Beach brawl in Pacific Beach!

[mixxalot]

If I had the millions to buy beach/ocean PB property

Then I sure as hell would not buy there but rather in a nicer beach area such as Encinitas or Solana Beach. Nicer people, no crackhead or tweaker ex-cons on the loose and mellow place. Plus I find the beaches cleaner and the area more scenic beauty. Thats my dream spot if I ever hit it big- an ocean front or overlook the ocean in Encinitas or Solana Beach or even Malibu Canyon. That would be mighty sweet!

I had fun a few times in PB when I first lived in San Diego but it got old quick with the insane crowds, drunks, gang fights on the beach and just not my thing anymore. At least Ocean Beach is more laid back and hippy. Never see fights breakout in mellow OB!

Just that the homes are falling apart and decrepit in Ocean Beach and Point Loma and who wants to pay a million bucks for a shack?

[privatebanker]

No fights in OB?!! It certainly isn’t a college/frat punk town but OB has it’s share of undesireables. Just go into any of the bars on Newport Ave. you’ll see. OB used to be the hang out for the Hells Angels. It’s a strange mix but definitely way better than PB or MB. Millionaires on the hill mixed with blue collar workers on the flats. If you live on the hill or by the cliffs, it’s amazing. A lot of crime by dog beach area.

[meadandale]

All the people that are for banning alcohol at the beach crack me up. Thanks for working hard to take away MY freedoms.

Fighting, being drunk in public, peeing on the side of buildings, crashing into other cars when drunk….all these things are already illegal. Making the consumption of alcohol on the beach illegal isn’t a magic wand that will make all of these things stop happening. It must be nice living in the fantasy world that you inhabit that makes you think so.

Remember, many of these ‘punks’ live in PB. If they can’t drink ON the beach, they’ll drink at home and go TO the beach. You’ll still have drunk idiots on the beach and now they’ll be driving TO and FROM the beach while loaded. I hope you don’t walk around much in your neighborhood.

[Raybyrnes]

I live down at the beach and I make it a point to call the police only as a last resort. When you buy or live in PB you know what you are getting into. I have the advantage of being 6’5 230 so I don’t everyone to be as comfortable knocking on a neighbors door and telling them to shut it down but I find that if you let people know that they are too loud they tend to close the windows and turn it down a bit.

[XBoxBoy]

Warning – rumor and gossip in this post!!!

The rumor I heard last night was that there were a bunch of dancers from a strip club who had set up a slip and slid. And when the cops tried to shut down the topless slip and slid, that’s when the trouble broke out. Which if you ask me seems like a pretty good reason to riot!!!

Just a rumor though….

[hipmatt]

What a bunch of winners!! I wish I could be a part of that community.

BTW.. if you want strippers, whores, topless sluts, and drunk losers, there is a craphole in the middle of the desert called Las Vegas. It will have everything you need. Lets keep the public beaches safe for everyone.

[PorkmanDelardo]

Good Riddance to Pacific Thief. After one year of renting a 1 bdrm on Oliver (close to Sail Bay and the ocean, I got fed up and moved along. Never any parking for visitors, bicycle tires stolen in front of my place, transients combing the alley looking for cans and bottles and unlocked cars, constant sirens and helicopters overhead. Skinheads next door using their back yard to store stolen bikes, motorcycles , tools etc. (nice view from my upstairs apartment into their back yard.) I don’t know if a booze ban is the solution. It seems like the problems in PB are ingrained in the psyche of the neighborhood and it could take years to turn it around, if ever. Porkman

[mixxalot]

Ban on booze will not work

I agree- by ban booze it will not solve the problem with PB and MB areas.

What they need are sting operations to crack down on the drug punks and also the landlords need to evict roudy tenants. That would help.

[PadreBrian]

I heard it was over a striper slip & slide stunt as well. Showgirls.

Horney drunk mob. Denied by police. There was probably a better way for the police to defuse the situation.

[ibjames]

I live in the felspar and dawes area.

I agree, it is pretty rowdy, we had the lawn lights stolen, bike stolen out of our garage, neighbors next door that like to party in their back yard AFTER bars close. (I went next door and yelled and they changed that)

I think they need to start revoking licenses. 3 strikes your out type rule or something. Outside of Tavern now cops park their cars because that place has serious problems. If they start having less bars in the area things will get better.

