OK, let me explain this one. OK, let me explain this one. When I first installed comment capability on Pigg, I disallowed comments because there were so many dimwitted hater bubble apologists that I figured forcing a signup would at least weed a good chunk out (which it did).
Now that’s not so much of an issue, but the web is infested with spambots and forcing registration prevented a lot of spam, for a while. But then it didn’t, so I recently installed a new fancy-pants spam blocking system that seems to be working quite well.
So given the reduced need to worry about either permabull trolls or comment spammers, it occurred to me that we might give a try to allowing anonymous comments and just see what happens.
There doesn’t seem to be much harm in trying — if it doesn’t work out, we can go back to the Old Ways. But if it does, maybe we will get some new and interesting comments or topics. Still, I thought I’d put it out to the Pigg community first. So vote away.
Thanks!
Rich
briansd1
April 5, 2010 @
8:58 PM
Yes, annon comments will Yes, annon comments will bring new people rather than the same crowd.
no_such_reality
April 6, 2010 @
6:05 PM
We’re already anonymous. We’re already anonymous.
Allowing Anon comments doesn’t increase value added content, it just increases drive by blasts of rhethoric.
Oxford
April 6, 2010 @
8:20 PM
no
ox
…next question no
ox
…next question
lostkitty
April 7, 2010 @
4:11 AM
My vote is ‘no’ as well. My vote is ‘no’ as well.
Coronita
April 5, 2010 @
9:07 PM
Rich, no thanks. I get enough Rich, no thanks. I get enough viagra so I don’t need to be reminded by this forum 🙂
But, seriously, if you do allow anonymous comments, have considered a system like how they use on something like on some blogs including autoblog.com?
Basically, if you want to post anonymously, it’s fine. But you have to supply an valid email address. Once someone posts anonymously, a confirmation email is sent to the email address with a link. Once the user clicks the link, the post goes live.
Perhaps too complicated.
ucodegen
April 5, 2010 @
9:24 PM
Requiring a login to post Requiring a login to post discourages many of the trolls who like to start flame-wars in a drive-by shooting style. If it is important enough for someone to post and give a thought out bit of reasoning, I don’t think that the ‘login account’ would put up too much of a barrier.
CDMA ENG
April 5, 2010 @
9:41 PM
People on this blog are more People on this blog are more likely to read a post chartiable if they know the poster. Or they more inclined to answer and give some personal information (more than they would to an anon) if they have a name.
Not like ppl see me walking down the street and say “hey there is CE” but at the same time ppl open up a little more than they would otherwise.
If you say something here then ppl should be able to track the commentors history…
CE
SD Realtor
April 5, 2010 @
9:55 PM
My vote is no. My vote is no.
sdrealtor
April 5, 2010 @
9:59 PM
I vote no also.
Posters are I vote no also.
Posters are anonymous behind their screen names if they choose to be. At least requiring a user name allows us to know who is speaking and to follow comments on one or more threads. Its a great community here and I’d hate to see it change.
Aecetia
April 5, 2010 @
11:22 PM
Rich,
I voted no, also Rich,
I voted no, also because the screen names provide enough anonymity. I agree that addition may cause less civil discourse. If you read some of the comments on other blogs, they often disintegrate into name calling more than honest exchange. It is up to you, but I do not see what we would gain by allowing that. By the way, one of the polls had a lock on it to prevent further discussion. That is the first time I saw such a device. When do you lock a thread down and for what reason? Thanks.
Rich Toscano
April 5, 2010 @
11:29 PM
I locked it down bc the op I locked it down bc the op asked me to delete it. I didn’t want to delete all the posts people made so I just closed comments instead.
rich
temeculaguy
April 6, 2010 @
12:07 AM
I’m good with trying it. I’m good with trying it. While there are many nutjobs out there, there are actually quite a few with a screen name and we survived.
