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November 5, 2010 at 4:35 AM #628094November 5, 2010 at 6:14 AM #627031AnonymousGuest
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] the barbarians are already at the gates. And, in two years, they’ll be inside.[/quote]
Barbarians may have some internal struggles to deal with in those next two years:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021350-503544.html
advisers to top potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates are united in their desire to stop Sarah Palin from winning the presidential nomination out of a fear that she would lose badly in the general election.
November 5, 2010 at 6:14 AM #627109AnonymousGuest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] the barbarians are already at the gates. And, in two years, they’ll be inside.[/quote]
Barbarians may have some internal struggles to deal with in those next two years:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021350-503544.html
advisers to top potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates are united in their desire to stop Sarah Palin from winning the presidential nomination out of a fear that she would lose badly in the general election.
November 5, 2010 at 6:14 AM #627665AnonymousGuest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] the barbarians are already at the gates. And, in two years, they’ll be inside.[/quote]
Barbarians may have some internal struggles to deal with in those next two years:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021350-503544.html
advisers to top potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates are united in their desire to stop Sarah Palin from winning the presidential nomination out of a fear that she would lose badly in the general election.
November 5, 2010 at 6:14 AM #627790AnonymousGuest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] the barbarians are already at the gates. And, in two years, they’ll be inside.[/quote]
Barbarians may have some internal struggles to deal with in those next two years:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021350-503544.html
advisers to top potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates are united in their desire to stop Sarah Palin from winning the presidential nomination out of a fear that she would lose badly in the general election.
November 5, 2010 at 6:14 AM #628099AnonymousGuest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] the barbarians are already at the gates. And, in two years, they’ll be inside.[/quote]
Barbarians may have some internal struggles to deal with in those next two years:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021350-503544.html
advisers to top potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates are united in their desire to stop Sarah Palin from winning the presidential nomination out of a fear that she would lose badly in the general election.
November 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM #627106briansd1Guest[quote=Arraya]
There is a fundamental disconnect with what is simplistically called the “Liberal Elite” and the rest of the country.
No, Allen, it’s just the “elite” and they only have one ideology – to maintain and gain more power and control. And, yes, the disconnect is huge.[/quote]
I have to agree with Arraya.
Conservatives dismiss university professors and intellectuals as the “liberal elite” but they lose sight of the real elite; you know, those elite who can drop $50,000 on a single charter flight without batting an eyelash.
As my proof, the estate tax which affects only 5,500 of the very elite is reviled by conservatives who make it their top legislative priority. And the Tea Party foot soldiers are marching and sweating at rallies waving signs that read “kill the death tax.”
So conservatives disparage those who have education but are really just part of the professional middle-class as the “out of touch elite”; and they protect those who live in in splendor in their virtual Versailles (thanks Arraya for the analogy).
My guess it that the conservative elite is not out touch at all; they are just very good at using their little people to their own personal gains. Their foot soldiers are being brainwashed that intellectuals and academics on university professors’ salaries are against them.
In reality, the people who understand well what is really going on in our country are those who educate themselves, develop critical thinking and study our society.
The people really out of touch with reality are the right-wing foot soldiers who believe that academics are part of the elite.
November 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM #627184briansd1Guest[quote=Arraya]
There is a fundamental disconnect with what is simplistically called the “Liberal Elite” and the rest of the country.
No, Allen, it’s just the “elite” and they only have one ideology – to maintain and gain more power and control. And, yes, the disconnect is huge.[/quote]
I have to agree with Arraya.
Conservatives dismiss university professors and intellectuals as the “liberal elite” but they lose sight of the real elite; you know, those elite who can drop $50,000 on a single charter flight without batting an eyelash.
As my proof, the estate tax which affects only 5,500 of the very elite is reviled by conservatives who make it their top legislative priority. And the Tea Party foot soldiers are marching and sweating at rallies waving signs that read “kill the death tax.”
So conservatives disparage those who have education but are really just part of the professional middle-class as the “out of touch elite”; and they protect those who live in in splendor in their virtual Versailles (thanks Arraya for the analogy).
My guess it that the conservative elite is not out touch at all; they are just very good at using their little people to their own personal gains. Their foot soldiers are being brainwashed that intellectuals and academics on university professors’ salaries are against them.
