Effect of the election on the housing market

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=afx114]Why do the simpleton ranchers get to have the monopoly on what “real life” is like? Maybe they should leave their comfortable ranches and come see how us city folk live from time to time.

Perhaps Allan hasn’t seen some professors ever leave La Jolla, and while I agree that that’s a bad thing, I’ve certainly never seen an Iowa corn farmer hanging out in downtown either.[/quote]

Afx: That’s a valid point and, like I said, I’m not using it to either explain or excuse right-wing behavior.

Both parties suffer from this illness, but the causes and symptoms are different. I was trying to explain why that element of the Democratic Party doesn’t understand that great swathe of Middle America, and never will. I didn’t address why that great swathe of Middle America doesn’t get them, either. Though, in truth, they really don’t appear to care much (my wife has family in Nebraska, and you’d love their take on NYC, DC and San Francisco). In fairness, I find people in the Midwest to be calmer, more hospitable and not as tied up in materialism or money.

Whether we admit it or not, we’re all partisan and we’re all tribal. You can talk about nuance and critical thinking, but the visceral is a powerful driver, too, and the radical elements in both parties know how to push that button.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=afx114][quote=jstoesz]That is the beauty of strong states and a weak fed. If you live in a NY condo, you shouldn’t have to worry about what some stupid hick from Idaho thinks about something. There is little need for compromise, because one has little influence on the other.[/quote]

Right. Gun control is one example. Gun control to an inner city mother of three is much different than gun control to a Texas rancher. But of course gun rights are one of the fundamental aspects of our federal founding documents, so there’s the rub.[/quote]

Afx: Except… Gun control laws vary differently from state to state (like NYC’s Sullivan Act, for instance) and things like waiting periods and background checks vary widely as well.

California is very different in approach from, say, Nevada or Arizona, as well as in substance, meaning you can acquire damn near anything in Nevada or Arizona, but not so in California.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=afx114][quote=jstoesz]That is the beauty of strong states and a weak fed. If you live in a NY condo, you shouldn’t have to worry about what some stupid hick from Idaho thinks about something. There is little need for compromise, because one has little influence on the other.[/quote]

Right. Gun control is one example. Gun control to an inner city mother of three is much different than gun control to a Texas rancher. But of course gun rights are one of the fundamental aspects of our federal founding documents, so there’s the rub.[/quote]

Afx: Except… Gun control laws vary differently from state to state (like NYC’s Sullivan Act, for instance) and things like waiting periods and background checks vary widely as well.

California is very different in approach from, say, Nevada or Arizona, as well as in substance, meaning you can acquire damn near anything in Nevada or Arizona, but not so in California.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=afx114][quote=jstoesz]That is the beauty of strong states and a weak fed. If you live in a NY condo, you shouldn’t have to worry about what some stupid hick from Idaho thinks about something. There is little need for compromise, because one has little influence on the other.[/quote]

Right. Gun control is one example. Gun control to an inner city mother of three is much different than gun control to a Texas rancher. But of course gun rights are one of the fundamental aspects of our federal founding documents, so there’s the rub.[/quote]

Afx: Except… Gun control laws vary differently from state to state (like NYC’s Sullivan Act, for instance) and things like waiting periods and background checks vary widely as well.

California is very different in approach from, say, Nevada or Arizona, as well as in substance, meaning you can acquire damn near anything in Nevada or Arizona, but not so in California.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=afx114][quote=jstoesz]That is the beauty of strong states and a weak fed. If you live in a NY condo, you shouldn’t have to worry about what some stupid hick from Idaho thinks about something. There is little need for compromise, because one has little influence on the other.[/quote]

Right. Gun control is one example. Gun control to an inner city mother of three is much different than gun control to a Texas rancher. But of course gun rights are one of the fundamental aspects of our federal founding documents, so there’s the rub.[/quote]

Afx: Except… Gun control laws vary differently from state to state (like NYC’s Sullivan Act, for instance) and things like waiting periods and background checks vary widely as well.

California is very different in approach from, say, Nevada or Arizona, as well as in substance, meaning you can acquire damn near anything in Nevada or Arizona, but not so in California.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=afx114][quote=jstoesz]That is the beauty of strong states and a weak fed. If you live in a NY condo, you shouldn’t have to worry about what some stupid hick from Idaho thinks about something. There is little need for compromise, because one has little influence on the other.[/quote]

Right. Gun control is one example. Gun control to an inner city mother of three is much different than gun control to a Texas rancher. But of course gun rights are one of the fundamental aspects of our federal founding documents, so there’s the rub.[/quote]

Afx: Except… Gun control laws vary differently from state to state (like NYC’s Sullivan Act, for instance) and things like waiting periods and background checks vary widely as well.

