Goodbye to San Diego

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[quote=sdrealtor]Utah and it’s 3M residents had a $1.5B budget surplus. Sounds like a well run state. Poorly run California and it’s 40M residents only had a $75B budget surplus[/quote]

+1

Yeah California society is pretty f’ed up all right. 🙂

[phaster]

[quote=EconProf]
As a long-ago liberal–it’s hard to be a college teacher and not be liberal–my entry into the private sector via real estate investing and being a contractor in the inner city gave me a rude awakening.
Of course much of this change is due to simply getting old. As Winston Churchill said, paraphrasing, “To be young and not liberal is to have no heart. To be old and not conservative is to have no head.”[/quote]

sigh,… seems local elected leadership didn’t get the Churchill memo

[sdrealtor]

[quote=EconProf]Thanks Flyer, and you are quite right that the move was prompted less by financial motives than other factors.
Commentators on the left and the right agree that the nation is dividing into two geographic directions, or what could be called factions. The big cities, especially coastal ones versus the inland ones, the latter perhaps including the ex-urban parts of all cities.
Given current trends, I want to be part of the inland, more rural part. The culture, politics, and friendliness of the people are entirely different. We will never buy motels to house the homeless and addicted or free repeat-criminals from our jails or teach school children to be race-conscious. We won’t close our schools unnecessarily. Our taxes and fiscal future will stay healthy, crime rates will stay low, and education levels high. Our influx of escaping “refugees” from the woke cities will continue.
As a long-ago liberal–it’s hard to be a college teacher and not be liberal–my entry into the private sector via real estate investing and being a contractor in the inner city gave me a rude awakening.
Of course much of this change is due to simply getting old. As Winston Churchill said, paraphrasing, “To be young and not liberal is to have no heart. To be old and not conservative is to have no head.”[/quote]

What hogwash and intellectual dishonesty. You moved to be near your children and grandchildren. You could’ve just left it at that! If they were here you still would be and you know that. You’re just using your move to be near them as an excuse to bash CA on your way out.

[Coronita]

[quote=EconProf]Thanks Flyer, and you are quite right that the move was prompted less by financial motives than other factors.
Commentators on the left and the right agree that the nation is dividing into two geographic directions, or what could be called factions. The big cities, especially coastal ones versus the inland ones, the latter perhaps including the ex-urban parts of all cities.
Given current trends, I want to be part of the inland, more rural part. The culture, politics, and friendliness of the people are entirely different. We will never buy motels to house the homeless and addicted or free repeat-criminals from our jails or teach school children to be race-conscious. We won’t close our schools unnecessarily. Our taxes and fiscal future will stay healthy, crime rates will stay low, and education levels high. Our influx of escaping “refugees” from the woke cities will continue.
As a long-ago liberal–it’s hard to be a college teacher and not be liberal–my entry into the private sector via real estate investing and being a contractor in the inner city gave me a rude awakening.
Of course much of this change is due to simply getting old. As Winston Churchill said, paraphrasing, “To be young and not liberal is to have no heart. To be old and not conservative is to have no head.”[/quote]

Why do people after a certain age roughly past 60+ feel so compelled to be so hateful? I mean, is there some sort of thing that once you get past 60, something happens in the brain chemistry that people just tend to process bitterness/anger more readily than things positive?

I see this in some of my own relatives. It’s like there’s a mental short circuit or something, and higher brain function starts to process negativity/bitter/hate often times choosing to process false negativity rather than truth positives.

I say this because I have a relative that watches fox news and cnn news. And while both news tend to lie and distort on different issues, fox news tends to do so by negative lies….cnn tends to lie on false positive lies… But the lies that I see being processed and believed are the falsehoods on Fox News, the hate rhetoric…I got this relative that actually believes 5G can cause covid because he read it on one of the alt-right “news outlets”… This is a guy who studied applied and engineering physics in college….

I don’t get it.