Here’s where I think it may be a good thing. I’ve been to two “in person” events and at each I met a very interesting “lurker.” For some reason, these people felt comfortable attending a drinking event, yet never post. The first time this happened, CAR, Mr. Car, Rich and the lurker were the last to leave. The guy was was funny and fun to drink with, when I asked why he never posted, he didn’t want to draw fire from the more opinionated folks. Some people have that personality, if it gets guys like him to step out of the shadows, then it’s a good thing.
The second example was from the more recent Sunday meet up, once again I was sitting next to someone who has never posted. She was hot, smart and not wearing a wedding ring. Rich, whatever it takes to get more of that, you got my vote.
CA renter
April 6, 2010 @
12:35 AM
LOL, TG! LOL, TG! 🙂
————-
Hope this doesn’t close off one of your dating options, but I also have to vote no for the same reasons mentioned above.
We are all technically anonymous already. It’s not like your real name is TG and mine is CAR. People can make up whatever names they want, so the anonymity argument doesn’t really hold water (IMHO). They can even call themselves anon, anon1, anon2, etc.
Back in the early days on the Housing Bubble Blog, we had anonymous posts. We all wanted to change it to usernames because that way, you could carry on a conversation/debate with a particular poster. Otherwise, you never knew who you were adressing or who was addressing you. In a debate with multiple anons, things get muddy very quickly.
Also, as was mentioned above, I think there’s a level of familiarity here. We all have our particular personalities, and it works.
Finally, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. 🙂
That’s my 2 cents.
Thanks for asking for our input, Rich! 🙂
jpinpb
April 6, 2010 @
7:18 AM
temeculaguy wrote:The second [quote=temeculaguy]The second example was from the more recent Sunday meet up, once again I was sitting next to someone who has never posted. She was hot, smart and not wearing a wedding ring. Rich, whatever it takes to get more of that, you got my vote.[/quote]
Did you not get her phone number? I thought you guys were hitting it off and you’d be a couple by now!
Just like she came to the event, so can other lurkers. I do welcome people to this blog, but I also think all of the above posts dissenting share my reasons why I vote no.
8bitnintendo
April 6, 2010 @
8:28 AM
Registering for an account Registering for an account isn’t exactly hard… all you need is a desired handle and an email address. I barely even post here at all, and I managed to get one.
UCGal
April 6, 2010 @
9:11 AM
My main reason for voting no My main reason for voting no is the one CAR mentioned… You can differentiate between different posters if there is a handle associated with them – it makes for interesting debate.
If you decide to allow anon posting – can you at least add reply numbers (Like on JtR’s blog)… that way if you didn’t want to quote an entire post – you could just say “Hey Anon at #32 – you’re wrong because bla bla bla…”. I think it would get confusing if we have a lot of anonymous posts.
I haven’t been a poster here as long as some of the others (less than 2 years) – but I like the fact that I know a bit of the perspective behind the handles… I know TG is going to make me laugh with well written prose. I know CAR is going to give me good analysis from a buyers perspective. I know SDR, sdr, and UR are going to give me good ‘boots on the ground’ insight from the industry perspective. If you don’t force a logon- then people might get lazy and stop applying their handles… and that would make me have to work harder to figure out who’s behind the posts.
(former)FormerSanDiegan
April 6, 2010 @
9:59 AM
I think you should post a I think you should post a second poll, which allows those without usernames to vote.
This poll is biased.
But, my vote is NO.. It is useful to have a name to carry on a conversation, especially since some topics span multiple days, weeks and years.
Otherwise, it is impossible to remember whether anon 27 is the same as anon-35 and anon 39, in some of the more lengthly posts.
(former)FormerSanDiegan
April 6, 2010 @
10:01 AM
Rich, one more suggestion Rich, one more suggestion …
As a compromise/test can you allow anonymous comments to your articles but not the forum topics. That would allow wide audience feedback on your main topics, without diluting the community aspect of the Forum.
