Am I a racist?

[zzz]

Josh, I don’t know how long your list of criteria was, did you have others, like credit check, income verification, rental history and references, lifestyle habits? When you said, you don’t want a strict Islamic living in your home, did you apply this to other strict religious types of “insert Catholic, Mormon, Latter Day Saint, cult” that may want to hold religious meetings in your home, constantly praying, setting up a shrine in your home, preaching to you, etc? I’m not going to judge your beliefs, but only hope that you don’t stereotype a book by its cover, and took the time to qualify people based on whatever your list was because that would be the intelligent thing.

I can see arguments on both sides for a lot of criteria. If you are not religious at all, and do not want your home to bear crosses, hold bible studies, or if the roommate wants to preach to you and judge you every time you crack open a beer, does that make you a bigot? What if you don’t want a roommate who is elderly, does that constitute ageism? Or too young? What about someone who’s a strict vegan and you’re a cook as much meat as possible person? What about a eliminating people because they are a cross dresser, nudist, or person who legally sells marijuana under a state license for medicinal purposes? What if you’re a gay guy who doesn’t want a straight roommate, does this make the gay guy intolerant, or simply wanting someone who can identify with his sexual preferences?

I certainly don’t condone hate based on race, sex, religion, etc. However, we are all prejudiced, whether we have preferences or dislikes for people based on race, age, sex, religion, beliefs, how they look, habits, values, money, the list can go on and on. We all judge people based on our own filter.

[NotCranky]

Nice CArenter, You are on a soapbox.
If you don’t rent to people because of statistics, by race, it is still discrimination(I don’t care what the law says). I think it is also an admission that you have good people judging skills only if the people are like you, that means you are probably trapped somewhere in xenophobia.

[NotCranky]

Nice CArenter, You are on a soapbox.
If you don’t rent to people because of statistics, by race, it is still discrimination(I don’t care what the law says). I think it is also an admission that you have good people judging skills only if the people are like you, that means you are probably trapped somewhere in xenophobia.

[NotCranky]

Nice CArenter, You are on a soapbox.
If you don’t rent to people because of statistics, by race, it is still discrimination(I don’t care what the law says). I think it is also an admission that you have good people judging skills only if the people are like you, that means you are probably trapped somewhere in xenophobia.

[NotCranky]

Nice CArenter, You are on a soapbox.
If you don’t rent to people because of statistics, by race, it is still discrimination(I don’t care what the law says). I think it is also an admission that you have good people judging skills only if the people are like you, that means you are probably trapped somewhere in xenophobia.

[NotCranky]

Nice CArenter, You are on a soapbox.
If you don’t rent to people because of statistics, by race, it is still discrimination(I don’t care what the law says). I think it is also an admission that you have good people judging skills only if the people are like you, that means you are probably trapped somewhere in xenophobia.

[briansd1]

The higher incarceration rates for Blacks is due to racism and discrimination, plain and simple.

My best friend is Black so I know Black culture pretty well. My friend is actually very smart, great at math and can beat just about anybody at chess.

Blacks are generally not racist because they don’t think that they are superior because of race. They might feel bitter and resentful.

Whites can definitely be racist because many do feel superior. That’s the difference IMO.

As far a renting out a room in my house, two criteria are most important: 1) will he pay on time without be asked, 2) will he/she be clean.

To gauge ability to pay, you have to verify income.

To gauge cleanliness, you have to look for other lifestyle clues.

What are the eating habits of the tenant? Refried beans and fried-fish will splatter grease all over and stink up your kitchen. Is he/she likely to clean up after himself will they she leave dishes all over?

Is the tenant a delicate person who does things carefully so as not to break things?

Is the tenant quiet who won’t play loud music all the time?

I think that you can tell just by taking some time to talk to the person.

Here’s another thread on roommates:
http://piggington.com/selecting_a_roommatehousemate

[briansd1]

The higher incarceration rates for Blacks is due to racism and discrimination, plain and simple.

My best friend is Black so I know Black culture pretty well. My friend is actually very smart, great at math and can beat just about anybody at chess.

Blacks are generally not racist because they don’t think that they are superior because of race. They might feel bitter and resentful.

Whites can definitely be racist because many do feel superior. That’s the difference IMO.

As far a renting out a room in my house, two criteria are most important: 1) will he pay on time without be asked, 2) will he/she be clean.

To gauge ability to pay, you have to verify income.

To gauge cleanliness, you have to look for other lifestyle clues.

What are the eating habits of the tenant? Refried beans and fried-fish will splatter grease all over and stink up your kitchen. Is he/she likely to clean up after himself will they she leave dishes all over?

Is the tenant a delicate person who does things carefully so as not to break things?

Is the tenant quiet who won’t play loud music all the time?

I think that you can tell just by taking some time to talk to the person.

Here’s another thread on roommates:
http://piggington.com/selecting_a_roommatehousemate

[briansd1]

The higher incarceration rates for Blacks is due to racism and discrimination, plain and simple.