[sdrealtor]

As I always say. California leads, the rest follow

https://patch.com/california/san-francisco/california-leads-our-national-recovery-despite-perpetual-naysayers?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=share&fbclid=IwAR3ndUl-0EYtDiRRrc0PzGbQCYkX0JgSeN1Ow9AO6V79iRaHeykZjFfi85M

[an]

[quote=Coronita][quote=EconProf]Thanks Flyer, and you are quite right that the move was prompted less by financial motives than other factors.
Commentators on the left and the right agree that the nation is dividing into two geographic directions, or what could be called factions. The big cities, especially coastal ones versus the inland ones, the latter perhaps including the ex-urban parts of all cities.
Given current trends, I want to be part of the inland, more rural part. The culture, politics, and friendliness of the people are entirely different. We will never buy motels to house the homeless and addicted or free repeat-criminals from our jails or teach school children to be race-conscious. We won’t close our schools unnecessarily. Our taxes and fiscal future will stay healthy, crime rates will stay low, and education levels high. Our influx of escaping “refugees” from the woke cities will continue.
As a long-ago liberal–it’s hard to be a college teacher and not be liberal–my entry into the private sector via real estate investing and being a contractor in the inner city gave me a rude awakening.
Of course much of this change is due to simply getting old. As Winston Churchill said, paraphrasing, “To be young and not liberal is to have no heart. To be old and not conservative is to have no head.”[/quote]

Why do people after a certain age roughly past 60+ feel so compelled to be so hateful? I mean, is there some sort of thing that once you get past 60, something happens in the brain chemistry that people just tend to process bitterness/anger more readily than things positive?

I see this in some of my own relatives. It’s like there’s a mental short circuit or something, and higher brain function starts to process negativity/bitter/hate often times choosing to process false negativity rather than truth positives.

I say this because I have a relative that watches fox news and cnn news. And while both news tend to lie and distort on different issues, fox news tends to do so by negative lies….cnn tends to lie on false positive lies… But the lies that I see being processed and believed are the falsehoods on Fox News, the hate rhetoric…I got this relative that actually believes 5G can cause covid because he read it on one of the alt-right “news outlets”… This is a guy who studied applied and engineering physics in college….

I don’t get it.[/quote]
I would say the positive vs negative will depend on which side is in the white house. Every time I turn on CNN during Trump, I would get an impression that the sky is falling and now, it’s Fox’s turn.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=an]
I would say the positive vs negative will depend on which side is in the white house. Every time I turn on CNN during Trump, I would get an impression that the sky is falling and now, it’s Fox’s turn.[/quote]

LOL yes its a sad state of affairs where our major news media outlets have basically become propaganda outlets for one extreme view or the other.

Probably the only thing keeping CNN alive is Trump LOL, they don’t really do world news anymore or for the last 5 or so years.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=EconProf]Thanks Flyer, and you are quite right that the move was prompted less by financial motives than other factors.
Commentators on the left and the right agree that the nation is dividing into two geographic directions, or what could be called factions. The big cities, especially coastal ones versus the inland ones, the latter perhaps including the ex-urban parts of all cities.
Given current trends, I want to be part of the inland, more rural part. The culture, politics, and friendliness of the people are entirely different. We will never buy motels to house the homeless and addicted or free repeat-criminals from our jails or teach school children to be race-conscious. We won’t close our schools unnecessarily. Our taxes and fiscal future will stay healthy, crime rates will stay low, and education levels high. Our influx of escaping “refugees” from the woke cities will continue.
As a long-ago liberal–it’s hard to be a college teacher and not be liberal–my entry into the private sector via real estate investing and being a contractor in the inner city gave me a rude awakening.
Of course much of this change is due to simply getting old. As Winston Churchill said, paraphrasing, “To be young and not liberal is to have no heart. To be old and not conservative is to have no head.”[/quote]

What hogwash and intellectual dishonesty. You moved to be near your children and grandchildren. You could’ve just left it at that! If they were here you still would be and you know that. You’re just using your move to be near them as an excuse to bash CA on your way out.[/quote]

utah’s just 1 percent black. maybe utah schools can just teach that there’s such a thing as other races, and work up to race consciousness, since your grandkids probably wont ever actually interact witha black kid at
school. and wait…Utah is NEVER gonna release a repeat offenor from jail? 3 shopliftings and you get life? deadzone will buy a house before you see you’re full of crap! basically, the republicans of utah will talk a good game of “personal responsibility” and instead of actually taking responsibility for its people, they’ll export their problems of their homeless people who fail to get with the program to california, not keep them in utah jails forever. haha! sucks to get old. Us Old people think we have more brains, but really it’s just a narrowing, of the arteries, the heart, the vision for the future.

hunker down in utah old man. keep on believing you’re getting “smarter”. i think old people get crankier and dumber because of aches and pain, general inflammation, and decreased blood flow, and fear, fear based on weakness…a sense that the world is slipping away, out of control, and the only way to ensure predictable safety is to bring the hammer down hard on everyone who presents any risk whatsoever.

