Am I a racist?

[scaredyclassic]

Ok. People I’ll like hanging out with will come from varied economic and social backgrounds. Jesse jacksons quote came many years too late to save me from being pilloried in a law school class shen I quoted Howard stern saying something similar. If you’re playing the odds you might cross the street as Jackson said. I wasn’t commenting on whether that was a good social state but merely that it was not irrational and I got shouted down pretty quick as bring irrational and probably racist. Fuck it.

[UCGal]

I had roommates till my mid/late 30’s because I was late to the marriage thing. Why not have someone help pay the rent or give you money toward the mortgage.

I was sexist… didn’t want to share with a guy because I had stereotypes in my head of guys being slobs.

But racist, nope. In college I had a roommate for 2 years… she was a part time student who worked full time. Then in my 30’s when I bought my home outside Philly I integrated the mostly Irish neighborhood… No one had any issues with her… of course it helps that both her undergrad and MBA were from Ivy schools. She helped encourage me to go for my masters.

Hangin’ out with the first roommate was eye opening to me… I saw bouncers at clubs here in San Diego find excuses to not let her in (after letting the rest of our group, all white, in). I started observing the real slights that occur. The second roommate described her problems finding an apartment when she first moved to the area… she’d call and make appointments to see a place, and show up and it had suddenly be already rented… it happened a lot. They couldn’t screen her on the phone because she didn’t sound black…

Don’t discriminate on race… look at whether you’ll get along with the person. I’m still very good friends with both former roommates.

[UCGal]

I had roommates till my mid/late 30’s because I was late to the marriage thing. Why not have someone help pay the rent or give you money toward the mortgage.

I was sexist… didn’t want to share with a guy because I had stereotypes in my head of guys being slobs.

But racist, nope. In college I had a roommate for 2 years… she was a part time student who worked full time. Then in my 30’s when I bought my home outside Philly I integrated the mostly Irish neighborhood… No one had any issues with her… of course it helps that both her undergrad and MBA were from Ivy schools. She helped encourage me to go for my masters.

Hangin’ out with the first roommate was eye opening to me… I saw bouncers at clubs here in San Diego find excuses to not let her in (after letting the rest of our group, all white, in). I started observing the real slights that occur. The second roommate described her problems finding an apartment when she first moved to the area… she’d call and make appointments to see a place, and show up and it had suddenly be already rented… it happened a lot. They couldn’t screen her on the phone because she didn’t sound black…

Don’t discriminate on race… look at whether you’ll get along with the person. I’m still very good friends with both former roommates.

[UCGal]

I had roommates till my mid/late 30’s because I was late to the marriage thing. Why not have someone help pay the rent or give you money toward the mortgage.

I was sexist… didn’t want to share with a guy because I had stereotypes in my head of guys being slobs.

But racist, nope. In college I had a roommate for 2 years… she was a part time student who worked full time. Then in my 30’s when I bought my home outside Philly I integrated the mostly Irish neighborhood… No one had any issues with her… of course it helps that both her undergrad and MBA were from Ivy schools. She helped encourage me to go for my masters.

Hangin’ out with the first roommate was eye opening to me… I saw bouncers at clubs here in San Diego find excuses to not let her in (after letting the rest of our group, all white, in). I started observing the real slights that occur. The second roommate described her problems finding an apartment when she first moved to the area… she’d call and make appointments to see a place, and show up and it had suddenly be already rented… it happened a lot. They couldn’t screen her on the phone because she didn’t sound black…

Don’t discriminate on race… look at whether you’ll get along with the person. I’m still very good friends with both former roommates.

[UCGal]

I had roommates till my mid/late 30’s because I was late to the marriage thing. Why not have someone help pay the rent or give you money toward the mortgage.

I was sexist… didn’t want to share with a guy because I had stereotypes in my head of guys being slobs.

But racist, nope. In college I had a roommate for 2 years… she was a part time student who worked full time. Then in my 30’s when I bought my home outside Philly I integrated the mostly Irish neighborhood… No one had any issues with her… of course it helps that both her undergrad and MBA were from Ivy schools. She helped encourage me to go for my masters.

Hangin’ out with the first roommate was eye opening to me… I saw bouncers at clubs here in San Diego find excuses to not let her in (after letting the rest of our group, all white, in). I started observing the real slights that occur. The second roommate described her problems finding an apartment when she first moved to the area… she’d call and make appointments to see a place, and show up and it had suddenly be already rented… it happened a lot. They couldn’t screen her on the phone because she didn’t sound black…

Don’t discriminate on race… look at whether you’ll get along with the person. I’m still very good friends with both former roommates.

[UCGal]

I had roommates till my mid/late 30’s because I was late to the marriage thing. Why not have someone help pay the rent or give you money toward the mortgage.

I was sexist… didn’t want to share with a guy because I had stereotypes in my head of guys being slobs.

But racist, nope. In college I had a roommate for 2 years… she was a part time student who worked full time. Then in my 30’s when I bought my home outside Philly I integrated the mostly Irish neighborhood… No one had any issues with her… of course it helps that both her undergrad and MBA were from Ivy schools. She helped encourage me to go for my masters.

Hangin’ out with the first roommate was eye opening to me… I saw bouncers at clubs here in San Diego find excuses to not let her in (after letting the rest of our group, all white, in). I started observing the real slights that occur. The second roommate described her problems finding an apartment when she first moved to the area… she’d call and make appointments to see a place, and show up and it had suddenly be already rented… it happened a lot. They couldn’t screen her on the phone because she didn’t sound black…

Don’t discriminate on race… look at whether you’ll get along with the person. I’m still very good friends with both former roommates.

