I like this poll feature. It I like this poll feature. It allows respondents to stay anonymous, away from the spotlight.
This topic ties nicely with the topic of unauthorized immigration. Should we expand immigration of skilled workers to America?
looking
April 30, 2010 @
9:07 AM
There have been changes to There have been changes to the laws in recent years which make it much harder to go from an H1B visa to permanent residence. Although it is still possible for an employer to sponsor a person, it can be risky since they must prove that there are no US residents who could MINIMALLY do the job that the person was originally hired into the company for. For example, if someone came here a few years ago in an entry-level position but rose quickly to a management level, the company has to prove that there is no US person who could fill the entry-level position.
meadandale
April 30, 2010 @
9:09 AM
Not only no but F$%& NO!!! Not only no but F$%& NO!!!
MadeInTaiwan
April 30, 2010 @
12:47 PM
I firmly support increasing I firmly support increasing H1B visas, but it will only work if in conjunction we speed up the Green Card application process. Otherwise, we are inviting employer abuse. The reasons are obvious, H1B visa holders have less security (after leaving one sponsor they need to find one within 4 or 6 weeks before leaving), hence they get paid up to a 1/3 less for the same work. I had a manager who was trying to figure out a way to only interview H1B candidates (Ironically he was transfered here from Sweeden).
From my anacdotal contact wtih former and recent H1B Visa holders I get the impression that Green Card wait times have gone up from around two years max to over five years. I get the impression that most of the delay is due to employers dragging their feet.
As CONCHO points out a lot of tech jobs are going overseas anyways due to lower labor cost. The only chance we have is to lure the world’s best and brightest (which most of the H1B holders are) and hope that some of them will create the next Intel, Google, Ebay, Carnival Cruises, Nvidia, QualComm etc.
IMHO the worst scneario is these future industry titans gets feed up with the current anti-immigrant sentiment and say “screw it, I am making something of myself in [China/India/Korea/Israel/Brazil], the food is better anyways”.
Did anyone notice the provision in one of the immigration reform proposals that upgrades student visas to green cards automatically upon graudation? I think that is way more significant and will have much larger impact then any “amnesty”
Anyways, increase the H1B Visa ten fold, lower the employer appication fee. Anyone getting a H1B automatically gets in the Green Card queue, and make the wait/investigation period no more then 2 years.
We will take a short term hit on employment, with the hope of future growth.
Unfortunately, with sentiments like meadandale’s bellow, I doubt what I propse is politically feasible
[quote=meadandale]Not only no but F$%& NO!!![/quote]
Btw, want to lower legal/illegal immigration? have a tanking economy. I read somewhere that California is majority white again (or there is a delay in whites no longer the majority) because of people leaving due to the poor economy.
briansd1
April 30, 2010 @
1:09 PM
MadeInTaiwan, all excellent MadeInTaiwan, all excellent ideals.
America’s superiority still is our university system. Foreign students from all around the world want to come and study here. They will come and pay out-of-pocket for the expensive education. They bring educational discipline and background; and they pay for their own college education.
It would be a great idea to automatically grant Green Cards to students who graduate, in any field, from the top x hundred number of accredited universities (to weed out diploma mills).
That alone would allow us to attract and retain the brightest young people in the world.
blahblahblah
April 30, 2010 @
9:19 AM
No need for the increase we No need for the increase we don’t need them anymore because all of the work will soon be done in India and China. Only military-related engineering will be done in the US soon.
all
April 30, 2010 @
11:52 AM
Assuming the list of Assuming the list of qualifying occupations is expanded to include lawyers, doctors and dentists. I can understand people being unaware of Swiss doctors’ skills, but dentists? It’s drill, baby, drill.
Same drills, same teeth.
fun4vnay2
April 30, 2010 @
1:17 PM
I am still on H1B though I I am still on H1B though I came here 8 yrs back to USA to do my masters in EE
I changed multiple jobs for career reasons thus not giving prioritizing over my Green Card.
My green card application had to be started multiple times because of job change
If a new better opportunity comes up, I won’t hesitate changing the job.
Whenever I enter US, the Immigration Officials are always surprised that how can I earn so much $$ at this young age ( early thirties ) and that too being on Visa.
Frankly: It sucks to see that everyone talks about illegal immigration but no one talks about people like us who came here,got advance degree, paying $$ as taxes to Govt for so long..
The legal immigration system is entirely broken
I have strong feeling about illegal immigration..
Doofrat
April 30, 2010 @
1:58 PM
At the last place I worked, At the last place I worked, we had hired a DBA on an H1B. Guy made around 6 figures. H1B expired, so they sent him to work in our Australian office. I’m sure Australia is happy to have a guy with that kind of knowledge who pulls 6 figures into their country.
Don’t worry though, I’m sure the illegal who washed the dishes at the French Gourmet in P.B. found another local job.
MadeInTaiwan
April 30, 2010 @
2:14 PM
doofrat wrote:At the last [quote=doofrat]At the last place I worked, we had hired a DBA on an H1B. Guy made around 6 figures. H1B expired, so they sent him to work in our Australian office. I’m sure Australia is happy to have a guy with that kind of knowledge who pulls 6 figures into their country.
Don’t worry though, I’m sure the illegal who washed the dishes at the French Gourmet in P.B. found another local job.[/quote]
Exactly, I think legal high skill immigration is a much bigger, important issue, but low skill illegal immigration gets all the emotion and attention.
Actually, I would call it high skill job creating immigration.
My opinion is that you can’t have a strict low skill illegal immagration policy and an open, welcoming high skill legal immigration policy at the same time, at least not in the U.S. I know.
Therefore, to address the real issue of high skill immigration we have to live with the problem of illegal immigration.