As far as the riot, it’s tons of people in one small area, all drinking, with lots of attitude. You have your zonies in for the last romp of the year, your east county bros claiming san diego, telling tourists to get the hell out, and everyone else mixed in looking for one last party to talk about.

This is the best time of the year to be in PB in my opinion, after the labor day fiasco that happens every year.

I don’t think a ban will help, I think they just need to get tougher laws. Undercover cops walking around handing citations out like candy.

[Doofrat]

Gosh, I didn’t realize PB had gotten to be like that in the past several years.

I remember when families would take a weekend drive down there (dad in his suit and mom in her best summer dress, the kids dressed up in their Sunday finest) to spread out a checkered tablecloth and have a picnic on or near the beach.

Usually the beaches and boardwalk were deserted early Sunday morning because everybody was at church.

I remember there were a few lost souls that somehow wandered into Pacific Beach though. I remember Willy, the town drunk. He’d get liquored up and officer Brown would laugh and lock him in the cell and Mrs. Brown would bring him some home cooked food to eat.

Ah, the good old days, seems a downright shame that Pacific Beach has recently had some growing pains. I knew things might not stay the same once ol’ reverend Smith passed, maybe church attendance has dropped? Maybe what these kids (which you so derisively refer to as ‘punks’) need is a nice wholesome hobby to get their wheels back on track, then maybe Pacific Beach could regain that charm it’s always been known for.

[slackerboy]

I grew up in PB and it was such a nice community in the 60’s…the late 60’s the hippies (my older siblings included) hung out at the beach, but it was such a mellow scene because everyone was stoned. I don’t think alcohol is the only problem, I wouldn’t be surprised if meth played a part in the behavior too. I find it unbelievable that people are paying a million bucks to live near a beach with polluted water and horrible people…but to each their own I guess. San Diego does not plan for the future, they are always behind the curve…that is why it has so many problems. But I have a feeling the VOTERS will have their say eventually and alcohol will be banned. But where will these losers head to next?

[ibjames]

In Madison WI (one of the top 10 places to live in the United States) they limit the amount of licenses for one thing, and they aren’t afraid to revoke licenses if your establishment keeps having problems that requires the police. They say that too many licenses have been issued and cannot get them back, you can pass rules that make it possible, but SD doesn’t do it.

[drunkle]

you know, if sd wasn’t so anal about entertainment elsewhere in the county, you probably wouldn’t have the concentration of lowlifes that you do now. if ib were cleaned up, if coronado, del mar to carlsbad weren’t so cloistered…

inland, if there were places for kids to go other than the freaking mall…

[Anonymous]

Now is the nice time to live in PB…

From memorial day to the 4th to labor day holiday is when the dregs come out to party, get drunk and fight. Now for the next 8 months PB reverts back to paradise, as much as one can expect from a beach area. My choices to move are limited to a million plus fixer in La Jolla or Coronado if I want to stay by the coast!

The area we live in is zone for single family only, so we escape the apartments / condos madness. We have great neighbors that look out for each other. In summer time we have neighborhood wine & cheese parties called BORC (Bayard, Oliver, ZReed, Cass) where the local folks hang out and kids get to run around playing. The opposite of the PB brawl!

So either booze ban from the pier to PB drive, or during the three months of summer, or holidays is good enough for me!
Or having special permit with a $10,000 posted bond with the city for a beer party on the beach! Make them pay for any trouble. Even the HB enforcement is a good idea – just get something past this year.

Speeches aside, I say check the police stats after one or two years and see if the crime stats show a drop. If so the property values will hold up much better. And for people wanting to drink on the beach let us put them on Fiesta Island (like the over the line contest), keep them pen in!

For people wanting the freedom to drink at the surf how about if they post a bond, spend the time and money for a volunteer force to help police enforce the laws, model after OMBAC does for over the line! That way this group can spot problem spots and trouble BEFORE it gets out of hand!

BTW the slip and slide story shows up on the local news but several other people saw the police over reacting after the ATC went into the ocean. The news said the lifeguards lock themselves in their booths which meant nobody was helping swimmers! Like SD being unprotected since all the cops were on Reed!

MGL

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