Casca
April 6, 2010 @
10:16 AM
You mean these aren’t You mean these aren’t people’s real names?
curiousmind
April 6, 2010 @
10:22 AM
If anything I would try some If anything I would try some of the comment engines(ones that use SSO), at least you know the person has an account somewhere that hasn’t been banned. If someone is going to contribute to your community a 2 minute signup process shouldn’t deter them, if it does their opinion probably isn’t worth more than 2 minutes of writing/15 seconds of reading.
ucodegen
April 7, 2010 @
3:13 PM
You mean these aren’t
You mean these aren’t people’s real names?
Dang.. I thought you had to use your full name. I did.. my parents had the weird last name of ‘gen’. I was named ‘eu’, though often spelled with just ‘u’. Except for the middle name of ‘code’, I could have been a ‘eugene’ with just the addition of an ‘e’ at the end.. ah.. a kingdom for a normal name!!
weberlin
April 6, 2010 @
10:53 AM
FormerSanDiegan wrote:Rich, [quote=FormerSanDiegan]Rich, one more suggestion …
As a compromise/test can you allow anonymous comments to your articles but not the forum topics. That would allow wide audience feedback on your main topics, without diluting the community aspect of the Forum.[/quote]
I think this is an excellent idea.
jpinpb
April 6, 2010 @
5:31 PM
x2 x2
Rich Toscano
April 6, 2010 @
5:35 PM
That is a good idea but not That is a good idea but not workable… in the content management software I use, comments are comments. It’s all or nothing.
Anyway, the results are pretty clear… people aren’t into it.
Rich
patb
April 6, 2010 @
9:11 AM
temeculaguy wrote:
Here’s [quote=temeculaguy]
Here’s where I think it may be a good thing. I’ve been to two “in person” events and at each I met a very interesting “lurker.” For some reason, these people felt comfortable attending a drinking event, yet never post. The first time this happened, CAR, Mr. Car, Rich and the lurker were the last to leave. The guy was was funny and fun to drink with, when I asked why he never posted, he didn’t want to draw fire from the more opinionated folks. Some people have that personality, if it gets guys like him to step out of the shadows, then it’s a good thing.
[/quote]
That won’t change them.
I post anonymously on some boards but that’s because of my job.
outtamojo
April 6, 2010 @
7:03 AM
I voted no, it would be like I voted no, it would be like the wild wild west in around here.
svelte
April 7, 2010 @
7:57 AM
I vote no.
We are already I vote no.
We are already anonymous enough using psuedonyms.
Forcing people to take a few minutes to register keeps out many a troll and I’d like to keep it that way.
the Autoblog method would be a potential alternative, but even that will keep people from posting (I know it does me).
LesBaer45
April 7, 2010 @
8:02 AM
I am not anonymous. I AM I am not anonymous. I AM somebody, dang it!
I voted no.
barnaby33
April 7, 2010 @
8:09 AM
Whats wrong with the same old Whats wrong with the same old crowd? Sure they aren’t attractive and many of them don’t bathe regularly. Other than that though they are like comfortable shoes.
Josh
jpinpb
April 7, 2010 @
8:17 AM
My husband goes to various My husband goes to various Vespa boards and KTM boards. He had to register. KTM made him reply to an email before he could post. IMO his boards are trivial compared to Piggington. If someone is so lazy to not want to register, why should they have the privilege to post?
I did lurk for a while until I felt comfortable to post and was familiar w/the regular posters. Lurkers are welcome to sign up. We don’t bite! (well, not that hard.)
sdcellar
April 7, 2010 @
3:30 PM
jpinpb– KTM board! Tell us jpinpb– KTM board! Tell us more, exactly what does your husband do with KTMs? Now you’ve got my full and total attention!
CBad
April 7, 2010 @
3:42 PM
Wonder if Mr. CBad is talking Wonder if Mr. CBad is talking with Mr. jpinpb. My husband has a KTM 450 EXC dual sport.
