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  • March 10, 2009 at 3:33 PM #364112
    afx114
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    [quote=macromaniac]these numbers make zero sense….Zero and nobody has that kind of money laying around in cash to blow on solar panels….[/quote]

    Which is exactly why the government has a role in getting the ball rolling via rebates/subsidies/grants/etc — ultimately leading to lower prices that eventually can be afforded by more and more people.

    Call it socialism if you like.

    March 10, 2009 at 3:55 PM #363544
    Butleroftwo
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    With an ROI of 138 years there are many other things that could be stimulated sooner.

    When do you suppose the solar industry will be able to go at it alone? We have been subsidizing them since Carter and still they are too expensive to compete. When people say they don’t pay an electric bill after installing solar they neglect to mention the $30K capital investment.

    March 10, 2009 at 3:55 PM #363832
    Butleroftwo
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    With an ROI of 138 years there are many other things that could be stimulated sooner.

    When do you suppose the solar industry will be able to go at it alone? We have been subsidizing them since Carter and still they are too expensive to compete. When people say they don’t pay an electric bill after installing solar they neglect to mention the $30K capital investment.

    March 10, 2009 at 3:55 PM #363989
    Butleroftwo
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    With an ROI of 138 years there are many other things that could be stimulated sooner.

    When do you suppose the solar industry will be able to go at it alone? We have been subsidizing them since Carter and still they are too expensive to compete. When people say they don’t pay an electric bill after installing solar they neglect to mention the $30K capital investment.

    March 10, 2009 at 3:55 PM #364025
    Butleroftwo
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    With an ROI of 138 years there are many other things that could be stimulated sooner.

    When do you suppose the solar industry will be able to go at it alone? We have been subsidizing them since Carter and still they are too expensive to compete. When people say they don’t pay an electric bill after installing solar they neglect to mention the $30K capital investment.

    March 10, 2009 at 3:55 PM #364137
    Butleroftwo
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    With an ROI of 138 years there are many other things that could be stimulated sooner.

    When do you suppose the solar industry will be able to go at it alone? We have been subsidizing them since Carter and still they are too expensive to compete. When people say they don’t pay an electric bill after installing solar they neglect to mention the $30K capital investment.

    March 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM #363549
    Butleroftwo
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    It’s socialism.

    March 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM #363837
    Butleroftwo
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    It’s socialism.

    March 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM #363994
    Butleroftwo
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    It’s socialism.

    March 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM #364030
    Butleroftwo
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    It’s socialism.

    March 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM #364142
    Butleroftwo
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    It’s socialism.

    March 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM #363554
    afx114
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    [quote=Butleroftwo]When do you suppose the solar industry will be able to go at it alone? We have been subsidizing them since Carter and still they are too expensive to compete. When people say they don’t pay an electric bill after installing solar they neglect to mention the $30K capital investment.[/quote]

    The government has been doing a lot more subsidizing of the oil industry over the decades than it has the solar industry. How do you think we are paying $2/gallon when the rest of the world is paying $6/gallon? That is socialism.

    So if you’re looking for an answer as to why solar is not affordable in this day and age: your socialist government propping up a century-old business model with an imperialistic military that uses over 50% of the national budget in order to secure your beloved crude.

    If we were paying the true un-subsidized price for oil, alternative energy would be a lot more competitive.

    I suppose the national highway system is socialism too?

    March 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM #363842
    afx114
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    [quote=Butleroftwo]When do you suppose the solar industry will be able to go at it alone? We have been subsidizing them since Carter and still they are too expensive to compete. When people say they don’t pay an electric bill after installing solar they neglect to mention the $30K capital investment.[/quote]

    The government has been doing a lot more subsidizing of the oil industry over the decades than it has the solar industry. How do you think we are paying $2/gallon when the rest of the world is paying $6/gallon? That is socialism.

    So if you’re looking for an answer as to why solar is not affordable in this day and age: your socialist government propping up a century-old business model with an imperialistic military that uses over 50% of the national budget in order to secure your beloved crude.

    If we were paying the true un-subsidized price for oil, alternative energy would be a lot more competitive.

    I suppose the national highway system is socialism too?

    March 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM #363999
    afx114
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    [quote=Butleroftwo]When do you suppose the solar industry will be able to go at it alone? We have been subsidizing them since Carter and still they are too expensive to compete. When people say they don’t pay an electric bill after installing solar they neglect to mention the $30K capital investment.[/quote]

    The government has been doing a lot more subsidizing of the oil industry over the decades than it has the solar industry. How do you think we are paying $2/gallon when the rest of the world is paying $6/gallon? That is socialism.

    So if you’re looking for an answer as to why solar is not affordable in this day and age: your socialist government propping up a century-old business model with an imperialistic military that uses over 50% of the national budget in order to secure your beloved crude.

    If we were paying the true un-subsidized price for oil, alternative energy would be a lot more competitive.

    I suppose the national highway system is socialism too?

    March 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM #364035
    afx114
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    [quote=Butleroftwo]When do you suppose the solar industry will be able to go at it alone? We have been subsidizing them since Carter and still they are too expensive to compete. When people say they don’t pay an electric bill after installing solar they neglect to mention the $30K capital investment.[/quote]

    The government has been doing a lot more subsidizing of the oil industry over the decades than it has the solar industry. How do you think we are paying $2/gallon when the rest of the world is paying $6/gallon? That is socialism.

    So if you’re looking for an answer as to why solar is not affordable in this day and age: your socialist government propping up a century-old business model with an imperialistic military that uses over 50% of the national budget in order to secure your beloved crude.

    If we were paying the true un-subsidized price for oil, alternative energy would be a lot more competitive.

    I suppose the national highway system is socialism too?

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