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March 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM #363957March 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM #363378
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Participant[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]I think Butleroftwo’s point is that he’s rich enough he shouldn’t need no steenkin subsidies to green up his house. You and me, on the other hand, can use all the help we can get. (A solar roof system can cost %15,000, for example.)[/quote]
It can cost quite a bit more than $15k… but with rebates/credits it can come down to $10-15k out of pocket.
(We’ve been doing the math, getting the quotes, trying to decide if we’ll pull the trigger. Right now we’re leaning against it untill we buy a plug in EV car… so we don’t have to pay to charge the car.)[quote=Russell]The energy,materials and labor expended and impacts on the planet over time, on a house this size, dwarf any benefits from the effects of going “green” as compared to a reasonably sized reasonably efficient house for two people.I don’t care to judge the standards but the oxymoron is there. The funny thing is these people derive pride from having been certified green.Two people living in Tijuana in a hut made of garage doors are green.
[/quote]I completely agree with this. This house is way too big to be considered efficient for 2 people. It was 4800 sf at the beginning and they’re going up to 6k sf. (Per the article.)
LEED gives points for reusing materials (e.g. the TJ garage doors as a building material)… You can get more LEED points for KEEPING non-green materials than for tearing the non-green stuff and putting in “green” materials.
March 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM #363668Participant[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]I think Butleroftwo’s point is that he’s rich enough he shouldn’t need no steenkin subsidies to green up his house. You and me, on the other hand, can use all the help we can get. (A solar roof system can cost %15,000, for example.)[/quote]
It can cost quite a bit more than $15k… but with rebates/credits it can come down to $10-15k out of pocket.
(We’ve been doing the math, getting the quotes, trying to decide if we’ll pull the trigger. Right now we’re leaning against it untill we buy a plug in EV car… so we don’t have to pay to charge the car.)[quote=Russell]The energy,materials and labor expended and impacts on the planet over time, on a house this size, dwarf any benefits from the effects of going “green” as compared to a reasonably sized reasonably efficient house for two people.I don’t care to judge the standards but the oxymoron is there. The funny thing is these people derive pride from having been certified green.Two people living in Tijuana in a hut made of garage doors are green.
[/quote]I completely agree with this. This house is way too big to be considered efficient for 2 people. It was 4800 sf at the beginning and they’re going up to 6k sf. (Per the article.)
LEED gives points for reusing materials (e.g. the TJ garage doors as a building material)… You can get more LEED points for KEEPING non-green materials than for tearing the non-green stuff and putting in “green” materials.
March 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM #363824Participant[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]I think Butleroftwo’s point is that he’s rich enough he shouldn’t need no steenkin subsidies to green up his house. You and me, on the other hand, can use all the help we can get. (A solar roof system can cost %15,000, for example.)[/quote]
It can cost quite a bit more than $15k… but with rebates/credits it can come down to $10-15k out of pocket.
(We’ve been doing the math, getting the quotes, trying to decide if we’ll pull the trigger. Right now we’re leaning against it untill we buy a plug in EV car… so we don’t have to pay to charge the car.)[quote=Russell]The energy,materials and labor expended and impacts on the planet over time, on a house this size, dwarf any benefits from the effects of going “green” as compared to a reasonably sized reasonably efficient house for two people.I don’t care to judge the standards but the oxymoron is there. The funny thing is these people derive pride from having been certified green.Two people living in Tijuana in a hut made of garage doors are green.
[/quote]I completely agree with this. This house is way too big to be considered efficient for 2 people. It was 4800 sf at the beginning and they’re going up to 6k sf. (Per the article.)
LEED gives points for reusing materials (e.g. the TJ garage doors as a building material)… You can get more LEED points for KEEPING non-green materials than for tearing the non-green stuff and putting in “green” materials.
March 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM #363860Participant[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]I think Butleroftwo’s point is that he’s rich enough he shouldn’t need no steenkin subsidies to green up his house. You and me, on the other hand, can use all the help we can get. (A solar roof system can cost %15,000, for example.)[/quote]
It can cost quite a bit more than $15k… but with rebates/credits it can come down to $10-15k out of pocket.
