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  • March 11, 2008 at 2:37 PM #168073
    barnaby33
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    Every bear needs a bull to make money off of. Today was brutal no doubt about that. Its a bear market, no doubt about that. These Fed induced rallies tend to last a week or two. I’ll wait a couple of days then load back up on puts and ultra shorts, no doubt about that.

    Its good to be a contrarian, but only if its fact based. In your average recession equities lose 30% of their value (per Karl on Ticker Forum.) This will be no average recession. Its already astonishing at the speed of the collapse. Encouraging people to go long even via dollar cost averaging at this point is beyond stupid. Might as well buy real estate, you are lighting money on fire either way. Most of us don’t have “decades” to save as we will need that money for various things at various points in our lives. Buying a house, paying for children and or medical expenses come to mind.

    What the Fed is doing has just created another sucker rally, caviat emptor.

    Josh

    March 11, 2008 at 2:41 PM #167658
    USMCBunny
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    It actually looks like the dollar went up like .5% today.

    Flywestcoast

    March 11, 2008 at 2:41 PM #167982
    USMCBunny
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    It actually looks like the dollar went up like .5% today.

    Flywestcoast

    March 11, 2008 at 2:41 PM #167985
    USMCBunny
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    It actually looks like the dollar went up like .5% today.

    Flywestcoast

    March 11, 2008 at 2:41 PM #168015
    USMCBunny
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    It actually looks like the dollar went up like .5% today.

    Flywestcoast

    March 11, 2008 at 2:41 PM #168083
    USMCBunny
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    It actually looks like the dollar went up like .5% today.

    Flywestcoast

    March 11, 2008 at 3:02 PM #167663
    blackbox
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    Okay, well if you need that money short term, you should never, ever short anything. Now that is insane if you need the money in the next couple of years. You should not go long either. Stay in money market or CDs.
    I did say, if you have decades to invest, and specifically 401K, to dollar cost average into the market, and add more during down market times.
    So where is the stupid? I think that stupid is where you need the money for medical, or buy a house, or anything short term, and that money is in the market, long or short.
    wow, and yet you are going to load up on puts and shorts.
    Okie dokie spanky!

    March 11, 2008 at 3:02 PM #167987
    blackbox
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    Okay, well if you need that money short term, you should never, ever short anything. Now that is insane if you need the money in the next couple of years. You should not go long either. Stay in money market or CDs.
    I did say, if you have decades to invest, and specifically 401K, to dollar cost average into the market, and add more during down market times.
    So where is the stupid? I think that stupid is where you need the money for medical, or buy a house, or anything short term, and that money is in the market, long or short.
    wow, and yet you are going to load up on puts and shorts.
    Okie dokie spanky!

    March 11, 2008 at 3:02 PM #167990
    blackbox
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    Okay, well if you need that money short term, you should never, ever short anything. Now that is insane if you need the money in the next couple of years. You should not go long either. Stay in money market or CDs.
    I did say, if you have decades to invest, and specifically 401K, to dollar cost average into the market, and add more during down market times.
    So where is the stupid? I think that stupid is where you need the money for medical, or buy a house, or anything short term, and that money is in the market, long or short.
    wow, and yet you are going to load up on puts and shorts.
    Okie dokie spanky!

    March 11, 2008 at 3:02 PM #168020
    blackbox
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    Okay, well if you need that money short term, you should never, ever short anything. Now that is insane if you need the money in the next couple of years. You should not go long either. Stay in money market or CDs.
    I did say, if you have decades to invest, and specifically 401K, to dollar cost average into the market, and add more during down market times.
    So where is the stupid? I think that stupid is where you need the money for medical, or buy a house, or anything short term, and that money is in the market, long or short.
    wow, and yet you are going to load up on puts and shorts.
    Okie dokie spanky!

    March 11, 2008 at 3:02 PM #168088
    blackbox
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    Okay, well if you need that money short term, you should never, ever short anything. Now that is insane if you need the money in the next couple of years. You should not go long either. Stay in money market or CDs.
    I did say, if you have decades to invest, and specifically 401K, to dollar cost average into the market, and add more during down market times.
    So where is the stupid? I think that stupid is where you need the money for medical, or buy a house, or anything short term, and that money is in the market, long or short.
    wow, and yet you are going to load up on puts and shorts.
    Okie dokie spanky!

    March 11, 2008 at 3:03 PM #167673
    an
    Participant

    Who here can truly say that they’ve been more right than wrong timing the market? The majority can’t even time the RE market, how do you expect them to time the stock market? At least with $ cost averaging and proper diversification between sectors, value & growth, and geographical, more likely than not, the value of those equity will be higher 20-30 years from now compare to today.

    Every bull needs a bear to make money off of too. Based on the last 20-30 years, it sure look like the bulls are winning the fight.

    March 11, 2008 at 3:03 PM #167997
    an
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    Who here can truly say that they’ve been more right than wrong timing the market? The majority can’t even time the RE market, how do you expect them to time the stock market? At least with $ cost averaging and proper diversification between sectors, value & growth, and geographical, more likely than not, the value of those equity will be higher 20-30 years from now compare to today.

    Every bull needs a bear to make money off of too. Based on the last 20-30 years, it sure look like the bulls are winning the fight.

    March 11, 2008 at 3:03 PM #168000
    an
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    Who here can truly say that they’ve been more right than wrong timing the market? The majority can’t even time the RE market, how do you expect them to time the stock market? At least with $ cost averaging and proper diversification between sectors, value & growth, and geographical, more likely than not, the value of those equity will be higher 20-30 years from now compare to today.

    Every bull needs a bear to make money off of too. Based on the last 20-30 years, it sure look like the bulls are winning the fight.

    March 11, 2008 at 3:03 PM #168030
    an
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    Who here can truly say that they’ve been more right than wrong timing the market? The majority can’t even time the RE market, how do you expect them to time the stock market? At least with $ cost averaging and proper diversification between sectors, value & growth, and geographical, more likely than not, the value of those equity will be higher 20-30 years from now compare to today.

    Every bull needs a bear to make money off of too. Based on the last 20-30 years, it sure look like the bulls are winning the fight.

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