[masayako]

I don’t rent to anyone who look like they are clueless or irresponsible. If the tenants are Black or Arab, but extreme responsible people. Sure thing, I would rent to them.

However, if they dress like gangster rapper or looks like he’s going to run some Jihad shhh_iit in my apartment, that’s a different story.

It all come down to each individuals. I

[masayako]

I don’t rent to anyone who look like they are clueless or irresponsible. If the tenants are Black or Arab, but extreme responsible people. Sure thing, I would rent to them.

However, if they dress like gangster rapper or looks like he’s going to run some Jihad shhh_iit in my apartment, that’s a different story.

It all come down to each individuals. I

[masayako]

I don’t rent to anyone who look like they are clueless or irresponsible. If the tenants are Black or Arab, but extreme responsible people. Sure thing, I would rent to them.

However, if they dress like gangster rapper or looks like he’s going to run some Jihad shhh_iit in my apartment, that’s a different story.

It all come down to each individuals. I

[masayako]

I don’t rent to anyone who look like they are clueless or irresponsible. If the tenants are Black or Arab, but extreme responsible people. Sure thing, I would rent to them.

However, if they dress like gangster rapper or looks like he’s going to run some Jihad shhh_iit in my apartment, that’s a different story.

It all come down to each individuals. I

[masayako]

I don’t rent to anyone who look like they are clueless or irresponsible. If the tenants are Black or Arab, but extreme responsible people. Sure thing, I would rent to them.

However, if they dress like gangster rapper or looks like he’s going to run some Jihad shhh_iit in my apartment, that’s a different story.

It all come down to each individuals. I

[CA renter]

[quote=davelj]You’re probably not a racist, but rather what I refer to as a “culturist” (I made this up). A thought experiment…

You have two applicants. One is a college-educated black guy with a job as an engineer; good credit, etc. The other is a high school-educated white guy that works construction with a few dings on his credit report.

If you’re a white collar – for lack of a better way of putting it – dude, you’re probably going to pick the black dude to rent to, all else being equal. Why? Because he’s probably the closer of the two to you in terms of culture, or how you view the world.

So, I doubt it’s a racial issue so much as a cultural issue (but since I don’t know you I could be wrong). Now… this is where some folks jump up and down and say, “Discriminating on the basis of culture is just veiled racism!” To which I’d respond (as EconProf pointed out), “Talk to Jesse Jackson about that and then get back to me.”

The bottom line is that we all discriminate to some degree on the basis of culture – we like to hang with folks that share a similar value system, and I think this goes well beyond race.[/quote]

Bingo. I have also used the terms “culturalism” and “culturalist” when discussing this with other people.

[CA renter]

[quote=davelj]You’re probably not a racist, but rather what I refer to as a “culturist” (I made this up). A thought experiment…

You have two applicants. One is a college-educated black guy with a job as an engineer; good credit, etc. The other is a high school-educated white guy that works construction with a few dings on his credit report.

If you’re a white collar – for lack of a better way of putting it – dude, you’re probably going to pick the black dude to rent to, all else being equal. Why? Because he’s probably the closer of the two to you in terms of culture, or how you view the world.

So, I doubt it’s a racial issue so much as a cultural issue (but since I don’t know you I could be wrong). Now… this is where some folks jump up and down and say, “Discriminating on the basis of culture is just veiled racism!” To which I’d respond (as EconProf pointed out), “Talk to Jesse Jackson about that and then get back to me.”

The bottom line is that we all discriminate to some degree on the basis of culture – we like to hang with folks that share a similar value system, and I think this goes well beyond race.[/quote]

Bingo. I have also used the terms “culturalism” and “culturalist” when discussing this with other people.

[CA renter]

[quote=davelj]You’re probably not a racist, but rather what I refer to as a “culturist” (I made this up). A thought experiment…

You have two applicants. One is a college-educated black guy with a job as an engineer; good credit, etc. The other is a high school-educated white guy that works construction with a few dings on his credit report.

If you’re a white collar – for lack of a better way of putting it – dude, you’re probably going to pick the black dude to rent to, all else being equal. Why? Because he’s probably the closer of the two to you in terms of culture, or how you view the world.

So, I doubt it’s a racial issue so much as a cultural issue (but since I don’t know you I could be wrong). Now… this is where some folks jump up and down and say, “Discriminating on the basis of culture is just veiled racism!” To which I’d respond (as EconProf pointed out), “Talk to Jesse Jackson about that and then get back to me.”

The bottom line is that we all discriminate to some degree on the basis of culture – we like to hang with folks that share a similar value system, and I think this goes well beyond race.[/quote]

Bingo. I have also used the terms “culturalism” and “culturalist” when discussing this with other people.

[CA renter]

[quote=davelj]You’re probably not a racist, but rather what I refer to as a “culturist” (I made this up). A thought experiment…

You have two applicants. One is a college-educated black guy with a job as an engineer; good credit, etc. The other is a high school-educated white guy that works construction with a few dings on his credit report.

If you’re a white collar – for lack of a better way of putting it – dude, you’re probably going to pick the black dude to rent to, all else being equal. Why? Because he’s probably the closer of the two to you in terms of culture, or how you view the world.

So, I doubt it’s a racial issue so much as a cultural issue (but since I don’t know you I could be wrong). Now… this is where some folks jump up and down and say, “Discriminating on the basis of culture is just veiled racism!” To which I’d respond (as EconProf pointed out), “Talk to Jesse Jackson about that and then get back to me.”

The bottom line is that we all discriminate to some degree on the basis of culture – we like to hang with folks that share a similar value system, and I think this goes well beyond race.[/quote]

Bingo. I have also used the terms “culturalism” and “culturalist” when discussing this with other people.

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