In reality, the people who understand well what is really going on in our country are those who educate themselves, develop critical thinking and study our society.
The people really out of touch with reality are the right-wing foot soldiers who believe that academics are part of the elite.
November 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM #627739briansd1Guest[quote=Arraya]
There is a fundamental disconnect with what is simplistically called the “Liberal Elite” and the rest of the country.
No, Allen, it’s just the “elite” and they only have one ideology – to maintain and gain more power and control. And, yes, the disconnect is huge.[/quote]
I have to agree with Arraya.
Conservatives dismiss university professors and intellectuals as the “liberal elite” but they lose sight of the real elite; you know, those elite who can drop $50,000 on a single charter flight without batting an eyelash.
As my proof, the estate tax which affects only 5,500 of the very elite is reviled by conservatives who make it their top legislative priority. And the Tea Party foot soldiers are marching and sweating at rallies waving signs that read “kill the death tax.”
So conservatives disparage those who have education but are really just part of the professional middle-class as the “out of touch elite”; and they protect those who live in in splendor in their virtual Versailles (thanks Arraya for the analogy).
My guess it that the conservative elite is not out touch at all; they are just very good at using their little people to their own personal gains. Their foot soldiers are being brainwashed that intellectuals and academics on university professors’ salaries are against them.
In reality, the people who understand well what is really going on in our country are those who educate themselves, develop critical thinking and study our society.
The people really out of touch with reality are the right-wing foot soldiers who believe that academics are part of the elite.
November 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM #627863briansd1Guest[quote=Arraya]
There is a fundamental disconnect with what is simplistically called the “Liberal Elite” and the rest of the country.
No, Allen, it’s just the “elite” and they only have one ideology – to maintain and gain more power and control. And, yes, the disconnect is huge.[/quote]
I have to agree with Arraya.
Conservatives dismiss university professors and intellectuals as the “liberal elite” but they lose sight of the real elite; you know, those elite who can drop $50,000 on a single charter flight without batting an eyelash.
As my proof, the estate tax which affects only 5,500 of the very elite is reviled by conservatives who make it their top legislative priority. And the Tea Party foot soldiers are marching and sweating at rallies waving signs that read “kill the death tax.”
So conservatives disparage those who have education but are really just part of the professional middle-class as the “out of touch elite”; and they protect those who live in in splendor in their virtual Versailles (thanks Arraya for the analogy).
My guess it that the conservative elite is not out touch at all; they are just very good at using their little people to their own personal gains. Their foot soldiers are being brainwashed that intellectuals and academics on university professors’ salaries are against them.
In reality, the people who understand well what is really going on in our country are those who educate themselves, develop critical thinking and study our society.
The people really out of touch with reality are the right-wing foot soldiers who believe that academics are part of the elite.
November 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM #628173briansd1Guest[quote=Arraya]
There is a fundamental disconnect with what is simplistically called the “Liberal Elite” and the rest of the country.
No, Allen, it’s just the “elite” and they only have one ideology – to maintain and gain more power and control. And, yes, the disconnect is huge.[/quote]
I have to agree with Arraya.
Conservatives dismiss university professors and intellectuals as the “liberal elite” but they lose sight of the real elite; you know, those elite who can drop $50,000 on a single charter flight without batting an eyelash.
As my proof, the estate tax which affects only 5,500 of the very elite is reviled by conservatives who make it their top legislative priority. And the Tea Party foot soldiers are marching and sweating at rallies waving signs that read “kill the death tax.”
So conservatives disparage those who have education but are really just part of the professional middle-class as the “out of touch elite”; and they protect those who live in in splendor in their virtual Versailles (thanks Arraya for the analogy).
My guess it that the conservative elite is not out touch at all; they are just very good at using their little people to their own personal gains. Their foot soldiers are being brainwashed that intellectuals and academics on university professors’ salaries are against them.
In reality, the people who understand well what is really going on in our country are those who educate themselves, develop critical thinking and study our society.
The people really out of touch with reality are the right-wing foot soldiers who believe that academics are part of the elite.
November 5, 2010 at 9:50 AM #627131Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=Arraya]
There is a fundamental disconnect with what is simplistically called the “Liberal Elite” and the rest of the country.
