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[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]At least I provided facts that conservatism and evangelical religiosity are joined at the hip.

Show me how liberal means French socialist (since you guys like to tell us to move to France so much).

BTW, good intent is always better than bad intent. For example, wanting to improve employment standards is better than wanting to roll them back.[/quote]

Brian: Again, mistruths, half-truths and outright untruths litter your little epigram above.

As ucodegen pointed out and proved, you did NOT provide any such facts. Rather, you showed that some 50% of the participants are NOT affiliated with evangelical Christianity (like me).

And, if you’ll recall, I did NOT say move to France for its Socialistic ways, I opined that the poster should move to France to see, first-hand, the results of their policies and programs over the last four to five decades.

You cherry pick from the various responses and either ignore (or editorialize) certain elements of the response, or twist yourself into a pretzel trying to prove your convoluted “logic”.

True conservatives are not trying to “roll back time” with “bad intent”. Rather, we argue for smaller government, with a strong emphasis on self-government. You cannot look to the inner cities of America, and argue with a straight face that 50 some years of social engineering on the part of the government has worked. Given black-on-black violence, teenage and out-of-wedlock pregnancies and the complete destruction of the two parent black family, social programs have proved an unmitigated disaster.

Moreover, the tone and tenor of so-called “Progressives” is paternalistic and patronizing and their actions are intrusive and unwanted. I do not want nor do I need the United States Government to tell me how to live my life. As long as my actions do not impinge on the rights of others, leave me the hell alone.

People like you always think they know better, and if only the poor, beknighted, huddled masses would simply listen, everything would be okay. That isn’t life. That’s a twisted fairy tale and every government that has tried, using various methods, to “help” its citizenry using social engineering, has failed utterly.

[DWCAP]

[quote=briansd1]At least I provided facts that conservatism and evangelical religiosity are joined at the hip.[/quote]

Sigh, no you didnt. You disproved your own stance.

1) The issues you seem to hinge your argument on, are from a quote from the poll director, “a self identified progressive.”
[quote]”The way the data looks, if this is a marriage of convenience, it’s one that would be against the law. The relatives are too close,” said Jones, a self-described progressive[/quote]

Lets poll the *Republican* (edit, democratic) party, and see how they feel about MoveOn.org . And lets put a Republican incharge of it. See what they find and how they spin it.

2) Half of evengelical people are NOT identified with the Tea Party. Your own quote calls the groups contradictory. Half of evengelicals are not supporters of the tea party, and half are. The Tea Party also pulls half its members from non-evangelicals.
Your gonna have to explain to me how that is joined at the hip when 1 out of 2 of both groups dont self identify with each other.

3) your own article talks about the fact these people are united in their opposition to the, currently controlling left wing of the Democratic party, not some kind of unifing ideology. IF and when they are replaced, this group will likley turn on itself. This is what they are united in, oppisition to a liberal government.

And “the road to hell is paved in good intentions” is a quote that needs to be given to every public servant on day 1.

[DWCAP]

[quote=briansd1]At least I provided facts that conservatism and evangelical religiosity are joined at the hip.[/quote]

Sigh, no you didnt. You disproved your own stance.

1) The issues you seem to hinge your argument on, are from a quote from the poll director, “a self identified progressive.”
[quote]”The way the data looks, if this is a marriage of convenience, it’s one that would be against the law. The relatives are too close,” said Jones, a self-described progressive[/quote]

Lets poll the *Republican* (edit, democratic) party, and see how they feel about MoveOn.org . And lets put a Republican incharge of it. See what they find and how they spin it.

2) Half of evengelical people are NOT identified with the Tea Party. Your own quote calls the groups contradictory. Half of evengelicals are not supporters of the tea party, and half are. The Tea Party also pulls half its members from non-evangelicals.
Your gonna have to explain to me how that is joined at the hip when 1 out of 2 of both groups dont self identify with each other.

