Civil Unions

[powayseller]

What sorts of problems occur from female deployment?

[lostkitty]

Pregnancies.

[Anonymous]

10% became pregnant during one deployment on one ship:

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040615-115647-8125r.htm

Pregnancy messes up watch schedules — ships operate 24 hours per day, seven days per week — as the women are often put on limited duty, then removed from ship, and sometimes not immediately replaced after they are removed.  Then, there's the competition for the 'attention' of the women.

Big distraction and needless complication.

 

[Anonymous]

There are a lot of gay parents out there. Before you make the judgment that they are unfit, maybe you should talk to the kids being raised by gay parents. Unfortunately, you can’t pick them out in a crowd. Because they look like every other kid out there.

In fact, my girls may be sharing a college dorm room with your kids (except they’ll get there on a full scholarship–I have very smart kids). Don’t allow your kids to lose respect for your opinions because of your sterotypes. Be pround of your background, your values, but your kids will decide their future, not you.

Funny thing is, my kids don’t face the predjudice that many feel is somehow expected. They have friends, are school leaders, and straight A students. It just never comes up. I’m a stay at home mom right now, while my partner supports the family very well but is taxed as a single person–can’t claim the kids even though she supports them. This means on average we pay more than $5k to $10k a year in taxes than hetero couples. That could be their college fund, but it goes to the Gay Family Penalty Tax instead. So my children are hurt by institutionalized prejudice, not societal.

Call it what ever you like. Just fix the federal and state tax laws not to penalize my family. And feel free to ask any questions you might have.

[PerryChase]

Don’t allow your kids to lose respect for your opinions because of your sterotypes. Be proud of your background, your values, but your kids will decide their future, not you.

Well said kristinejm. Nowadays, kids are developing a sense of fairness that’s not compatible with the prejudices of the past.   I wouldn’t be surprised if gays were generally better parents because they planned their families (unlike straights whose babies appear at inopportune times). 

[sdcellar]

Awesome generalization PC. Tell me you’ve never seen or heard of a couple (gay or straight) that treated the adoption of a child like the purchase of a new car or pet.

Thankfully, the ones I’ve witnessed didn’t go through with it.

[Anonymous]

I have never ever seen a gay couple treat an adoption like a purchase. It is just way to hard a thing to do. You put yourself on trial, trying to prove to social workers and the state just how spectacular and devoted a parent you will be to compensate for your “lifestyle”. And then, when you become a parent, you lose the gay community. Who would send their kids to school in Hillcrest? You end up with a mini-van in the suburbs and do laundry on Friday nights wondering what in the hell is so alternative about your lifestyle anyway.

Doesn’t sound like the Fall of Western Civilization, does it?

[sdcellar]

Well, I have, so I guess that makes us even? Maybe it’s the process that makes the less than committed adoptive parents bail out, so that’s at least encouraging.

You might note that I said gay or straight, so I’m not even arguing that, rather the point that adoptive parents are better suited to rearing children than natural (?) parents.

[Anonymous]

We can call it even. I myself have never had to go through the adoptive process because my girls are mine, the old fashioned “hetero” way (though my sister and her husband adopted). I used to be a social worker in foster care, and while rare, I always thought the kids who were adopted then given back to state because the parents couldn’t handle them were the most tragic.

[no_such_reality]

I’m an old fashioned conservative. I think churches should be stripped of their tax free exemption and treated as a corporation under corporate law for tax purposes.

I also think that donations to a church should not be tax deductible unless like other charities, they demostrate how much of their funds go to charitible programs and thus qualify as a tax deductible charity.

As for civil unions or marriages between consenting adults, I don’t care.

[sdcellar]

kristinejm– I seemed to recall you’d gone the “hetero” route!

and yes, that is very tragic. Also, just want to be clear that I am impressed with a large number of adoptive parents and even moreso by those who actually take on special needs children. I’ve known a few couples who’ve done that and they are frankly amazing people in my opinion.

[PerryChase]

nsr, you’re the best kind of conservative. I totally agree with you.

Currently churches don’t have to show that they spend anything on charity. Donations could be spent building that $50 million mega-church, a fat salary for the pastor, a Mercedes for his wife, and of course a luxury apartment for the pastor’s mistress (or boyfriend).

Churches should be treated like any other charity. They need to be accountable to the public.

[Anonymous]

Perry, you are right, and I heartily recommend that you pull strings to ensure the following issues are addressed by Congress over the next two years:

(1) Revisiting tax-exempt status of churches

(2) Moving to a single payer health care system

(3) Ensuring that gays can freely and openly serve in the military

(4) 'Strategically redeploying' our troops out of Iraq within 4-6 months

(5) Enshrining civil unions as the law of the land.

Please ensure that Hillary and Barack lead the charge, too.  I want to them to properly receive full credit.

KJM, on average, having gay parents is not a good thing:  29% of the kids suffer molestation (incest) vs. <1% for the children of heterosexual parents; the suicide rate for same sex relationships is 6.5 times that for controls; daughters of lesbian parents had sex earlier/more frequently/with more partners than daughters with heterosexual parents.

http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/DaileyGayAdopt.php

Social conservatives believe that the welfare of children is of paramount importance.  Anecdotally, there may be loving gays who are great parents.  But, from a public policy perspective, with those gay parent suicide rates, rates of incest, and higher out-of-wedlock sexual activity, why in the world would policymakers make that an option?  Just to make gays feel better?

I'm adopted, by a heterosexual couple, and thank God frequently for the sacrifices that they made to adopt and raise me.

[Anonymous]

Hey, who can argue with this organization, The American College of Pediatricians?

http://www.acpeds.org/?CONTEXT=art&cat=10005&art=50&BISKIT=694949696

Great name for a focused group:  kind of like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, People for the American Way, and the National Council of Churches (all communists, communist fronts, or communist leaning organizations).

 

[Anonymous]

Hmmm. Orthodoxy Today. I’m sure I could go through the link, and give a shot at refuting it, but why bother? My family is merely an anecdote.

I thank God frequently that I don’t live in a country where public policy decisions are based on evidence gleened from Orthodoxy Today.

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