No, Allen, it’s just the “elite” and they only have one ideology – to maintain and gain more power and control. And, yes, the disconnect is huge.[/quote]
Arraya: Completely agree. In this case, I was simply discussing the disconnect that occurs from the Left. As I mentioned above, both parties have been subsumed/co-opted, and by their more radical and/or wealthier elements (think Big Biz/Big Oil for the GOP and organized labor/Trial Lawyers Assn for the Dems).
Speaking of radicals, give Blom’s newest a look when you have a moment: http://www.amazon.com/Wicked-Company-Forgotten-Radicalism-Enlightenment/dp/0465014534/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2
And, speaking of good historical revisionism: http://www.amazon.com/Bloodlands-Europe-Between-Hitler-Stalin/dp/0465002390/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2. This is one of the best books I’ve read on Hitler and Stalin in a while and it is true revisionism. I’m sure its going to inspire some howls, especially amongst the more hidebound historians, but the supporting research is impeccable.
November 5, 2010 at 9:50 AM #627208Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=Arraya]
There is a fundamental disconnect with what is simplistically called the “Liberal Elite” and the rest of the country.
No, Allen, it’s just the “elite” and they only have one ideology – to maintain and gain more power and control. And, yes, the disconnect is huge.[/quote]
Arraya: Completely agree. In this case, I was simply discussing the disconnect that occurs from the Left. As I mentioned above, both parties have been subsumed/co-opted, and by their more radical and/or wealthier elements (think Big Biz/Big Oil for the GOP and organized labor/Trial Lawyers Assn for the Dems).
Speaking of radicals, give Blom’s newest a look when you have a moment: http://www.amazon.com/Wicked-Company-Forgotten-Radicalism-Enlightenment/dp/0465014534/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2
And, speaking of good historical revisionism: http://www.amazon.com/Bloodlands-Europe-Between-Hitler-Stalin/dp/0465002390/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2. This is one of the best books I’ve read on Hitler and Stalin in a while and it is true revisionism. I’m sure its going to inspire some howls, especially amongst the more hidebound historians, but the supporting research is impeccable.
November 5, 2010 at 9:50 AM #627764Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=Arraya]
There is a fundamental disconnect with what is simplistically called the “Liberal Elite” and the rest of the country.
No, Allen, it’s just the “elite” and they only have one ideology – to maintain and gain more power and control. And, yes, the disconnect is huge.[/quote]
Arraya: Completely agree. In this case, I was simply discussing the disconnect that occurs from the Left. As I mentioned above, both parties have been subsumed/co-opted, and by their more radical and/or wealthier elements (think Big Biz/Big Oil for the GOP and organized labor/Trial Lawyers Assn for the Dems).
Speaking of radicals, give Blom’s newest a look when you have a moment: http://www.amazon.com/Wicked-Company-Forgotten-Radicalism-Enlightenment/dp/0465014534/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2
And, speaking of good historical revisionism: http://www.amazon.com/Bloodlands-Europe-Between-Hitler-Stalin/dp/0465002390/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2. This is one of the best books I’ve read on Hitler and Stalin in a while and it is true revisionism. I’m sure its going to inspire some howls, especially amongst the more hidebound historians, but the supporting research is impeccable.
November 5, 2010 at 9:50 AM #627888Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=Arraya]
There is a fundamental disconnect with what is simplistically called the “Liberal Elite” and the rest of the country.
No, Allen, it’s just the “elite” and they only have one ideology – to maintain and gain more power and control. And, yes, the disconnect is huge.[/quote]
Arraya: Completely agree. In this case, I was simply discussing the disconnect that occurs from the Left. As I mentioned above, both parties have been subsumed/co-opted, and by their more radical and/or wealthier elements (think Big Biz/Big Oil for the GOP and organized labor/Trial Lawyers Assn for the Dems).
Speaking of radicals, give Blom’s newest a look when you have a moment: http://www.amazon.com/Wicked-Company-Forgotten-Radicalism-Enlightenment/dp/0465014534/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2
And, speaking of good historical revisionism: http://www.amazon.com/Bloodlands-Europe-Between-Hitler-Stalin/dp/0465002390/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp_T2. This is one of the best books I’ve read on Hitler and Stalin in a while and it is true revisionism. I’m sure its going to inspire some howls, especially amongst the more hidebound historians, but the supporting research is impeccable.
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