Gov’t giving you $4500 to trade in your old car,

[Coronita]

sorry, I started a poll yesterday, screwed it up, and then had to run and do something else. Let me put it up again. I think the cash for clunker isn’t really going to help most people, but let’s see.

[paramount]

[quote=briansd1]Just an indirect giveaway to the dealers and car companies. And another way to get Americans into debt.

Try negotiating a cash deal on a car and once the price is agree upon, tell them what you want to turn in your old clunker and get $4,500 + $4,500 ($9,000) off the price of the purchase.

They won’t sell the car to you. They’ll come up with some lame excuse that, unfortunately, that one unique car has been sold by the manager already (or some excuse like that).[/quote]

I agree 100%.

[paramount]

[quote=briansd1]Just an indirect giveaway to the dealers and car companies. And another way to get Americans into debt.

Try negotiating a cash deal on a car and once the price is agree upon, tell them what you want to turn in your old clunker and get $4,500 + $4,500 ($9,000) off the price of the purchase.

They won’t sell the car to you. They’ll come up with some lame excuse that, unfortunately, that one unique car has been sold by the manager already (or some excuse like that).[/quote]

I agree 100%.

[paramount]

[quote=briansd1]Just an indirect giveaway to the dealers and car companies. And another way to get Americans into debt.

Try negotiating a cash deal on a car and once the price is agree upon, tell them what you want to turn in your old clunker and get $4,500 + $4,500 ($9,000) off the price of the purchase.

They won’t sell the car to you. They’ll come up with some lame excuse that, unfortunately, that one unique car has been sold by the manager already (or some excuse like that).[/quote]

I agree 100%.

[paramount]

[quote=briansd1]Just an indirect giveaway to the dealers and car companies. And another way to get Americans into debt.

Try negotiating a cash deal on a car and once the price is agree upon, tell them what you want to turn in your old clunker and get $4,500 + $4,500 ($9,000) off the price of the purchase.

They won’t sell the car to you. They’ll come up with some lame excuse that, unfortunately, that one unique car has been sold by the manager already (or some excuse like that).[/quote]

I agree 100%.

[paramount]

[quote=briansd1]Just an indirect giveaway to the dealers and car companies. And another way to get Americans into debt.

Try negotiating a cash deal on a car and once the price is agree upon, tell them what you want to turn in your old clunker and get $4,500 + $4,500 ($9,000) off the price of the purchase.

They won’t sell the car to you. They’ll come up with some lame excuse that, unfortunately, that one unique car has been sold by the manager already (or some excuse like that).[/quote]

I agree 100%.

[bsrsharma]

briansd & paramount:

Whether you buy a car under the program or not, one thing I can tell you from my recent car buying experience: The dealers of Big 3 are really humble. The bankruptcy (of GM & Chrysler), dealers closing down and the severity of recession have convinced them that their best days are over and they may not be in the business for long. You can sense a huge change in their attitude if you go there to buy a car.

Of course, you should do your homework and research prices etc., The dealer is not interested in you saving a lot of money; but the arrogance is definitely gone. Somewhat similar with realtors too.

[bsrsharma]

briansd & paramount:

Whether you buy a car under the program or not, one thing I can tell you from my recent car buying experience: The dealers of Big 3 are really humble. The bankruptcy (of GM & Chrysler), dealers closing down and the severity of recession have convinced them that their best days are over and they may not be in the business for long. You can sense a huge change in their attitude if you go there to buy a car.

Of course, you should do your homework and research prices etc., The dealer is not interested in you saving a lot of money; but the arrogance is definitely gone. Somewhat similar with realtors too.

[bsrsharma]

briansd & paramount:

Whether you buy a car under the program or not, one thing I can tell you from my recent car buying experience: The dealers of Big 3 are really humble. The bankruptcy (of GM & Chrysler), dealers closing down and the severity of recession have convinced them that their best days are over and they may not be in the business for long. You can sense a huge change in their attitude if you go there to buy a car.

Of course, you should do your homework and research prices etc., The dealer is not interested in you saving a lot of money; but the arrogance is definitely gone. Somewhat similar with realtors too.

[bsrsharma]

briansd & paramount:

Whether you buy a car under the program or not, one thing I can tell you from my recent car buying experience: The dealers of Big 3 are really humble. The bankruptcy (of GM & Chrysler), dealers closing down and the severity of recession have convinced them that their best days are over and they may not be in the business for long. You can sense a huge change in their attitude if you go there to buy a car.

Of course, you should do your homework and research prices etc., The dealer is not interested in you saving a lot of money; but the arrogance is definitely gone. Somewhat similar with realtors too.

[bsrsharma]

briansd & paramount:

Whether you buy a car under the program or not, one thing I can tell you from my recent car buying experience: The dealers of Big 3 are really humble. The bankruptcy (of GM & Chrysler), dealers closing down and the severity of recession have convinced them that their best days are over and they may not be in the business for long. You can sense a huge change in their attitude if you go there to buy a car.