LOL. My husband has a 525 EXC. It’s plated. Except he highly modified it. He put a bigger gas tank, HID light, heated hand grips, fan, etc, etc.
Does your husband ever go on trails at Silver Lake?
sdcellar – do you ride?
sdcellar
April 7, 2010 @
10:51 PM
Nice! I do ride, but strictly Nice! I do ride, but strictly off-road. KTM’s are sweet, but I’ve been a Yamaha guy my whole life. Currently ride a YZ450F. (and I think I’m the threadjacker…)
CBad
April 7, 2010 @
11:05 PM
Silver Lake or Silverwood Silver Lake or Silverwood Lake, like Miller Canyon riding area? If the latter then yep, we go there sometimes. I ride too. So do all 3 of my girls! There is some really fun single track there. A friend of ours tapes some rides with his helmet cam and he has a video of one from there on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/LotharTheWarrior#p/a/u/2/v9NJsjeWqNc
jpinpb
April 8, 2010 @
8:20 AM
Wow. Great video. That’s Wow. Great video. That’s one heck of a very cool ride. I’m not sure if it’s Silver Lake or Silverwood Lake. I’ll ask him tonight. That might very well be the place. I know it’s off the 15 in San Bernardino County somewhere and every time he takes someone out here, they hate him b/c the single track trails are supposed to be treacherous. And I know there’s a really deep water crossing. Everyone seems to have a hard time w/it. I’ve never been.
I only took the TTR we have to Pine Valley. Gosh that looks like fun. Very cool that your girls ride, too. I don’t ride that much any more. Back in the day when I was a kid, I had a Yamaha 80. That was actually my first vehicle. It was street legal, too.
poorgradstudent
April 7, 2010 @
11:14 AM
Overall, if someone can’t be Overall, if someone can’t be bothered to make a free registration, their opinion doesn’t really matter.
I’m not sure if it’s possible, but one option would be to allow anon comments on certain threads, such as those Rich posts on the main page.
Anon comments are great for things like movies, celebrity gossip, and anything where anyone can have an opinion. For serious discussion I’m pretty sure anons would add a lot less than they would take away.
April 5, 2010 @ 8:16 PM
OK, let me explain this one.
OK, let me explain this one. When I first installed comment capability on Pigg, I disallowed comments because there were so many dimwitted hater bubble apologists that I figured forcing a signup would at least weed a good chunk out (which it did).
Now that’s not so much of an issue, but the web is infested with spambots and forcing registration prevented a lot of spam, for a while. But then it didn’t, so I recently installed a new fancy-pants spam blocking system that seems to be working quite well.
So given the reduced need to worry about either permabull trolls or comment spammers, it occurred to me that we might give a try to allowing anonymous comments and just see what happens.
There doesn’t seem to be much harm in trying — if it doesn’t work out, we can go back to the Old Ways. But if it does, maybe we will get some new and interesting comments or topics. Still, I thought I’d put it out to the Pigg community first. So vote away.
Thanks!
Rich
April 5, 2010 @ 8:58 PM
Yes, annon comments will
Yes, annon comments will bring new people rather than the same crowd.
April 6, 2010 @ 6:05 PM
We’re already anonymous.
We’re already anonymous.
Allowing Anon comments doesn’t increase value added content, it just increases drive by blasts of rhethoric.
April 6, 2010 @ 8:20 PM
no
ox
…next question
no
ox
…next question
April 7, 2010 @ 4:11 AM
My vote is ‘no’ as well.
My vote is ‘no’ as well.
April 5, 2010 @ 9:07 PM
Rich, no thanks. I get enough
Rich, no thanks. I get enough viagra so I don’t need to be reminded by this forum 🙂
But, seriously, if you do allow anonymous comments, have considered a system like how they use on something like on some blogs including autoblog.com?
Basically, if you want to post anonymously, it’s fine. But you have to supply an valid email address. Once someone posts anonymously, a confirmation email is sent to the email address with a link. Once the user clicks the link, the post goes live.