(We’ve been doing the math, getting the quotes, trying to decide if we’ll pull the trigger. Right now we’re leaning against it untill we buy a plug in EV car… so we don’t have to pay to charge the car.)[quote=Russell]The energy,materials and labor expended and impacts on the planet over time, on a house this size, dwarf any benefits from the effects of going “green” as compared to a reasonably sized reasonably efficient house for two people.I don’t care to judge the standards but the oxymoron is there. The funny thing is these people derive pride from having been certified green.Two people living in Tijuana in a hut made of garage doors are green.
[/quote]I completely agree with this. This house is way too big to be considered efficient for 2 people. It was 4800 sf at the beginning and they’re going up to 6k sf. (Per the article.)
LEED gives points for reusing materials (e.g. the TJ garage doors as a building material)… You can get more LEED points for KEEPING non-green materials than for tearing the non-green stuff and putting in “green” materials.
March 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM #363972Participant[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]I think Butleroftwo’s point is that he’s rich enough he shouldn’t need no steenkin subsidies to green up his house. You and me, on the other hand, can use all the help we can get. (A solar roof system can cost %15,000, for example.)[/quote]
It can cost quite a bit more than $15k… but with rebates/credits it can come down to $10-15k out of pocket.
(We’ve been doing the math, getting the quotes, trying to decide if we’ll pull the trigger. Right now we’re leaning against it untill we buy a plug in EV car… so we don’t have to pay to charge the car.)[quote=Russell]The energy,materials and labor expended and impacts on the planet over time, on a house this size, dwarf any benefits from the effects of going “green” as compared to a reasonably sized reasonably efficient house for two people.I don’t care to judge the standards but the oxymoron is there. The funny thing is these people derive pride from having been certified green.Two people living in Tijuana in a hut made of garage doors are green.
[/quote]I completely agree with this. This house is way too big to be considered efficient for 2 people. It was 4800 sf at the beginning and they’re going up to 6k sf. (Per the article.)
LEED gives points for reusing materials (e.g. the TJ garage doors as a building material)… You can get more LEED points for KEEPING non-green materials than for tearing the non-green stuff and putting in “green” materials.
March 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM #363389ParticipantOn an slightly related note…
Did anyone read the cover article from the reader 3-4 weeks ago, about door to door pesticide service sales… Dreyfuss was mentioned in the article. His wife gave the sales-gal a home grown tomato from their garden.March 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM #363678ParticipantOn an slightly related note…
Did anyone read the cover article from the reader 3-4 weeks ago, about door to door pesticide service sales… Dreyfuss was mentioned in the article. His wife gave the sales-gal a home grown tomato from their garden.March 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM #363834ParticipantOn an slightly related note…
Did anyone read the cover article from the reader 3-4 weeks ago, about door to door pesticide service sales… Dreyfuss was mentioned in the article. His wife gave the sales-gal a home grown tomato from their garden.March 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM #363870ParticipantOn an slightly related note…
Did anyone read the cover article from the reader 3-4 weeks ago, about door to door pesticide service sales… Dreyfuss was mentioned in the article. His wife gave the sales-gal a home grown tomato from their garden.March 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM #363982ParticipantOn an slightly related note…
Did anyone read the cover article from the reader 3-4 weeks ago, about door to door pesticide service sales… Dreyfuss was mentioned in the article. His wife gave the sales-gal a home grown tomato from their garden.March 10, 2009 at 1:32 PM #363408GoUSC
ParticipantOh I see… successful people who want to spend a significant amount of their own money to improve their property are not entitled to the same assistance as everyone else…
March 10, 2009 at 1:32 PM #363698ParticipantOh I see… successful people who want to spend a significant amount of their own money to improve their property are not entitled to the same assistance as everyone else…
March 10, 2009 at 1:32 PM #363854ParticipantOh I see… successful people who want to spend a significant amount of their own money to improve their property are not entitled to the same assistance as everyone else…
March 10, 2009 at 1:32 PM #363890ParticipantOh I see… successful people who want to spend a significant amount of their own money to improve their property are not entitled to the same assistance as everyone else…
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