My best friend is Black so I know Black culture pretty well. My friend is actually very smart, great at math and can beat just about anybody at chess.

Blacks are generally not racist because they don’t think that they are superior because of race. They might feel bitter and resentful.

Whites can definitely be racist because many do feel superior. That’s the difference IMO.

As far a renting out a room in my house, two criteria are most important: 1) will he pay on time without be asked, 2) will he/she be clean.

To gauge ability to pay, you have to verify income.

To gauge cleanliness, you have to look for other lifestyle clues.

What are the eating habits of the tenant? Refried beans and fried-fish will splatter grease all over and stink up your kitchen. Is he/she likely to clean up after himself will they she leave dishes all over?

Is the tenant a delicate person who does things carefully so as not to break things?

Is the tenant quiet who won’t play loud music all the time?

I think that you can tell just by taking some time to talk to the person.

Here’s another thread on roommates:
http://piggington.com/selecting_a_roommatehousemate

[briansd1]

The higher incarceration rates for Blacks is due to racism and discrimination, plain and simple.

My best friend is Black so I know Black culture pretty well. My friend is actually very smart, great at math and can beat just about anybody at chess.

Blacks are generally not racist because they don’t think that they are superior because of race. They might feel bitter and resentful.

Whites can definitely be racist because many do feel superior. That’s the difference IMO.

As far a renting out a room in my house, two criteria are most important: 1) will he pay on time without be asked, 2) will he/she be clean.

To gauge ability to pay, you have to verify income.

To gauge cleanliness, you have to look for other lifestyle clues.

What are the eating habits of the tenant? Refried beans and fried-fish will splatter grease all over and stink up your kitchen. Is he/she likely to clean up after himself will they she leave dishes all over?

Is the tenant a delicate person who does things carefully so as not to break things?

Is the tenant quiet who won’t play loud music all the time?

I think that you can tell just by taking some time to talk to the person.

Here’s another thread on roommates:
http://piggington.com/selecting_a_roommatehousemate

[briansd1]

The higher incarceration rates for Blacks is due to racism and discrimination, plain and simple.

My best friend is Black so I know Black culture pretty well. My friend is actually very smart, great at math and can beat just about anybody at chess.

Blacks are generally not racist because they don’t think that they are superior because of race. They might feel bitter and resentful.

Whites can definitely be racist because many do feel superior. That’s the difference IMO.

As far a renting out a room in my house, two criteria are most important: 1) will he pay on time without be asked, 2) will he/she be clean.

To gauge ability to pay, you have to verify income.

To gauge cleanliness, you have to look for other lifestyle clues.

What are the eating habits of the tenant? Refried beans and fried-fish will splatter grease all over and stink up your kitchen. Is he/she likely to clean up after himself will they she leave dishes all over?

Is the tenant a delicate person who does things carefully so as not to break things?

Is the tenant quiet who won’t play loud music all the time?

I think that you can tell just by taking some time to talk to the person.

Here’s another thread on roommates:
http://piggington.com/selecting_a_roommatehousemate

[urbanrealtor]

CAR:
While I find it kind of funny and ironic how you misuse terms and numbers to claim that you are “revealing fraud” or teaching us “reality” or “logic”, its really that I find it more humorous than enlightening.

Even when discussing your numbers of incarcerated offenders, the majority is non-black.

Hispanicism is not a race.

Its an ethnicity.

That is why Charlie Sheen is both white and hispanic (as am I).

You make this big argument that we need talk about this like adults and then you make these facile points about demographics.

Its not that I disagree its just that they are useless in everyday life.

You are right in that most white people who fear black people do not go through the whole chain of who owned who.
Most white people who fear blacks (I am guessing you are one)just think “black = bad”.
Then they try to dress it up with either some tortured chain of logic (like I put out) or some study about how 1 in 33 black men is in prison (like you did).
Either way its the same thing.
Its people using physical characteristics to impute social behavior.
The world does not actually work that way.
Evaluation for specific situations needs to focus on specific issues.
Its just as non-valid to deny a black tenant using your logic as it is to deny black patrons.
If you are screening tenants, you need to stick to what is important.
A rental applicant with a good rental history and solid credit is a better than one who is not.
Their national or racial religious background is not a good indicator.
What you are really arguing against here, CAR, is civil rights.
If one uses really broad studies of race or ethnic origin as a guide there is always some way to rationalize discrimination.
There were real problems with banking in pre-holocaust Germany.
There were real jobs shortages in some US cities prior to the Chinese Exclusion Act.
There are major gang issues now along the US-Mexican border.
Some argue that justifies ethnic-driven law enforcement.
This isn’t a new thing.

Here is one of my favorite cartoons on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_only_one_barred_out_cph.3b48680.jpg

[urbanrealtor]

CAR:
While I find it kind of funny and ironic how you misuse terms and numbers to claim that you are “revealing fraud” or teaching us “reality” or “logic”, its really that I find it more humorous than enlightening.

