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[briansd1]

urbanrealtor, good points about the history of real estate.

Did they have Realtors (with capital R) at that time, or were they simply real estate agents?

Too bad most people are oblivious that history.

BTW, those people who wrote those covenant restrictions in the 1960s are still alive today. I doubt that their views have changed all that much.

I’m however heartened that young people are more advanced in their views.

It takes time for social progress. Racial discrimination in housing was not enforceable since 1945 but was still going on through the 1970s.

That’s what I mean by incremental social progress and the convervatives wanting to block progress and conserve back in time through obstruction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_v._Kraemer

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=ERADICATOR]A WOP is an Italian…
and Kike is a Jew

allow me to interject Italians dengenerate references are: WOP, Guinea
Jew degenerate references are:
Kike, Bagel

Correction made

R/
ERADICATOR[/quote]

And if anyone is wondering what WOP means… It means With Out Papers… Apparently we italians were the orignal “wetbacks”.

CE[/quote]
Or the irish.

My grandad is 93.
He got his first real estate job in 1930 (when he was 14).
Per him, the whole reason CC&R’s exist (and they have been around since the 1880s or so) was so that neighborhoods didn’t have to worry about Italians and Irish moving in.
His father (also an Irish Realtor) had to know them when selling in different parts of Detroit.

Random.

Also, if you sell anything older than about 1960 in La Jolla, they still show ethnic ownership restrictions on the HOA docs.

Fun stuff.[/quote]

Actually your right… The irish were the first resented enthic group to come in… Its just that we were the second and more numerous to come so we carried the rep a little more heavily. Every enthic group has their time at the bottom of the class structure then educates and move out of that “class”. Right now its the latinos and in 20 years it will be someone else…

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=ERADICATOR]A WOP is an Italian…
and Kike is a Jew

allow me to interject Italians dengenerate references are: WOP, Guinea
Jew degenerate references are:
Kike, Bagel

Correction made

R/
ERADICATOR[/quote]

And if anyone is wondering what WOP means… It means With Out Papers… Apparently we italians were the orignal “wetbacks”.

CE[/quote]
Or the irish.

My grandad is 93.
He got his first real estate job in 1930 (when he was 14).
Per him, the whole reason CC&R’s exist (and they have been around since the 1880s or so) was so that neighborhoods didn’t have to worry about Italians and Irish moving in.
His father (also an Irish Realtor) had to know them when selling in different parts of Detroit.

Random.

Also, if you sell anything older than about 1960 in La Jolla, they still show ethnic ownership restrictions on the HOA docs.

Fun stuff.[/quote]

Actually your right… The irish were the first resented enthic group to come in… Its just that we were the second and more numerous to come so we carried the rep a little more heavily. Every enthic group has their time at the bottom of the class structure then educates and move out of that “class”. Right now its the latinos and in 20 years it will be someone else…

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=ERADICATOR]A WOP is an Italian…
and Kike is a Jew

allow me to interject Italians dengenerate references are: WOP, Guinea
Jew degenerate references are:
Kike, Bagel

Correction made

R/
ERADICATOR[/quote]

And if anyone is wondering what WOP means… It means With Out Papers… Apparently we italians were the orignal “wetbacks”.

CE[/quote]
Or the irish.

My grandad is 93.
He got his first real estate job in 1930 (when he was 14).
Per him, the whole reason CC&R’s exist (and they have been around since the 1880s or so) was so that neighborhoods didn’t have to worry about Italians and Irish moving in.
His father (also an Irish Realtor) had to know them when selling in different parts of Detroit.

Random.

Also, if you sell anything older than about 1960 in La Jolla, they still show ethnic ownership restrictions on the HOA docs.

Fun stuff.[/quote]

Actually your right… The irish were the first resented enthic group to come in… Its just that we were the second and more numerous to come so we carried the rep a little more heavily. Every enthic group has their time at the bottom of the class structure then educates and move out of that “class”. Right now its the latinos and in 20 years it will be someone else…

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=ERADICATOR]A WOP is an Italian…
and Kike is a Jew

allow me to interject Italians dengenerate references are: WOP, Guinea
Jew degenerate references are:
Kike, Bagel

Correction made

R/
ERADICATOR[/quote]

And if anyone is wondering what WOP means… It means With Out Papers… Apparently we italians were the orignal “wetbacks”.

CE[/quote]
Or the irish.

My grandad is 93.
He got his first real estate job in 1930 (when he was 14).
Per him, the whole reason CC&R’s exist (and they have been around since the 1880s or so) was so that neighborhoods didn’t have to worry about Italians and Irish moving in.
His father (also an Irish Realtor) had to know them when selling in different parts of Detroit.

