4s ranch vs. Carmel valley

[Anonymous]

I’ve lived in CV (specifically, Torrey Hills) since the beginning of 2005.

With regard to the initial question, no I do not see how it is worth the current asking prices. I’m renting and have been watching those prices inch down these last three years. They haven’t dropped much (esp in the $1M+ bracket), presumably because the population can afford to hold out for the market to rebound. However, I’m sure there’s a growing number of people who’d like to sell. Be that as it may, these are indeed tract houses, as has been pointed out. Many are huge, taking up almost the entire lot they sit on. I suppose the builders got a better profit margin that way.

I take exception, however to the “no soul” observations. My kid is in school in Torrey Hills and partly as a result of that we know lots of people in the neighborhood. Also, my wife is Chinese and thinks she is in heaven due to the high number of friendly neighbors who speak her language. It’s a rare day when we go out without seeing people we know and like. (I’m not aware of any aversion to us on the grounds of our being mere tenants.) There’s no comparison between this and an older neighborhood in San Diego where I lived for 21 years. Now there was a place where you really had to work overtime to find a friend!

We could live in Torrey Hills indefinitely. I wish I owned a 2K-sq-ft house there, of which there are a few. However, I will never buy at current prices. Again, these are still just tract houses.

[Eugene]

Any idea what will be the commute time to downtown from 4S ranch.

I’d guesstimate 1/2 hour, but it depends a lot on your exact schedule.

Is DelSur comparable to 4SRanch regarding schools, people ..etc

The thing about 4S and Del Sur, they are very new, so schools in those areas don’t have very long track record. And they are still building. Two new elementary schools are scheduled to open in Del Sur next year, for example.

Middle school in 4S (Oak Valley) is somewhat better than middle school in Del Sur (Black Mountain). Both neighborhoods are assigned to the same high school.

4S and Del Sur are both in the same highly respectable Poway school district.

[Eugene]

Any idea what will be the commute time to downtown from 4S ranch.

I’d guesstimate 1/2 hour, but it depends a lot on your exact schedule.

Is DelSur comparable to 4SRanch regarding schools, people ..etc

The thing about 4S and Del Sur, they are very new, so schools in those areas don’t have very long track record. And they are still building. Two new elementary schools are scheduled to open in Del Sur next year, for example.

Middle school in 4S (Oak Valley) is somewhat better than middle school in Del Sur (Black Mountain). Both neighborhoods are assigned to the same high school.

4S and Del Sur are both in the same highly respectable Poway school district.

[Eugene]

Any idea what will be the commute time to downtown from 4S ranch.

I’d guesstimate 1/2 hour, but it depends a lot on your exact schedule.

Is DelSur comparable to 4SRanch regarding schools, people ..etc

The thing about 4S and Del Sur, they are very new, so schools in those areas don’t have very long track record. And they are still building. Two new elementary schools are scheduled to open in Del Sur next year, for example.

Middle school in 4S (Oak Valley) is somewhat better than middle school in Del Sur (Black Mountain). Both neighborhoods are assigned to the same high school.

4S and Del Sur are both in the same highly respectable Poway school district.

[Eugene]

Any idea what will be the commute time to downtown from 4S ranch.

I’d guesstimate 1/2 hour, but it depends a lot on your exact schedule.

Is DelSur comparable to 4SRanch regarding schools, people ..etc

The thing about 4S and Del Sur, they are very new, so schools in those areas don’t have very long track record. And they are still building. Two new elementary schools are scheduled to open in Del Sur next year, for example.

Middle school in 4S (Oak Valley) is somewhat better than middle school in Del Sur (Black Mountain). Both neighborhoods are assigned to the same high school.

4S and Del Sur are both in the same highly respectable Poway school district.

[Eugene]

Any idea what will be the commute time to downtown from 4S ranch.

I’d guesstimate 1/2 hour, but it depends a lot on your exact schedule.

Is DelSur comparable to 4SRanch regarding schools, people ..etc

The thing about 4S and Del Sur, they are very new, so schools in those areas don’t have very long track record. And they are still building. Two new elementary schools are scheduled to open in Del Sur next year, for example.

Middle school in 4S (Oak Valley) is somewhat better than middle school in Del Sur (Black Mountain). Both neighborhoods are assigned to the same high school.

4S and Del Sur are both in the same highly respectable Poway school district.

[zk]

I take exception, however to the “no soul” observations. My kid is in school in Torrey Hills and partly as a result of that we know lots of people in the neighborhood. Also, my wife is Chinese and thinks she is in heaven due to the high number of friendly neighbors who speak her language. It’s a rare day when we go out without seeing people we know and like. (I’m not aware of any aversion to us on the grounds of our being mere tenants.)

