphfurley]

[quote=wannabe2077]
The Democrats support for public schools and opposition to school choice/vouchers is the singular reason for home price appreciation price war that have destroyed this country. The damage from this misguided policies exceeds any damage Bush could do.
[/quote]
School vouchers could have saved this country from economic collapse?

Preemptively attacking a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 911 didn’t help us financially. It sure didn’t help me at least.

But school vouchers being the singular reason? Come on. NINJA loans, funny financing, deregulation, 1977 Community Reinvestment act… no? School vouchers?

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=wannabe2077]
what fat_lazy_union_worker does not realize is his salary, health insurance, pension, retiree health is being paid by the taxpayers. taxpayers are being squeezed. rising home and stock values cushioned the blow for the past 20+ years. With asset values declining the pain is being felt.
[/quote]

FLU…

“Identify!”

😛

Oink, CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=wannabe2077]
what fat_lazy_union_worker does not realize is his salary, health insurance, pension, retiree health is being paid by the taxpayers. taxpayers are being squeezed. rising home and stock values cushioned the blow for the past 20+ years. With asset values declining the pain is being felt.
[/quote]

FLU…

“Identify!”

😛

Oink, CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=wannabe2077]
what fat_lazy_union_worker does not realize is his salary, health insurance, pension, retiree health is being paid by the taxpayers. taxpayers are being squeezed. rising home and stock values cushioned the blow for the past 20+ years. With asset values declining the pain is being felt.
[/quote]

FLU…

“Identify!”

😛

Oink, CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=wannabe2077]
what fat_lazy_union_worker does not realize is his salary, health insurance, pension, retiree health is being paid by the taxpayers. taxpayers are being squeezed. rising home and stock values cushioned the blow for the past 20+ years. With asset values declining the pain is being felt.
[/quote]

FLU…

“Identify!”

😛

Oink, CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=wannabe2077]
what fat_lazy_union_worker does not realize is his salary, health insurance, pension, retiree health is being paid by the taxpayers. taxpayers are being squeezed. rising home and stock values cushioned the blow for the past 20+ years. With asset values declining the pain is being felt.
[/quote]

FLU…

“Identify!”

😛

Oink, CE

[Chris Scoreboard Johnston]

As for the union influence on the auto industry, do any of you commenting on this work in that industry or have relatives that do? I can tell you growing up in the Midwest with my father heavily involved in that industry his whole life that there is absolutely no question at all that the unions have ruined the us automakers. Study the Monday car syndrome on the web. We actaully had one of these, it is true.

Analyze which car makers have done the best and you will see that they are union free companies. You can argue that it was bad decision making by management but they were being held hostage. Also study the foreign manufacturers like Mercedes that make some of their cars in the US and some overseas. You will see that the US made ones especially in Alabama ( spartanburg, not exactly sure what city their SUV plant is in ) have had the worst quality ratings, and low and behold, it is a unionized plant.

Unions had their purpose originally but have morphed into another self entitlement skit for lazy americans. Terrible quality at a higher price, some business model. Whenever given a choice of doing business with a unionized and non unionized company, I always give my business to the non-unionized one even if it means paying more to do so. The UPS strike was a perfect example, they caused me some serious problems, now I use their competition and gladly pay more for more reliability.

[Chris Scoreboard Johnston]

As for the union influence on the auto industry, do any of you commenting on this work in that industry or have relatives that do? I can tell you growing up in the Midwest with my father heavily involved in that industry his whole life that there is absolutely no question at all that the unions have ruined the us automakers. Study the Monday car syndrome on the web. We actaully had one of these, it is true.

Analyze which car makers have done the best and you will see that they are union free companies. You can argue that it was bad decision making by management but they were being held hostage. Also study the foreign manufacturers like Mercedes that make some of their cars in the US and some overseas. You will see that the US made ones especially in Alabama ( spartanburg, not exactly sure what city their SUV plant is in ) have had the worst quality ratings, and low and behold, it is a unionized plant.

Unions had their purpose originally but have morphed into another self entitlement skit for lazy americans. Terrible quality at a higher price, some business model. Whenever given a choice of doing business with a unionized and non unionized company, I always give my business to the non-unionized one even if it means paying more to do so. The UPS strike was a perfect example, they caused me some serious problems, now I use their competition and gladly pay more for more reliability.

[Chris Scoreboard Johnston]

As for the union influence on the auto industry, do any of you commenting on this work in that industry or have relatives that do? I can tell you growing up in the Midwest with my father heavily involved in that industry his whole life that there is absolutely no question at all that the unions have ruined the us automakers. Study the Monday car syndrome on the web. We actaully had one of these, it is true.

Analyze which car makers have done the best and you will see that they are union free companies. You can argue that it was bad decision making by management but they were being held hostage. Also study the foreign manufacturers like Mercedes that make some of their cars in the US and some overseas. You will see that the US made ones especially in Alabama ( spartanburg, not exactly sure what city their SUV plant is in ) have had the worst quality ratings, and low and behold, it is a unionized plant.

Unions had their purpose originally but have morphed into another self entitlement skit for lazy americans. Terrible quality at a higher price, some business model. Whenever given a choice of doing business with a unionized and non unionized company, I always give my business to the non-unionized one even if it means paying more to do so. The UPS strike was a perfect example, they caused me some serious problems, now I use their competition and gladly pay more for more reliability.

[Chris Scoreboard Johnston]

As for the union influence on the auto industry, do any of you commenting on this work in that industry or have relatives that do? I can tell you growing up in the Midwest with my father heavily involved in that industry his whole life that there is absolutely no question at all that the unions have ruined the us automakers. Study the Monday car syndrome on the web. We actaully had one of these, it is true.

Analyze which car makers have done the best and you will see that they are union free companies. You can argue that it was bad decision making by management but they were being held hostage. Also study the foreign manufacturers like Mercedes that make some of their cars in the US and some overseas. You will see that the US made ones especially in Alabama ( spartanburg, not exactly sure what city their SUV plant is in ) have had the worst quality ratings, and low and behold, it is a unionized plant.

Unions had their purpose originally but have morphed into another self entitlement skit for lazy americans. Terrible quality at a higher price, some business model. Whenever given a choice of doing business with a unionized and non unionized company, I always give my business to the non-unionized one even if it means paying more to do so. The UPS strike was a perfect example, they caused me some serious problems, now I use their competition and gladly pay more for more reliability.

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