April 29, 2010 @ 9:04 PM
I like this poll feature. It
I like this poll feature. It allows respondents to stay anonymous, away from the spotlight.
This topic ties nicely with the topic of unauthorized immigration. Should we expand immigration of skilled workers to America?
April 30, 2010 @ 9:07 AM
There have been changes to
There have been changes to the laws in recent years which make it much harder to go from an H1B visa to permanent residence. Although it is still possible for an employer to sponsor a person, it can be risky since they must prove that there are no US residents who could MINIMALLY do the job that the person was originally hired into the company for. For example, if someone came here a few years ago in an entry-level position but rose quickly to a management level, the company has to prove that there is no US person who could fill the entry-level position.
April 30, 2010 @ 9:09 AM
Not only no but F$%& NO!!!
Not only no but F$%& NO!!!
April 30, 2010 @ 12:47 PM
I firmly support increasing
I firmly support increasing H1B visas, but it will only work if in conjunction we speed up the Green Card application process. Otherwise, we are inviting employer abuse. The reasons are obvious, H1B visa holders have less security (after leaving one sponsor they need to find one within 4 or 6 weeks before leaving), hence they get paid up to a 1/3 less for the same work. I had a manager who was trying to figure out a way to only interview H1B candidates (Ironically he was transfered here from Sweeden).
From my anacdotal contact wtih former and recent H1B Visa holders I get the impression that Green Card wait times have gone up from around two years max to over five years. I get the impression that most of the delay is due to employers dragging their feet.
As CONCHO points out a lot of tech jobs are going overseas anyways due to lower labor cost. The only chance we have is to lure the world’s best and brightest (which most of the H1B holders are) and hope that some of them will create the next Intel, Google, Ebay, Carnival Cruises, Nvidia, QualComm etc.
IMHO the worst scneario is these future industry titans gets feed up with the current anti-immigrant sentiment and say “screw it, I am making something of myself in [China/India/Korea/Israel/Brazil], the food is better anyways”.
Did anyone notice the provision in one of the immigration reform proposals that upgrades student visas to green cards automatically upon graudation? I think that is way more significant and will have much larger impact then any “amnesty”
Anyways, increase the H1B Visa ten fold, lower the employer appication fee. Anyone getting a H1B automatically gets in the Green Card queue, and make the wait/investigation period no more then 2 years.
We will take a short term hit on employment, with the hope of future growth.
Unfortunately, with sentiments like meadandale’s bellow, I doubt what I propse is politically feasible
[quote=meadandale]Not only no but F$%& NO!!![/quote]
Btw, want to lower legal/illegal immigration? have a tanking economy. I read somewhere that California is majority white again (or there is a delay in whites no longer the majority) because of people leaving due to the poor economy.
April 30, 2010 @ 1:09 PM
MadeInTaiwan, all excellent
MadeInTaiwan, all excellent ideals.
America’s superiority still is our university system. Foreign students from all around the world want to come and study here. They will come and pay out-of-pocket for the expensive education. They bring educational discipline and background; and they pay for their own college education.
It would be a great idea to automatically grant Green Cards to students who graduate, in any field, from the top x hundred number of accredited universities (to weed out diploma mills).
That alone would allow us to attract and retain the brightest young people in the world.
April 30, 2010 @ 9:19 AM
No need for the increase we
No need for the increase we don’t need them anymore because all of the work will soon be done in India and China. Only military-related engineering will be done in the US soon.
April 30, 2010 @ 11:52 AM
Assuming the list of
Assuming the list of qualifying occupations is expanded to include lawyers, doctors and dentists. I can understand people being unaware of Swiss doctors’ skills, but dentists? It’s drill, baby, drill.
Same drills, same teeth.
April 30, 2010 @ 1:17 PM
I am still on H1B though I
I am still on H1B though I came here 8 yrs back to USA to do my masters in EE
I changed multiple jobs for career reasons thus not giving prioritizing over my Green Card.
My green card application had to be started multiple times because of job change
If a new better opportunity comes up, I won’t hesitate changing the job.
Whenever I enter US, the Immigration Officials are always surprised that how can I earn so much $$ at this young age ( early thirties ) and that too being on Visa.
Frankly: It sucks to see that everyone talks about illegal immigration but no one talks about people like us who came here,got advance degree, paying $$ as taxes to Govt for so long..
The legal immigration system is entirely broken
I have strong feeling about illegal immigration..
April 30, 2010 @ 1:58 PM
At the last place I worked,
At the last place I worked, we had hired a DBA on an H1B. Guy made around 6 figures. H1B expired, so they sent him to work in our Australian office. I’m sure Australia is happy to have a guy with that kind of knowledge who pulls 6 figures into their country.
Don’t worry though, I’m sure the illegal who washed the dishes at the French Gourmet in P.B. found another local job.
April 30, 2010 @ 2:14 PM
doofrat wrote:At the last
[quote=doofrat]At the last place I worked, we had hired a DBA on an H1B. Guy made around 6 figures. H1B expired, so they sent him to work in our Australian office. I’m sure Australia is happy to have a guy with that kind of knowledge who pulls 6 figures into their country.
Don’t worry though, I’m sure the illegal who washed the dishes at the French Gourmet in P.B. found another local job.[/quote]
Exactly, I think legal high skill immigration is a much bigger, important issue, but low skill illegal immigration gets all the emotion and attention.
Actually, I would call it high skill job creating immigration.
My opinion is that you can’t have a strict low skill illegal immagration policy and an open, welcoming high skill legal immigration policy at the same time, at least not in the U.S. I know.
Therefore, to address the real issue of high skill immigration we have to live with the problem of illegal immigration.
MadeInTaiwn