Well, obviously “soul” is pretty hard to define. As I said before, there is a sense of community and it’s easy to get to know lots of people. And also, I agree with all the comments you make (right down to the Chinese wife).

I guess I’d define “soul” more as a character and a feeling all its own. Leucadia, OB, PB. Places like that are unique. CV is a very nice place with lots of nice people, but it certainly doesn’t (in my opinion) approach those places for character. CV really is pretty bland and pretty similar to a lot of other places (Scripps Ranch, 4S, etc.)

[zk]

I take exception, however to the “no soul” observations. My kid is in school in Torrey Hills and partly as a result of that we know lots of people in the neighborhood. Also, my wife is Chinese and thinks she is in heaven due to the high number of friendly neighbors who speak her language. It’s a rare day when we go out without seeing people we know and like. (I’m not aware of any aversion to us on the grounds of our being mere tenants.)

Well, obviously “soul” is pretty hard to define. As I said before, there is a sense of community and it’s easy to get to know lots of people. And also, I agree with all the comments you make (right down to the Chinese wife).

I guess I’d define “soul” more as a character and a feeling all its own. Leucadia, OB, PB. Places like that are unique. CV is a very nice place with lots of nice people, but it certainly doesn’t (in my opinion) approach those places for character. CV really is pretty bland and pretty similar to a lot of other places (Scripps Ranch, 4S, etc.)

[zk]

I take exception, however to the “no soul” observations. My kid is in school in Torrey Hills and partly as a result of that we know lots of people in the neighborhood. Also, my wife is Chinese and thinks she is in heaven due to the high number of friendly neighbors who speak her language. It’s a rare day when we go out without seeing people we know and like. (I’m not aware of any aversion to us on the grounds of our being mere tenants.)

Well, obviously “soul” is pretty hard to define. As I said before, there is a sense of community and it’s easy to get to know lots of people. And also, I agree with all the comments you make (right down to the Chinese wife).

I guess I’d define “soul” more as a character and a feeling all its own. Leucadia, OB, PB. Places like that are unique. CV is a very nice place with lots of nice people, but it certainly doesn’t (in my opinion) approach those places for character. CV really is pretty bland and pretty similar to a lot of other places (Scripps Ranch, 4S, etc.)

[zk]

I take exception, however to the “no soul” observations. My kid is in school in Torrey Hills and partly as a result of that we know lots of people in the neighborhood. Also, my wife is Chinese and thinks she is in heaven due to the high number of friendly neighbors who speak her language. It’s a rare day when we go out without seeing people we know and like. (I’m not aware of any aversion to us on the grounds of our being mere tenants.)

Well, obviously “soul” is pretty hard to define. As I said before, there is a sense of community and it’s easy to get to know lots of people. And also, I agree with all the comments you make (right down to the Chinese wife).

I guess I’d define “soul” more as a character and a feeling all its own. Leucadia, OB, PB. Places like that are unique. CV is a very nice place with lots of nice people, but it certainly doesn’t (in my opinion) approach those places for character. CV really is pretty bland and pretty similar to a lot of other places (Scripps Ranch, 4S, etc.)

[zk]

I take exception, however to the “no soul” observations. My kid is in school in Torrey Hills and partly as a result of that we know lots of people in the neighborhood. Also, my wife is Chinese and thinks she is in heaven due to the high number of friendly neighbors who speak her language. It’s a rare day when we go out without seeing people we know and like. (I’m not aware of any aversion to us on the grounds of our being mere tenants.)

Well, obviously “soul” is pretty hard to define. As I said before, there is a sense of community and it’s easy to get to know lots of people. And also, I agree with all the comments you make (right down to the Chinese wife).

I guess I’d define “soul” more as a character and a feeling all its own. Leucadia, OB, PB. Places like that are unique. CV is a very nice place with lots of nice people, but it certainly doesn’t (in my opinion) approach those places for character. CV really is pretty bland and pretty similar to a lot of other places (Scripps Ranch, 4S, etc.)

[pk92108]

Where is the soul of 4S ranch?? And is it really greener???? Didn’t it almost get laid to waste by the fires??? All track home neighborhoods lack a “soul” perhaps…

[pk92108]

Where is the soul of 4S ranch?? And is it really greener???? Didn’t it almost get laid to waste by the fires??? All track home neighborhoods lack a “soul” perhaps…

[pk92108]

Where is the soul of 4S ranch?? And is it really greener???? Didn’t it almost get laid to waste by the fires??? All track home neighborhoods lack a “soul” perhaps…

[pk92108]

Where is the soul of 4S ranch?? And is it really greener???? Didn’t it almost get laid to waste by the fires??? All track home neighborhoods lack a “soul” perhaps…

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