3) your own article talks about the fact these people are united in their opposition to the, currently controlling left wing of the Democratic party, not some kind of unifing ideology. IF and when they are replaced, this group will likley turn on itself. This is what they are united in, oppisition to a liberal government.

And “the road to hell is paved in good intentions” is a quote that needs to be given to every public servant on day 1.

[DWCAP]

[quote=briansd1]At least I provided facts that conservatism and evangelical religiosity are joined at the hip.[/quote]

Sigh, no you didnt. You disproved your own stance.

1) The issues you seem to hinge your argument on, are from a quote from the poll director, “a self identified progressive.”
[quote]”The way the data looks, if this is a marriage of convenience, it’s one that would be against the law. The relatives are too close,” said Jones, a self-described progressive[/quote]

Lets poll the *Republican* (edit, democratic) party, and see how they feel about MoveOn.org . And lets put a Republican incharge of it. See what they find and how they spin it.

2) Half of evengelical people are NOT identified with the Tea Party. Your own quote calls the groups contradictory. Half of evengelicals are not supporters of the tea party, and half are. The Tea Party also pulls half its members from non-evangelicals.
Your gonna have to explain to me how that is joined at the hip when 1 out of 2 of both groups dont self identify with each other.

3) your own article talks about the fact these people are united in their opposition to the, currently controlling left wing of the Democratic party, not some kind of unifing ideology. IF and when they are replaced, this group will likley turn on itself. This is what they are united in, oppisition to a liberal government.

And “the road to hell is paved in good intentions” is a quote that needs to be given to every public servant on day 1.

[DWCAP]

[quote=briansd1]At least I provided facts that conservatism and evangelical religiosity are joined at the hip.[/quote]

Sigh, no you didnt. You disproved your own stance.

1) The issues you seem to hinge your argument on, are from a quote from the poll director, “a self identified progressive.”
[quote]”The way the data looks, if this is a marriage of convenience, it’s one that would be against the law. The relatives are too close,” said Jones, a self-described progressive[/quote]

Lets poll the *Republican* (edit, democratic) party, and see how they feel about MoveOn.org . And lets put a Republican incharge of it. See what they find and how they spin it.

2) Half of evengelical people are NOT identified with the Tea Party. Your own quote calls the groups contradictory. Half of evengelicals are not supporters of the tea party, and half are. The Tea Party also pulls half its members from non-evangelicals.
Your gonna have to explain to me how that is joined at the hip when 1 out of 2 of both groups dont self identify with each other.

3) your own article talks about the fact these people are united in their opposition to the, currently controlling left wing of the Democratic party, not some kind of unifing ideology. IF and when they are replaced, this group will likley turn on itself. This is what they are united in, oppisition to a liberal government.

And “the road to hell is paved in good intentions” is a quote that needs to be given to every public servant on day 1.

[DWCAP]

[quote=briansd1]At least I provided facts that conservatism and evangelical religiosity are joined at the hip.[/quote]

Sigh, no you didnt. You disproved your own stance.

1) The issues you seem to hinge your argument on, are from a quote from the poll director, “a self identified progressive.”
[quote]”The way the data looks, if this is a marriage of convenience, it’s one that would be against the law. The relatives are too close,” said Jones, a self-described progressive[/quote]

Lets poll the *Republican* (edit, democratic) party, and see how they feel about MoveOn.org . And lets put a Republican incharge of it. See what they find and how they spin it.

2) Half of evengelical people are NOT identified with the Tea Party. Your own quote calls the groups contradictory. Half of evengelicals are not supporters of the tea party, and half are. The Tea Party also pulls half its members from non-evangelicals.
Your gonna have to explain to me how that is joined at the hip when 1 out of 2 of both groups dont self identify with each other.

3) your own article talks about the fact these people are united in their opposition to the, currently controlling left wing of the Democratic party, not some kind of unifing ideology. IF and when they are replaced, this group will likley turn on itself. This is what they are united in, oppisition to a liberal government.

And “the road to hell is paved in good intentions” is a quote that needs to be given to every public servant on day 1.

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