California Special Election

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[quote=4plexowner]

damn this is depressing …[/quote]

Whoa, that’s exactly what I was thinking just before seeing that line!

As for Prop 13, it protecting poor little ladies like Allan’s friend Sen Diane from losing her home.

[jonnycsd]

California ranks among the top ten states with the highest tax burdens placed on its citizens and has been there for DECADES, even with Prop 13.

Here are the numbers to compare California taxes with other states.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/443.html

The state is raising plenty of money through taxes, what needs to be cut is spending.

(BTW, the CA numbers dont include MeloRoos, which should be included as they were created by the legislature as a way to get around Prop 13s restrictions – in most every other state the things MRs pay for are funded out of taxes.)

[jonnycsd]

California ranks among the top ten states with the highest tax burdens placed on its citizens and has been there for DECADES, even with Prop 13.

Here are the numbers to compare California taxes with other states.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/443.html

The state is raising plenty of money through taxes, what needs to be cut is spending.

(BTW, the CA numbers dont include MeloRoos, which should be included as they were created by the legislature as a way to get around Prop 13s restrictions – in most every other state the things MRs pay for are funded out of taxes.)

[jonnycsd]

California ranks among the top ten states with the highest tax burdens placed on its citizens and has been there for DECADES, even with Prop 13.

Here are the numbers to compare California taxes with other states.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/443.html

The state is raising plenty of money through taxes, what needs to be cut is spending.

(BTW, the CA numbers dont include MeloRoos, which should be included as they were created by the legislature as a way to get around Prop 13s restrictions – in most every other state the things MRs pay for are funded out of taxes.)

[jonnycsd]

California ranks among the top ten states with the highest tax burdens placed on its citizens and has been there for DECADES, even with Prop 13.

Here are the numbers to compare California taxes with other states.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/443.html

The state is raising plenty of money through taxes, what needs to be cut is spending.

(BTW, the CA numbers dont include MeloRoos, which should be included as they were created by the legislature as a way to get around Prop 13s restrictions – in most every other state the things MRs pay for are funded out of taxes.)

[jonnycsd]

California ranks among the top ten states with the highest tax burdens placed on its citizens and has been there for DECADES, even with Prop 13.

Here are the numbers to compare California taxes with other states.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/443.html

The state is raising plenty of money through taxes, what needs to be cut is spending.

(BTW, the CA numbers dont include MeloRoos, which should be included as they were created by the legislature as a way to get around Prop 13s restrictions – in most every other state the things MRs pay for are funded out of taxes.)

[CA renter]

Personally, I see Mello-Roos NOT as a way around Prop 13, but rather as a way for developers to overpay landowners for raw land.

The expenses covered by Mello-Roos should be covered by the developers/builders, and should be factored into their cost basis when doing feasibility studies. They should determine the price they can pay for the land based on these costs.

We have been subsidizing landowners for far to long. End-consumers should not have to pay for the foolishness of the developers/builders. This overpayment is enabled by the lax credit market and housing subsidies.

[CA renter]

Personally, I see Mello-Roos NOT as a way around Prop 13, but rather as a way for developers to overpay landowners for raw land.

The expenses covered by Mello-Roos should be covered by the developers/builders, and should be factored into their cost basis when doing feasibility studies. They should determine the price they can pay for the land based on these costs.

We have been subsidizing landowners for far to long. End-consumers should not have to pay for the foolishness of the developers/builders. This overpayment is enabled by the lax credit market and housing subsidies.

[CA renter]

Personally, I see Mello-Roos NOT as a way around Prop 13, but rather as a way for developers to overpay landowners for raw land.

The expenses covered by Mello-Roos should be covered by the developers/builders, and should be factored into their cost basis when doing feasibility studies. They should determine the price they can pay for the land based on these costs.

We have been subsidizing landowners for far to long. End-consumers should not have to pay for the foolishness of the developers/builders. This overpayment is enabled by the lax credit market and housing subsidies.

[CA renter]

Personally, I see Mello-Roos NOT as a way around Prop 13, but rather as a way for developers to overpay landowners for raw land.

The expenses covered by Mello-Roos should be covered by the developers/builders, and should be factored into their cost basis when doing feasibility studies. They should determine the price they can pay for the land based on these costs.

We have been subsidizing landowners for far to long. End-consumers should not have to pay for the foolishness of the developers/builders. This overpayment is enabled by the lax credit market and housing subsidies.

[CA renter]

Personally, I see Mello-Roos NOT as a way around Prop 13, but rather as a way for developers to overpay landowners for raw land.