California is very different in approach from, say, Nevada or Arizona, as well as in substance, meaning you can acquire damn near anything in Nevada or Arizona, but not so in California.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook] the barbarians are already at the gates. And, in two years, they’ll be inside.[/quote]

Barbarians may have some internal struggles to deal with in those next two years:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021350-503544.html

advisers to top potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates are united in their desire to stop Sarah Palin from winning the presidential nomination out of a fear that she would lose badly in the general election.[/quote]

Did she really use the term “anti-dentite” in her email?

Putting aside its rather odd placement in her stream of vitriol against Politico reporters……is this another Sarah Palin made-up word or did she steal it from Jerry Seinfeld?

[eavesdropper]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook] the barbarians are already at the gates. And, in two years, they’ll be inside.[/quote]

Barbarians may have some internal struggles to deal with in those next two years:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021350-503544.html

advisers to top potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates are united in their desire to stop Sarah Palin from winning the presidential nomination out of a fear that she would lose badly in the general election.[/quote]

Did she really use the term “anti-dentite” in her email?

Putting aside its rather odd placement in her stream of vitriol against Politico reporters……is this another Sarah Palin made-up word or did she steal it from Jerry Seinfeld?

[eavesdropper]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook] the barbarians are already at the gates. And, in two years, they’ll be inside.[/quote]

Barbarians may have some internal struggles to deal with in those next two years:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021350-503544.html

advisers to top potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates are united in their desire to stop Sarah Palin from winning the presidential nomination out of a fear that she would lose badly in the general election.[/quote]

Did she really use the term “anti-dentite” in her email?

Putting aside its rather odd placement in her stream of vitriol against Politico reporters……is this another Sarah Palin made-up word or did she steal it from Jerry Seinfeld?

[eavesdropper]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook] the barbarians are already at the gates. And, in two years, they’ll be inside.[/quote]

Barbarians may have some internal struggles to deal with in those next two years:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021350-503544.html

advisers to top potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates are united in their desire to stop Sarah Palin from winning the presidential nomination out of a fear that she would lose badly in the general election.[/quote]

Did she really use the term “anti-dentite” in her email?

Putting aside its rather odd placement in her stream of vitriol against Politico reporters……is this another Sarah Palin made-up word or did she steal it from Jerry Seinfeld?

[eavesdropper]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook] the barbarians are already at the gates. And, in two years, they’ll be inside.[/quote]

Barbarians may have some internal struggles to deal with in those next two years:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021350-503544.html

advisers to top potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates are united in their desire to stop Sarah Palin from winning the presidential nomination out of a fear that she would lose badly in the general election.[/quote]

Did she really use the term “anti-dentite” in her email?

Putting aside its rather odd placement in her stream of vitriol against Politico reporters……is this another Sarah Palin made-up word or did she steal it from Jerry Seinfeld?

[Arraya]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]

Speaking of radicals, give Blom’s newest a look when you have a moment: http://www.amazon.com/Wicked-Company-Forgotten-Radicalism-Enlightenment/dp/0465014534/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2
.[/quote]

Nice, right up my alley.

My latest,

False Dawn: The Delusions of Global Capitalism

Straw Dogs: Thoughts on Humans and Other Animals

Black Mass: Apocalyptic Religion and the Death of Utopia

[Arraya]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]

Speaking of radicals, give Blom’s newest a look when you have a moment: http://www.amazon.com/Wicked-Company-Forgotten-Radicalism-Enlightenment/dp/0465014534/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2
.[/quote]

Nice, right up my alley.

My latest,

False Dawn: The Delusions of Global Capitalism

Straw Dogs: Thoughts on Humans and Other Animals

Black Mass: Apocalyptic Religion and the Death of Utopia

[Arraya]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]

Speaking of radicals, give Blom’s newest a look when you have a moment: http://www.amazon.com/Wicked-Company-Forgotten-Radicalism-Enlightenment/dp/0465014534/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2
.[/quote]

Nice, right up my alley.

My latest,

False Dawn: The Delusions of Global Capitalism

Straw Dogs: Thoughts on Humans and Other Animals

Black Mass: Apocalyptic Religion and the Death of Utopia

[Arraya]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]

Speaking of radicals, give Blom’s newest a look when you have a moment: http://www.amazon.com/Wicked-Company-Forgotten-Radicalism-Enlightenment/dp/0465014534/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2
.[/quote]

Nice, right up my alley.

My latest,

False Dawn: The Delusions of Global Capitalism

Straw Dogs: Thoughts on Humans and Other Animals

Black Mass: Apocalyptic Religion and the Death of Utopia

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