Perhaps too complicated.
April 5, 2010 @ 9:24 PM
Requiring a login to post
Requiring a login to post discourages many of the trolls who like to start flame-wars in a drive-by shooting style. If it is important enough for someone to post and give a thought out bit of reasoning, I don’t think that the ‘login account’ would put up too much of a barrier.
April 5, 2010 @ 9:41 PM
People on this blog are more
People on this blog are more likely to read a post chartiable if they know the poster. Or they more inclined to answer and give some personal information (more than they would to an anon) if they have a name.
Not like ppl see me walking down the street and say “hey there is CE” but at the same time ppl open up a little more than they would otherwise.
If you say something here then ppl should be able to track the commentors history…
CE
April 5, 2010 @ 9:55 PM
My vote is no.
My vote is no.
April 5, 2010 @ 9:59 PM
I vote no also.
Posters are
I vote no also.
Posters are anonymous behind their screen names if they choose to be. At least requiring a user name allows us to know who is speaking and to follow comments on one or more threads. Its a great community here and I’d hate to see it change.
April 5, 2010 @ 11:22 PM
Rich,
I voted no, also
Rich,
I voted no, also because the screen names provide enough anonymity. I agree that addition may cause less civil discourse. If you read some of the comments on other blogs, they often disintegrate into name calling more than honest exchange. It is up to you, but I do not see what we would gain by allowing that. By the way, one of the polls had a lock on it to prevent further discussion. That is the first time I saw such a device. When do you lock a thread down and for what reason? Thanks.
April 5, 2010 @ 11:29 PM
I locked it down bc the op
I locked it down bc the op asked me to delete it. I didn’t want to delete all the posts people made so I just closed comments instead.
rich
April 6, 2010 @ 12:07 AM
I’m good with trying it.
I’m good with trying it. While there are many nutjobs out there, there are actually quite a few with a screen name and we survived.
Here’s where I think it may be a good thing. I’ve been to two “in person” events and at each I met a very interesting “lurker.” For some reason, these people felt comfortable attending a drinking event, yet never post. The first time this happened, CAR, Mr. Car, Rich and the lurker were the last to leave. The guy was was funny and fun to drink with, when I asked why he never posted, he didn’t want to draw fire from the more opinionated folks. Some people have that personality, if it gets guys like him to step out of the shadows, then it’s a good thing.
The second example was from the more recent Sunday meet up, once again I was sitting next to someone who has never posted. She was hot, smart and not wearing a wedding ring. Rich, whatever it takes to get more of that, you got my vote.
April 6, 2010 @ 12:35 AM
LOL, TG!
LOL, TG! 🙂
————-
Hope this doesn’t close off one of your dating options, but I also have to vote no for the same reasons mentioned above.
We are all technically anonymous already. It’s not like your real name is TG and mine is CAR. People can make up whatever names they want, so the anonymity argument doesn’t really hold water (IMHO). They can even call themselves anon, anon1, anon2, etc.
Back in the early days on the Housing Bubble Blog, we had anonymous posts. We all wanted to change it to usernames because that way, you could carry on a conversation/debate with a particular poster. Otherwise, you never knew who you were adressing or who was addressing you. In a debate with multiple anons, things get muddy very quickly.
Also, as was mentioned above, I think there’s a level of familiarity here. We all have our particular personalities, and it works.
Finally, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. 🙂
That’s my 2 cents.
Thanks for asking for our input, Rich! 🙂
April 6, 2010 @ 7:18 AM
temeculaguy wrote:The second
[quote=temeculaguy]The second example was from the more recent Sunday meet up, once again I was sitting next to someone who has never posted. She was hot, smart and not wearing a wedding ring. Rich, whatever it takes to get more of that, you got my vote.[/quote]
Did you not get her phone number? I thought you guys were hitting it off and you’d be a couple by now!