Of course, you should do your homework and research prices etc., The dealer is not interested in you saving a lot of money; but the arrogance is definitely gone. Somewhat similar with realtors too.

[Coronita]

[quote=paramount][quote=briansd1]Just an indirect giveaway to the dealers and car companies. And another way to get Americans into debt.

Try negotiating a cash deal on a car and once the price is agree upon, tell them what you want to turn in your old clunker and get $4,500 + $4,500 ($9,000) off the price of the purchase.

They won’t sell the car to you. They’ll come up with some lame excuse that, unfortunately, that one unique car has been sold by the manager already (or some excuse like that).[/quote]

I agree 100%.[/quote]

I disagree with that…First, the $4500 credit from the government is just that. It’s money from the fed…..They don’t care how you pay for $X…So long as you pay for $X. You could come up with $X or $X-4500 and let the 4500 come from the fed, they don’t care….We, taxpayers are footing this subsidy.

Second, the other $4500 credit is a rebate that some (not all) manufacturers are offering…There is no scam in this. Now, if you don’t negotiate well, you probably won’t see the entire $4500…But i can tell, you it’s real. Just for kicks, I’m talking to some BMW dealers to see how low they’re willing to sell a 335d, and they are definitely discounting them (I won’t say how much). It only applies to the 335d, because americans for some reason don’t like diesels.

[Coronita]

[quote=paramount][quote=briansd1]Just an indirect giveaway to the dealers and car companies. And another way to get Americans into debt.

Try negotiating a cash deal on a car and once the price is agree upon, tell them what you want to turn in your old clunker and get $4,500 + $4,500 ($9,000) off the price of the purchase.

They won’t sell the car to you. They’ll come up with some lame excuse that, unfortunately, that one unique car has been sold by the manager already (or some excuse like that).[/quote]

I agree 100%.[/quote]

I disagree with that…First, the $4500 credit from the government is just that. It’s money from the fed…..They don’t care how you pay for $X…So long as you pay for $X. You could come up with $X or $X-4500 and let the 4500 come from the fed, they don’t care….We, taxpayers are footing this subsidy.

Second, the other $4500 credit is a rebate that some (not all) manufacturers are offering…There is no scam in this. Now, if you don’t negotiate well, you probably won’t see the entire $4500…But i can tell, you it’s real. Just for kicks, I’m talking to some BMW dealers to see how low they’re willing to sell a 335d, and they are definitely discounting them (I won’t say how much). It only applies to the 335d, because americans for some reason don’t like diesels.

[Coronita]

[quote=paramount][quote=briansd1]Just an indirect giveaway to the dealers and car companies. And another way to get Americans into debt.

Try negotiating a cash deal on a car and once the price is agree upon, tell them what you want to turn in your old clunker and get $4,500 + $4,500 ($9,000) off the price of the purchase.

They won’t sell the car to you. They’ll come up with some lame excuse that, unfortunately, that one unique car has been sold by the manager already (or some excuse like that).[/quote]

I agree 100%.[/quote]

I disagree with that…First, the $4500 credit from the government is just that. It’s money from the fed…..They don’t care how you pay for $X…So long as you pay for $X. You could come up with $X or $X-4500 and let the 4500 come from the fed, they don’t care….We, taxpayers are footing this subsidy.

Second, the other $4500 credit is a rebate that some (not all) manufacturers are offering…There is no scam in this. Now, if you don’t negotiate well, you probably won’t see the entire $4500…But i can tell, you it’s real. Just for kicks, I’m talking to some BMW dealers to see how low they’re willing to sell a 335d, and they are definitely discounting them (I won’t say how much). It only applies to the 335d, because americans for some reason don’t like diesels.

[Coronita]

[quote=paramount][quote=briansd1]Just an indirect giveaway to the dealers and car companies. And another way to get Americans into debt.

Try negotiating a cash deal on a car and once the price is agree upon, tell them what you want to turn in your old clunker and get $4,500 + $4,500 ($9,000) off the price of the purchase.

They won’t sell the car to you. They’ll come up with some lame excuse that, unfortunately, that one unique car has been sold by the manager already (or some excuse like that).[/quote]

I agree 100%.[/quote]

I disagree with that…First, the $4500 credit from the government is just that. It’s money from the fed…..They don’t care how you pay for $X…So long as you pay for $X. You could come up with $X or $X-4500 and let the 4500 come from the fed, they don’t care….We, taxpayers are footing this subsidy.

Second, the other $4500 credit is a rebate that some (not all) manufacturers are offering…There is no scam in this. Now, if you don’t negotiate well, you probably won’t see the entire $4500…But i can tell, you it’s real. Just for kicks, I’m talking to some BMW dealers to see how low they’re willing to sell a 335d, and they are definitely discounting them (I won’t say how much). It only applies to the 335d, because americans for some reason don’t like diesels.

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