Even when discussing your numbers of incarcerated offenders, the majority is non-black.

Hispanicism is not a race.

Its an ethnicity.

That is why Charlie Sheen is both white and hispanic (as am I).

You make this big argument that we need talk about this like adults and then you make these facile points about demographics.

Its not that I disagree its just that they are useless in everyday life.

You are right in that most white people who fear black people do not go through the whole chain of who owned who.
Most white people who fear blacks (I am guessing you are one)just think “black = bad”.
Then they try to dress it up with either some tortured chain of logic (like I put out) or some study about how 1 in 33 black men is in prison (like you did).
Either way its the same thing.
Its people using physical characteristics to impute social behavior.
The world does not actually work that way.
Evaluation for specific situations needs to focus on specific issues.
Its just as non-valid to deny a black tenant using your logic as it is to deny black patrons.
If you are screening tenants, you need to stick to what is important.
A rental applicant with a good rental history and solid credit is a better than one who is not.
Their national or racial religious background is not a good indicator.
What you are really arguing against here, CAR, is civil rights.
If one uses really broad studies of race or ethnic origin as a guide there is always some way to rationalize discrimination.
There were real problems with banking in pre-holocaust Germany.
There were real jobs shortages in some US cities prior to the Chinese Exclusion Act.
There are major gang issues now along the US-Mexican border.
Some argue that justifies ethnic-driven law enforcement.
This isn’t a new thing.

Here is one of my favorite cartoons on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_only_one_barred_out_cph.3b48680.jpg

[urbanrealtor]

CAR:
While I find it kind of funny and ironic how you misuse terms and numbers to claim that you are “revealing fraud” or teaching us “reality” or “logic”, its really that I find it more humorous than enlightening.

Even when discussing your numbers of incarcerated offenders, the majority is non-black.

Hispanicism is not a race.

Its an ethnicity.

That is why Charlie Sheen is both white and hispanic (as am I).

You make this big argument that we need talk about this like adults and then you make these facile points about demographics.

Its not that I disagree its just that they are useless in everyday life.

You are right in that most white people who fear black people do not go through the whole chain of who owned who.
Most white people who fear blacks (I am guessing you are one)just think “black = bad”.
Then they try to dress it up with either some tortured chain of logic (like I put out) or some study about how 1 in 33 black men is in prison (like you did).
Either way its the same thing.
Its people using physical characteristics to impute social behavior.
The world does not actually work that way.
Evaluation for specific situations needs to focus on specific issues.
Its just as non-valid to deny a black tenant using your logic as it is to deny black patrons.
If you are screening tenants, you need to stick to what is important.
A rental applicant with a good rental history and solid credit is a better than one who is not.
Their national or racial religious background is not a good indicator.
What you are really arguing against here, CAR, is civil rights.
If one uses really broad studies of race or ethnic origin as a guide there is always some way to rationalize discrimination.
There were real problems with banking in pre-holocaust Germany.
There were real jobs shortages in some US cities prior to the Chinese Exclusion Act.
There are major gang issues now along the US-Mexican border.
Some argue that justifies ethnic-driven law enforcement.
This isn’t a new thing.

Here is one of my favorite cartoons on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_only_one_barred_out_cph.3b48680.jpg

[urbanrealtor]

CAR:
While I find it kind of funny and ironic how you misuse terms and numbers to claim that you are “revealing fraud” or teaching us “reality” or “logic”, its really that I find it more humorous than enlightening.

Even when discussing your numbers of incarcerated offenders, the majority is non-black.

Hispanicism is not a race.

Its an ethnicity.

That is why Charlie Sheen is both white and hispanic (as am I).

You make this big argument that we need talk about this like adults and then you make these facile points about demographics.

Its not that I disagree its just that they are useless in everyday life.

You are right in that most white people who fear black people do not go through the whole chain of who owned who.
Most white people who fear blacks (I am guessing you are one)just think “black = bad”.
Then they try to dress it up with either some tortured chain of logic (like I put out) or some study about how 1 in 33 black men is in prison (like you did).
Either way its the same thing.
Its people using physical characteristics to impute social behavior.
The world does not actually work that way.
Evaluation for specific situations needs to focus on specific issues.
Its just as non-valid to deny a black tenant using your logic as it is to deny black patrons.
If you are screening tenants, you need to stick to what is important.
A rental applicant with a good rental history and solid credit is a better than one who is not.
Their national or racial religious background is not a good indicator.
What you are really arguing against here, CAR, is civil rights.
If one uses really broad studies of race or ethnic origin as a guide there is always some way to rationalize discrimination.
There were real problems with banking in pre-holocaust Germany.
There were real jobs shortages in some US cities prior to the Chinese Exclusion Act.
There are major gang issues now along the US-Mexican border.
Some argue that justifies ethnic-driven law enforcement.
This isn’t a new thing.

Here is one of my favorite cartoons on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_only_one_barred_out_cph.3b48680.jpg

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