[scaredyclassic]

Also, Churchill never said that quote about liberals.

Quotes Falsely Attributed to Winston Churchill

I’m not saying that to be pedantic or be smarter than you. I’m saying your head, and my head, is stuffed full of SHIT that is flat out UNTRUE. For instance your claim that Utah people are FRIENDLIER. Haha

https://sltrib.com/news/education/2020/05/12/utah-dead-last-again-per/

Clearly the state of Utah doesn’t value education with money. Not sure how that bodes for the future. On the bright side, old rich farts like you who decamp with their cali cash what ch they never would’ve made in Utah, don’t have to pay taxes to help the little fuckers in school by way of taxes. Haha. Winning….you get to piss on the state that made you rich, and give none of it back to where you’re going.

Brilliant

I really doubt the neighbors will LOVE a Know it all California professor…

[sdrealtor]

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[scaredyclassic]

interesting website; quoteinvestigator…tries to track down where this liberal/conservative brains heart quote actually came from…

If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain

In 1923 the “Wall Street Journal” credited King Oscar II of Sweden with a version of the remark using the word “socialist” instead of “républicain” or “republican”.

By 1929 the saying had inspired the title of a play: “Before You’re 25” by Kenyon Nicholson which opened in New York and received a lukewarm review by a well-known drama critic:

…..

BUT: the one I like best is playwright george bernard shaw’s version, which basically subverts the meaning you intend…

… a thematically connected statement was made by George Bernard Shaw when he delivered a speech at the University of Hong Kong in 1933:

If you don’t begin to be a revolutionist at the age of twenty then at fifty you will be an impossible old fossil. If you are a red revolutionary at the age of twenty you have some chance of being up to date when you are forty.

So, yeah, you botched not only the attribution of the quote, but its probable actual meaning, which is, move somewhat to the middle from your youthful extreme, or risk becoming a useless old fart who’s stuck in a fairy tale past conservative fantasy land that doesn’t and shouldnt exist.

No one wants to be an “impossible old fossil”, right.

maybe itd be better for you to stay in so cal, where the youth culture, the sun and salt air, the vibrant populace and culture that INFLUENCES THE ENTIRE WORLD has a chance of keeping you out of fossildom!

let me ask you this; if me and Flyer can acquire the international exclusive rights to the property BEFORE YOU’RE 25, the play, would you be willing to finance a production at a local theatre? I can guarantee you 35% of the proceeds from any subsequent movie deal.

I guess at heart I am PROUD of california and hate when people piss on it. Retirement fantasies are for the old, the dying, the fossils.

[Coronita]

note to self…. dont piss off scardey….i didnt think it would be possible…but if one manages to achieve the almost impossibility…boy are you in for an inrefutable rude awakening…

holy sheet….

nice kittycat.. nice kittycat..

[flyer]

scaredy, I’ll have to let you go solo on the play deal. My wife is the movie/play deal maker around our house, and she has more projects than she’ll ever be able to complete in this lifetime. Don’t know if there is a market for the type of project you’re considering, but you never know what might sell.

Personally, I don’t think EP deserves this much venom, just because his views may be different from those held by others. Conflicting views never bother me, because I realize each side always assumes they are absolutely right, which, of course, in and of itself, is a faulty premise. That premise as a given, I just consider the entire discourse on both sides nothing more or less than interesting.

[Anonymous]

I’ve observed many older, retired folks falling into the extreme political propaganda stuff. We all know the Fox news stereotype. But I’ve seen the same thing with my own parents on the liberal side. I think it is a combination of early onset dementia and just not having any real world problems (ie job, family, etc) to deal with.

I sure hope when I am retired I have enough hobbies to keep my mind away from politics.

[Coronita]

[quote=flyer]scaredy, I’ll have to let you go solo on the play deal. My wife is the movie/play deal maker around our house, and she has more projects than she’ll ever be able to complete in this lifetime. Don’t know if there is a market for the type of project you’re considering, but you never know what might sell.

Personally, I don’t think EP deserves this much venom, just because his views may be different from those held by others. Conflicting views never bother me, because I realize each side always assumes they are absolutely right, which, of course, in and of itself, is a faulty premise. That premise as a given, I just consider the entire discourse on both sides nothing more or less than interesting.[/quote]

Work, dealmaker???? pfff….only plebian poor people work…rich people are too busy comparing their yacht sizes…

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