Random.

Also, if you sell anything older than about 1960 in La Jolla, they still show ethnic ownership restrictions on the HOA docs.

Fun stuff.[/quote]

Actually your right… The irish were the first resented enthic group to come in… Its just that we were the second and more numerous to come so we carried the rep a little more heavily. Every enthic group has their time at the bottom of the class structure then educates and move out of that “class”. Right now its the latinos and in 20 years it will be someone else…

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=ERADICATOR]A WOP is an Italian…
and Kike is a Jew

allow me to interject Italians dengenerate references are: WOP, Guinea
Jew degenerate references are:
Kike, Bagel

Correction made

R/
ERADICATOR[/quote]

And if anyone is wondering what WOP means… It means With Out Papers… Apparently we italians were the orignal “wetbacks”.

CE[/quote]
Or the irish.

My grandad is 93.
He got his first real estate job in 1930 (when he was 14).
Per him, the whole reason CC&R’s exist (and they have been around since the 1880s or so) was so that neighborhoods didn’t have to worry about Italians and Irish moving in.
His father (also an Irish Realtor) had to know them when selling in different parts of Detroit.

Random.

Also, if you sell anything older than about 1960 in La Jolla, they still show ethnic ownership restrictions on the HOA docs.

Fun stuff.[/quote]

Actually your right… The irish were the first resented enthic group to come in… Its just that we were the second and more numerous to come so we carried the rep a little more heavily. Every enthic group has their time at the bottom of the class structure then educates and move out of that “class”. Right now its the latinos and in 20 years it will be someone else…

CE

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=briansd1]urbanrealtor, good points about the history of real estate.

Did they have Realtors (with capital R) at that time, or were they simply real estate agents?

Too bad most people are oblivious that history.

BTW, those people who wrote those covenant restrictions in the 1960s are still alive today. I doubt that their views have changed all that much.

I’m however heartened that young people are more advanced in their views.

It takes time for social progress. Racial discrimination in housing was not enforceable since 1945 but was still going on through the 1970s.

That’s what I mean by incremental social progress and the convervatives wanting to block progress and conserve back in time through obstruction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_v._Kraemer%5B/quote%5D

The trademark Realtor designation was achieved in like 1949 and I think that when my family started there was no association and not even a license system in place.
My grandad’s recollection was that when they did come up with a board (and its MLS) the listings were dogs and the board was seen as more of a hassle than a help. He said he eventually drew the short straw and ended up as president for a while.
He went on (30 years later and after the move to California) to engage in lobbying efforts to make redlining, steering, and blockbusting into enforceable violations. That one did not go down easily. Agents, by design and practice, try to please their clients; and clients (even today) want things that are not necessarily in keeping with legal and ethical practices.
For example, I regularly get this question:
“What kind of other people live in the neighborhood?”.
Translation: “Are they white/ black/ gay/ parents/ robots like us????”
This is a normal question that is patently unlawful for me to answer. I usually go with some weasel version of “its really mixed” or “you might want to have a look when you come by later”.
I can only how much more difficult that conversation was in the 1960’s.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=briansd1]urbanrealtor, good points about the history of real estate.

Did they have Realtors (with capital R) at that time, or were they simply real estate agents?

Too bad most people are oblivious that history.

BTW, those people who wrote those covenant restrictions in the 1960s are still alive today. I doubt that their views have changed all that much.

I’m however heartened that young people are more advanced in their views.

It takes time for social progress. Racial discrimination in housing was not enforceable since 1945 but was still going on through the 1970s.

That’s what I mean by incremental social progress and the convervatives wanting to block progress and conserve back in time through obstruction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_v._Kraemer%5B/quote%5D

The trademark Realtor designation was achieved in like 1949 and I think that when my family started there was no association and not even a license system in place.
My grandad’s recollection was that when they did come up with a board (and its MLS) the listings were dogs and the board was seen as more of a hassle than a help. He said he eventually drew the short straw and ended up as president for a while.
He went on (30 years later and after the move to California) to engage in lobbying efforts to make redlining, steering, and blockbusting into enforceable violations. That one did not go down easily. Agents, by design and practice, try to please their clients; and clients (even today) want things that are not necessarily in keeping with legal and ethical practices.
For example, I regularly get this question:
“What kind of other people live in the neighborhood?”.
Translation: “Are they white/ black/ gay/ parents/ robots like us????”
This is a normal question that is patently unlawful for me to answer. I usually go with some weasel version of “its really mixed” or “you might want to have a look when you come by later”.
I can only how much more difficult that conversation was in the 1960’s.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=briansd1]urbanrealtor, good points about the history of real estate.

