Beach brawl in Pacific Beach!

[mixxalot]

For a good story why Pacific Beach is not so great place to live

http://www.fox6.com/mediacenter/[email protected]

The beach brawl!!! Now another reason NOT to buy in over priced Pacific Beach. That is why I prefer Ocean Beach, Point Loma and Encinitas over alcohol soaked PB.

Of course if the heat continues perhaps it will create more pressure to drop prices in San Diego real estate market.

[Alex_angel]

Did you see the photos. A bunch of drunk 20 year old tattooed punks. What did you expect to happen?

[Alex_angel]

I lived near tourmailine for about 2 years and it was a nightmare. Sure I ahd a gorgeous ocean view but the noise was 24/7. You would heard punks partying every night , seven days a week. Times when I’d be heading for work at 6 am I would see punks rolling kegs to a party that is still raging. You try to open your window at night to hear the waves and all you hear is people having sex, people yelling, music and deep bass pumping, bands etc… It was a f*cking nightmare. Every morning driving to work it was a true test in my driving skills. People just don’t know how to drive in that area. People just brake and do a U-turn right in front of you, pull out of blind driveways at 50 miles an hour. Punks running across the street or skatboarding in all directions, drunk fools yelling and screeching their tires around every corner. It was brutal. I have that freaking area so much it makes my blood boil anytime I need to head to that area. a lot of the homes in PB are just crap, rundown, small and wayyyyyyyy overpriced, even for San Diego. What a POS area.

[mixxalot]

Beach punks and drugs

Are rampant in Mission and Pacific Beach. It really is tweaker central and frat house punk central. At first I used to have fun hang out there due to the amount of hot young college age eye candy but now nah I pass. I prefer the mellow beach in OB and north coastal beaches like Torrey Pines State Beach and Encinitas by far. Alas, these areas cost a fortune to live in so think it is out of my budget. Even in a crash if a 2 million home drops by 50 percent I still cant afford it. So looks like I will be stuck more inland for future home purchase unless I become some high powered exec.

[SHILOH]

The consensus seems to be that too much drinking caused the brawl and that re-evaluating alcohol on the beach policy (at least at that beach) might be a remedy.

[mixxalot]

Misguided thoughts

Sorry but I disagree- punk is a criminal thug that caused the brawls and not alcohol. Drinking just fueled the fire that already is a problem with Mission Beach and PB in general the tweaker criminals living there are the ones who cause the problems. Not a little bit of beer.

[Alex_angel]

My friends come over and we drink like drunkards on the weekend but we don’t go around brawling. It is the type of people that were hanging out there that caused the brawl not liquor. Wait I forgot the “American Way” is to always place the blame anything but the individual. Blaming liquor is a cheap excuse.

[mixxalot]

Alex is right

I dont get upset when I have a glass of wine. Punks use this as an excuse and I dont like illogical people who cannot use common sense to realize that punks are punks its not the couple on the beach having a Chardonnay cause the issue. Just like guns dont kill people. People do. But govmint cannot think logical.

[patientlywaiting]

Come on, young people need a place to hang out.

I don’t think that homes should ever have been allowed on the beaches. They are public spaces where people entertain themselves.

Every city needs a vibrant bar scene. It makes the city more cosmopolitan and fun. That’s why San Diego is so boring. You don’t have to go if you don’t like it.

[Anonymous]

I live one block from Reed. Same stuff every year for 14 yrs I live here. I was pro booze 10 years ago, now no more. With a wife, kid, & home owner forever having drunks screaming at 2 am, taking a dump or peeing on my house wall, leaving trash, driving drunk at 50 mph hitting park cars / people, fighting, and taking 15 – 30 mins to get a cop to show up (“hey 911 is busy so if no meat cleaver hanging out of your head we will NOT come” quoted from SDPD finest!) – I say NO BOOZE!

The whole story from yesterday I was told started when one person push the police ATV into the water, but another push it out and HE got arrested! Wrong guy! The crowd started throwing stuff, cops got piss and call for back up. With 60 – 80 cops on end of Reed the rest of SAN DIEGO WAS LEFT WITH NO COPS!!! THAT MEANS YOU!!!

Then they sweep going after everybody, driving people out. I got to watch a couple of OZ looking guys (prison tattoo’s, HUG muscle guys (one was at least 6′ 6″ plus) running by cursing the overhead helicopter paging everybody they were filming. Why? They where looking to cause trouble and not get caught!

Then it got worse as a trailer trash family came by drunk, with momma (age 50 +) peeing behind my neighbors truck! Her son with a 12 pack stumble by then sat in the car and proceeded to drink can after can of beer, throwing them out the window on the sidewalk.