The expenses covered by Mello-Roos should be covered by the developers/builders, and should be factored into their cost basis when doing feasibility studies. They should determine the price they can pay for the land based on these costs.

We have been subsidizing landowners for far to long. End-consumers should not have to pay for the foolishness of the developers/builders. This overpayment is enabled by the lax credit market and housing subsidies.

[CA renter]

Agree with 4plex, though about Prop 13 for rentals.

I am 100% behind Prop 13 for personal, primary residences, but do not believe that we all have to subsidize landlords who do NOT pass this benefit on to their tenants (this would be their argument in favor of keeping their Prop 13 protection). Additionally, something needs to be done with commercial RE and Prop 13. Any transfer should trigger a reassessment.

If we ended subsidies for illegal immigrants (education and law enforcement/prisons being some of the largest state expenditures), I’d bet our financial “crisis” would end overnight. I’ve seen some numbers that claim 40% of our state’s prison population consists of illegal immigrants. It’s likely our school population at least mirrors this, if not more (much more).

For the bleeding hearts who want to keep illegal immigrants here (hint: it’s the businesses who don’t want to pay fair wages and want taxpayers to subsidize them for the additional burdens they place on the system), let them pay for these services themselves. We cannot continue to subsidize businesses who exploit illegal labor any longer. Additionally, we need to force Mexico to take responsibility for their problems and make them fix the problems at their source.

[CA renter]

Agree with 4plex, though about Prop 13 for rentals.

I am 100% behind Prop 13 for personal, primary residences, but do not believe that we all have to subsidize landlords who do NOT pass this benefit on to their tenants (this would be their argument in favor of keeping their Prop 13 protection). Additionally, something needs to be done with commercial RE and Prop 13. Any transfer should trigger a reassessment.

If we ended subsidies for illegal immigrants (education and law enforcement/prisons being some of the largest state expenditures), I’d bet our financial “crisis” would end overnight. I’ve seen some numbers that claim 40% of our state’s prison population consists of illegal immigrants. It’s likely our school population at least mirrors this, if not more (much more).

For the bleeding hearts who want to keep illegal immigrants here (hint: it’s the businesses who don’t want to pay fair wages and want taxpayers to subsidize them for the additional burdens they place on the system), let them pay for these services themselves. We cannot continue to subsidize businesses who exploit illegal labor any longer. Additionally, we need to force Mexico to take responsibility for their problems and make them fix the problems at their source.

[CA renter]

Agree with 4plex, though about Prop 13 for rentals.

I am 100% behind Prop 13 for personal, primary residences, but do not believe that we all have to subsidize landlords who do NOT pass this benefit on to their tenants (this would be their argument in favor of keeping their Prop 13 protection). Additionally, something needs to be done with commercial RE and Prop 13. Any transfer should trigger a reassessment.

If we ended subsidies for illegal immigrants (education and law enforcement/prisons being some of the largest state expenditures), I’d bet our financial “crisis” would end overnight. I’ve seen some numbers that claim 40% of our state’s prison population consists of illegal immigrants. It’s likely our school population at least mirrors this, if not more (much more).

For the bleeding hearts who want to keep illegal immigrants here (hint: it’s the businesses who don’t want to pay fair wages and want taxpayers to subsidize them for the additional burdens they place on the system), let them pay for these services themselves. We cannot continue to subsidize businesses who exploit illegal labor any longer. Additionally, we need to force Mexico to take responsibility for their problems and make them fix the problems at their source.

[CA renter]

Agree with 4plex, though about Prop 13 for rentals.

I am 100% behind Prop 13 for personal, primary residences, but do not believe that we all have to subsidize landlords who do NOT pass this benefit on to their tenants (this would be their argument in favor of keeping their Prop 13 protection). Additionally, something needs to be done with commercial RE and Prop 13. Any transfer should trigger a reassessment.

If we ended subsidies for illegal immigrants (education and law enforcement/prisons being some of the largest state expenditures), I’d bet our financial “crisis” would end overnight. I’ve seen some numbers that claim 40% of our state’s prison population consists of illegal immigrants. It’s likely our school population at least mirrors this, if not more (much more).

For the bleeding hearts who want to keep illegal immigrants here (hint: it’s the businesses who don’t want to pay fair wages and want taxpayers to subsidize them for the additional burdens they place on the system), let them pay for these services themselves. We cannot continue to subsidize businesses who exploit illegal labor any longer. Additionally, we need to force Mexico to take responsibility for their problems and make them fix the problems at their source.

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