Did they have Realtors (with capital R) at that time, or were they simply real estate agents?

Too bad most people are oblivious that history.

BTW, those people who wrote those covenant restrictions in the 1960s are still alive today. I doubt that their views have changed all that much.

I’m however heartened that young people are more advanced in their views.

It takes time for social progress. Racial discrimination in housing was not enforceable since 1945 but was still going on through the 1970s.

That’s what I mean by incremental social progress and the convervatives wanting to block progress and conserve back in time through obstruction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_v._Kraemer%5B/quote%5D

The trademark Realtor designation was achieved in like 1949 and I think that when my family started there was no association and not even a license system in place.
My grandad’s recollection was that when they did come up with a board (and its MLS) the listings were dogs and the board was seen as more of a hassle than a help. He said he eventually drew the short straw and ended up as president for a while.
He went on (30 years later and after the move to California) to engage in lobbying efforts to make redlining, steering, and blockbusting into enforceable violations. That one did not go down easily. Agents, by design and practice, try to please their clients; and clients (even today) want things that are not necessarily in keeping with legal and ethical practices.
For example, I regularly get this question:
“What kind of other people live in the neighborhood?”.
Translation: “Are they white/ black/ gay/ parents/ robots like us????”
This is a normal question that is patently unlawful for me to answer. I usually go with some weasel version of “its really mixed” or “you might want to have a look when you come by later”.
I can only how much more difficult that conversation was in the 1960’s.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=briansd1]urbanrealtor, good points about the history of real estate.

Did they have Realtors (with capital R) at that time, or were they simply real estate agents?

Too bad most people are oblivious that history.

BTW, those people who wrote those covenant restrictions in the 1960s are still alive today. I doubt that their views have changed all that much.

I’m however heartened that young people are more advanced in their views.

It takes time for social progress. Racial discrimination in housing was not enforceable since 1945 but was still going on through the 1970s.

That’s what I mean by incremental social progress and the convervatives wanting to block progress and conserve back in time through obstruction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_v._Kraemer%5B/quote%5D

The trademark Realtor designation was achieved in like 1949 and I think that when my family started there was no association and not even a license system in place.
My grandad’s recollection was that when they did come up with a board (and its MLS) the listings were dogs and the board was seen as more of a hassle than a help. He said he eventually drew the short straw and ended up as president for a while.
He went on (30 years later and after the move to California) to engage in lobbying efforts to make redlining, steering, and blockbusting into enforceable violations. That one did not go down easily. Agents, by design and practice, try to please their clients; and clients (even today) want things that are not necessarily in keeping with legal and ethical practices.
For example, I regularly get this question:
“What kind of other people live in the neighborhood?”.
Translation: “Are they white/ black/ gay/ parents/ robots like us????”
This is a normal question that is patently unlawful for me to answer. I usually go with some weasel version of “its really mixed” or “you might want to have a look when you come by later”.
I can only how much more difficult that conversation was in the 1960’s.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=briansd1]urbanrealtor, good points about the history of real estate.

Did they have Realtors (with capital R) at that time, or were they simply real estate agents?

Too bad most people are oblivious that history.

BTW, those people who wrote those covenant restrictions in the 1960s are still alive today. I doubt that their views have changed all that much.

I’m however heartened that young people are more advanced in their views.

It takes time for social progress. Racial discrimination in housing was not enforceable since 1945 but was still going on through the 1970s.

That’s what I mean by incremental social progress and the convervatives wanting to block progress and conserve back in time through obstruction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_v._Kraemer%5B/quote%5D

The trademark Realtor designation was achieved in like 1949 and I think that when my family started there was no association and not even a license system in place.
My grandad’s recollection was that when they did come up with a board (and its MLS) the listings were dogs and the board was seen as more of a hassle than a help. He said he eventually drew the short straw and ended up as president for a while.
He went on (30 years later and after the move to California) to engage in lobbying efforts to make redlining, steering, and blockbusting into enforceable violations. That one did not go down easily. Agents, by design and practice, try to please their clients; and clients (even today) want things that are not necessarily in keeping with legal and ethical practices.
For example, I regularly get this question:
“What kind of other people live in the neighborhood?”.
Translation: “Are they white/ black/ gay/ parents/ robots like us????”
This is a normal question that is patently unlawful for me to answer. I usually go with some weasel version of “its really mixed” or “you might want to have a look when you come by later”.
I can only how much more difficult that conversation was in the 1960’s.

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