We call the cops, got on hold with the machine. By now my neighbor started snapping pics with his cell phone to get their plates. The son (big guy also) stumbles out of the car, screaming, ready to fight. His mom (still drunk) finally realizes this is bad, puts a cuople of cans thrown out in the trash and starts to slap him around, forcing him back in the car with the rest of the kids. 5 people jam in a broken down eco box, driven by drunk mom then roars off down the road, with him tossing more beer cans. We still are waiting for SDPD to pick up the phone.

This is what us owners have been dealing with for years, low life people from out of town, get drunk, and start trouble.
Yesterday was VERY CLOSE to a full riot, I ask people coming off the the beach and every one said the same thing.

Free PB group will try to spin control this, save your freedom, etc., yet they did NOTHING against the smoking ban . The bars and liquor stores run PB by MONEY donations through lobbying city council and TAX revenue. This is how the PB block party went from small family event to full drunken event with out of towners, gangs, low lifes coming here to PARTY, TRASH and FIGHT in PB. Heck, the internet ads for the block party made PB look like to place to PARTY like a drunken sailor on leave! The last PB block event they had a riot almost happen and SDPD had NO riot plan in place!

Yep the laws are in place but even with tons of cops something ALWAYS happens! I live across the street on the boardwalk at Reed, drug deals all day & night long, drunken marines and bums fighting EVERY WEEKEND during summer, beer bottles throw at me from passing cars at night, and so forth. Still not enough cops to handle this TYPE of crowd!

If no cops on every street corner then the low lifes, gangs, drug dealers just move around the police presence, I know because they hang out on my street and alley!

My wife makes us leave both on the 4th of July and labor day every year because of such madness. YOU try to living here with this madness every year – if banning booze cuts this even 20 – 30 % it is WELL WORTH IT!!!

I love PB 99% of the year, just 1% trouble makers (alway under age 30 punky guy with sunburn, screaming and fighting) every summer – the same problems, over and over, always from drunk and drug behavior. Even a holiday ban on booze would help!

GET RID OF THE BOOZE and the 1 %that causes trouble will be gone also! I know, I grew up in LA and rarely saw trouble at the LA beaches, cause by the 1%.

MGL

[mixxalot]

Well I would say best to just have no booze then if it works

I hardly drink anyways and if it really did crack down on the criminals that would work. But I think the issue is more endemic with Mission Beach and Pacific Beach with gangs and drugs. It has always been a drug haven from what I hear. Thats why I dont live there.

[FoamFinger1]

I have to agree 100%. The town gets way out of control. The bar owners do fine. The beer distributors do fine. The people who want to LIVE in this town get stuck with the consequences. I say LIVE here, not visit, party and trash what ever they feel like. Anybody who doubts the impact of the drunken crowds just walk the Garnet and side streets. Notice how any tree with 300 Yards of a bar has been torn apart or missing completely. This is just madness to trash and destory the community one lives. Enough with the sargent Shultz do-nothing, see-nothing type of attitude from the lazy property managers. These drunken rowdies just use the under-managed apt complexs as base camps for these activities.

The future of PB, I am afraid, is what the Huntington Beach City Officials did after their summer riot in ’85-’86. There, anybody walking with a beer got tossed in the clink. Standing in your front yard (without a fence separtating from the sidewalk)with a drink got tossed in the clink, no debate, no sad story, just drug away and tossed. The drunk roudy crowd moved on.

Big changes need to happen in PB. Any half hearted attempt will be a failure.

[CMcG]

mglsharkson–I feel for you.I think it is only going to get worse and that you should consider moving inland. P.B. is not for families, and when we got pregnant, we moved the hell out.

We lived in PB from 1979 to 1986 as 20-something renters. In that space of time, our house was burglarized twice (both times, the front door was kicked in), someone stole our cheap Weber BBQ from the backyard, our neighbor was raped (the guy came through the bedroom window), the gas station on Grand behind our house was robbed and the robber came through our yard with a gun, running from police), I personally witnessed two purse snatchings in front of Von’s plus a bank robbery at B of A. My spouse said, “I will never live inland.” But, happily, he changed his mind and we have been living in peace since then.

If you own, you must have enough money to buy elsewhere in the county. I suggest you consider this option. The older you get, the harder it is to live in P.B.

[eyePod]

I can see why so many people want to live in San Diego.

[LookoutBelow]

PB is importing El Cajon/Lemon Grove trailer park Locals when it gets to be 90 degrees out there……The waves suck anyway.

 

Tourmaline= good waves…Was my home break for 20 yrs…would I live anywhere near there ? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL…..

I laugh when I surf at 'shores' almost everytime I walk back to the truck and see somebody peeing or shittin on somebody 5 MILLION dollar front yard !!…Hahahahaaaa…

I dont know who is more stupid ? The rich crackhead homeowner or the poor crackhead taking the dump on the side yard !!

 

 

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