Just like she came to the event, so can other lurkers. I do welcome people to this blog, but I also think all of the above posts dissenting share my reasons why I vote no.
April 6, 2010 @ 8:28 AM
Registering for an account
Registering for an account isn’t exactly hard… all you need is a desired handle and an email address. I barely even post here at all, and I managed to get one.
April 6, 2010 @ 9:11 AM
My main reason for voting no
My main reason for voting no is the one CAR mentioned… You can differentiate between different posters if there is a handle associated with them – it makes for interesting debate.
If you decide to allow anon posting – can you at least add reply numbers (Like on JtR’s blog)… that way if you didn’t want to quote an entire post – you could just say “Hey Anon at #32 – you’re wrong because bla bla bla…”. I think it would get confusing if we have a lot of anonymous posts.
I haven’t been a poster here as long as some of the others (less than 2 years) – but I like the fact that I know a bit of the perspective behind the handles… I know TG is going to make me laugh with well written prose. I know CAR is going to give me good analysis from a buyers perspective. I know SDR, sdr, and UR are going to give me good ‘boots on the ground’ insight from the industry perspective. If you don’t force a logon- then people might get lazy and stop applying their handles… and that would make me have to work harder to figure out who’s behind the posts.
April 6, 2010 @ 9:59 AM
I think you should post a
I think you should post a second poll, which allows those without usernames to vote.
This poll is biased.
But, my vote is NO.. It is useful to have a name to carry on a conversation, especially since some topics span multiple days, weeks and years.
Otherwise, it is impossible to remember whether anon 27 is the same as anon-35 and anon 39, in some of the more lengthly posts.
April 6, 2010 @ 10:01 AM
Rich, one more suggestion
Rich, one more suggestion …
As a compromise/test can you allow anonymous comments to your articles but not the forum topics. That would allow wide audience feedback on your main topics, without diluting the community aspect of the Forum.
April 6, 2010 @ 10:16 AM
You mean these aren’t
You mean these aren’t people’s real names?
April 6, 2010 @ 10:22 AM
If anything I would try some
If anything I would try some of the comment engines(ones that use SSO), at least you know the person has an account somewhere that hasn’t been banned. If someone is going to contribute to your community a 2 minute signup process shouldn’t deter them, if it does their opinion probably isn’t worth more than 2 minutes of writing/15 seconds of reading.
April 7, 2010 @ 3:13 PM
You mean these aren’t
Dang.. I thought you had to use your full name. I did.. my parents had the weird last name of ‘gen’. I was named ‘eu’, though often spelled with just ‘u’. Except for the middle name of ‘code’, I could have been a ‘eugene’ with just the addition of an ‘e’ at the end.. ah.. a kingdom for a normal name!!
April 6, 2010 @ 10:53 AM
FormerSanDiegan wrote:Rich,
[quote=FormerSanDiegan]Rich, one more suggestion …
As a compromise/test can you allow anonymous comments to your articles but not the forum topics. That would allow wide audience feedback on your main topics, without diluting the community aspect of the Forum.[/quote]
I think this is an excellent idea.
April 6, 2010 @ 5:31 PM
x2
x2
April 6, 2010 @ 5:35 PM
That is a good idea but not
That is a good idea but not workable… in the content management software I use, comments are comments. It’s all or nothing.
Anyway, the results are pretty clear… people aren’t into it.
Rich
April 6, 2010 @ 9:11 AM
temeculaguy wrote:
Here’s
[quote=temeculaguy]
Here’s where I think it may be a good thing. I’ve been to two “in person” events and at each I met a very interesting “lurker.” For some reason, these people felt comfortable attending a drinking event, yet never post. The first time this happened, CAR, Mr. Car, Rich and the lurker were the last to leave. The guy was was funny and fun to drink with, when I asked why he never posted, he didn’t want to draw fire from the more opinionated folks. Some people have that personality, if it gets guys like him to step out of the shadows, then it’s a good thing.
[/quote]
That won’t change them.
I post anonymously on some boards but that’s because of my job.
April 6, 2010 @ 7:03 AM
I voted no, it would be like
I voted no, it would be like the wild wild west in around here.
April 7, 2010 @ 7:57 AM
I vote no.
We are already
I vote no.
We are already anonymous enough using psuedonyms.
Forcing people to take a few minutes to register keeps out many a troll and I’d like to keep it that way.
the Autoblog method would be a potential alternative, but even that will keep people from posting (I know it does me).
April 7, 2010 @ 8:02 AM
I am not anonymous. I AM
I am not anonymous. I AM somebody, dang it!
I voted no.
April 7, 2010 @ 8:09 AM
Whats wrong with the same old
Whats wrong with the same old crowd? Sure they aren’t attractive and many of them don’t bathe regularly. Other than that though they are like comfortable shoes.
Josh
April 7, 2010 @ 8:17 AM
My husband goes to various
My husband goes to various Vespa boards and KTM boards. He had to register. KTM made him reply to an email before he could post. IMO his boards are trivial compared to Piggington. If someone is so lazy to not want to register, why should they have the privilege to post?
I did lurk for a while until I felt comfortable to post and was familiar w/the regular posters. Lurkers are welcome to sign up. We don’t bite! (well, not that hard.)
April 7, 2010 @ 3:30 PM
jpinpb– KTM board! Tell us
jpinpb– KTM board! Tell us more, exactly what does your husband do with KTMs? Now you’ve got my full and total attention!
April 7, 2010 @ 3:42 PM
Wonder if Mr. CBad is talking
Wonder if Mr. CBad is talking with Mr. jpinpb. My husband has a KTM 450 EXC dual sport.
April 7, 2010 @ 5:09 PM
Sorry – thread hijack –
LOL.
Sorry – thread hijack –
LOL. My husband has a 525 EXC. It’s plated. Except he highly modified it. He put a bigger gas tank, HID light, heated hand grips, fan, etc, etc.
Does your husband ever go on trails at Silver Lake?
sdcellar – do you ride?
April 7, 2010 @ 10:51 PM
Nice! I do ride, but strictly
Nice! I do ride, but strictly off-road. KTM’s are sweet, but I’ve been a Yamaha guy my whole life. Currently ride a YZ450F. (and I think I’m the threadjacker…)
April 7, 2010 @ 11:05 PM
Silver Lake or Silverwood
Silver Lake or Silverwood Lake, like Miller Canyon riding area? If the latter then yep, we go there sometimes. I ride too. So do all 3 of my girls! There is some really fun single track there. A friend of ours tapes some rides with his helmet cam and he has a video of one from there on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/LotharTheWarrior#p/a/u/2/v9NJsjeWqNc
April 8, 2010 @ 8:20 AM
Wow. Great video. That’s
Wow. Great video. That’s one heck of a very cool ride. I’m not sure if it’s Silver Lake or Silverwood Lake. I’ll ask him tonight. That might very well be the place. I know it’s off the 15 in San Bernardino County somewhere and every time he takes someone out here, they hate him b/c the single track trails are supposed to be treacherous. And I know there’s a really deep water crossing. Everyone seems to have a hard time w/it. I’ve never been.
I only took the TTR we have to Pine Valley. Gosh that looks like fun. Very cool that your girls ride, too. I don’t ride that much any more. Back in the day when I was a kid, I had a Yamaha 80. That was actually my first vehicle. It was street legal, too.
April 7, 2010 @ 11:14 AM
Overall, if someone can’t be
Overall, if someone can’t be bothered to make a free registration, their opinion doesn’t really matter.
I’m not sure if it’s possible, but one option would be to allow anon comments on certain threads, such as those Rich posts on the main page.
Anon comments are great for things like movies, celebrity gossip, and anything where anyone can have an opinion. For serious discussion I’m pretty sure anons would add a lot less than they would take away.