I think that women want the I think that women want the knowledge that a home that is owned is harder to get rid of than a home that is rented. Which give women an added level of security knowing that a divorce would be harder if a home is owned rather than rented.
HarryBosch
August 16, 2008 @
8:09 AM
I also think that men on a I also think that men on a subconscious level realize that a way to attract a woman is if they own their own home rather than rent it. Because an owned home by a male represents the potential for building a more stable life with a female than if the home were rented.
I think that these are the emotional and psychological variables of owning rather than renting.
HarryBosch
August 16, 2008 @
8:20 AM
Renters make mobility easier. Renters make mobility easier. And a mobile male is not an attraction to a female that wants roots. Roots represent a place to grow a stable future, a stable family.
An extreme example of a renter – the far side of the rent/own spectrum – is the nomad. The price for renting is $0.
Aecetia
August 16, 2008 @
10:32 AM
Nesting instinct. Nesting instinct.
Eugene
August 16, 2008 @
1:04 PM
Classic:
“Men definitely hit Classic:
“Men definitely hit the remote more than women…men don’t care what’s on TV, men only care what else is on TV. Women want to see what the show is before they change the channel, because men hunt and women nest.”
kev374
August 16, 2008 @
1:17 PM
It is the nesting instinct. It is the nesting instinct. It is very strong with most women, wandering around from place to place is not appealing to them since women place more value on building relationships with the community.
I have friends who are women and they are ready to buy right now. When I tell them to wait a little longer they will hear none of it.
On the other hand my male friends are skeptical of buying because they all feel they will lose their shirts if they buy right now.
Aecetia
August 16, 2008 @
7:10 PM
And the men do not want to be And the men do not want to be tied down: footloose and fancy free.
JC
August 17, 2008 @
7:57 AM
I’m female. I may be an I’m female. I may be an oddity, but my prime motivator for wanting to own is just to find a decent place to live where I can have my dog. (The rentals available to dog owners are terrible and/or VERY expensive). I understand why, but it is still very frustrating.
Anonymous
August 17, 2008 @
9:43 AM
In the last few years, many In the last few years, many of my single female friends in their 20s and 30s have purchased homes. (Many are now underwater.) Whereas I don’t have any single male friends who bought homes.
When you’re a single guy… there are a lot of better ways to spend money. You can get one kick-ass motorcycle for less than a full living room set from Pottery Barn.
I recently got married. The first thing my wife wanted to do was buy a house. Although we can afford something in the $800k – $1MM range, the options in this range in the Santa Monica/Venice area are pretty crappy. I am not going to buy a million dollar home that friends back in the midwest would consider a “shack”.
I explained in great detail to my wife why paying $3,000 a month to rent a house rent is a far better bargain than forking out $200,000 cash at closing and paying mortgage, taxes, insurance and maintainance of $6,500 a month or so. She came around to my point of thinking… but reluctantly at first. None of her female friends think she is making a wise choice. They constantly tell her she is “throwing money away”.
Her sister just sold their townhouse and purchased a larger new home, with an interest-only loan (yeah, i didn’t think these still existed anymore, either). She blew all the profits from the townhome sale, and most of their savings on remodeling. She is now working a second job and wants her husband to do the same.
I think most guys would be pretty happy in a one-bedroom apartment, as long as it had a lot of garage space for our toys and tools.
Newblet
August 17, 2008 @
9:48 AM
OMG one-bedroom apartment OMG one-bedroom apartment with an attached 6-car garage… WANT!!!
sdrealtor
August 17, 2008 @
10:33 AM
I love a nice house with I love a nice house with friendly neighbors that my kids can grow up with. I love walking my kids to school and riding our bikes around the neighborhood. I love the long term security and stability that comes with owning a home. I love that I will be able to take my very low tax basis with me to my beach retirement pad if I choose to do so. I love that I could keep my house in retirement, travel and generate a large monthly positive from it.
More than anything, I love that when it’s time for me to go into the dirt, I can pass all this on to one of my kids who I hold more dearly than anything in the world and they can enjoy the same with their family.
All of the above is virtually meaningless to my wife. She has very different values and its all about today for her.
jficquette
August 17, 2008 @
10:54 AM
Newblet wrote:OMG one-bedroom [quote=Newblet]OMG one-bedroom apartment with an attached 6-car garage… WANT!!![/quote]
Two bedrooms, one to fill up with TV’s and computers. Also need small place out back for BBQ grill. Small Weber will do. Then add on 6 car garage. Use 2 cars of space for weights and gym equipment.
Heaven on Earth.
John
5yes
August 17, 2008 @
12:02 PM
My husband loves to work on My husband loves to work on “projects” and fix things, he feels constantly irritated to be in rental without the opportunity to do what he would like to the house. We are in our late 20s and the people we know who bought in the last 5 years are miserably underwater or foreclosed on. He knows it is wise to wait but he is still on redfin everyday trying to convince me that he found a great deal! In Temecula, there actually ARE some good deals but I think the prices are still headed lower.
pk92108
August 17, 2008 @
5:06 PM
Sure women want to own Sure women want to own because they are looking for a “daddy figure”, consciously or subconsciously….And most likely their real daddy owned so they want to own too….They like the “security” and also want to grab half of it when and if the relationship goes south….
pk92108
August 17, 2008 @
5:06 PM
Sure women want to own Sure women want to own because they are looking for a “daddy figure”, consciously or subconsciously….And most likely their real daddy owned so they want to own too….They like the “security” and also want to grab half of it when and if the relationship goes south….
Reality
August 17, 2008 @
10:31 AM
Will Sterling wrote:In the [quote=Will Sterling]In the last few years, many of my single female friends in their 20s and 30s have purchased homes. (Many are now underwater.) Whereas I don’t have any single male friends who bought homes.
[/quote]
Men tend to think more rationally, and buying in the last few years has not been a rational move.
Reality
August 17, 2008 @
10:35 AM
Will Sterling wrote:
I [quote=Will Sterling]
I recently got married. The first thing my wife wanted to do was buy a house. Although we can afford something in the $800k – $1MM range, the options in this range in the Santa Monica/Venice area are pretty crappy. I am not going to buy a million dollar home that friends back in the midwest would consider a “shack”.
I explained in great detail to my wife why paying $3,000 a month to rent a house rent is a far better bargain than forking out $200,000 cash at closing and paying mortgage, taxes, insurance and maintainance of $6,500 a month or so. She came around to my point of thinking… but reluctantly at first. None of her female friends think she is making a wise choice. They constantly tell her she is “throwing money away”.
[/quote]
Didn’t you discuss any of this with her before you got married?
DWCAP
August 18, 2008 @
10:18 AM
In my experience, women tend In my experience, women tend to have a better defined life plan than men do. I have had a friend for a very long time who knew from before I met her (age 13) that she would be married on 7/7/07. She was, and I can honestly say she loves the guy whole heartedly; as he does. The thing is, I have no parallel to my male friends. Most of them have ranges, i.e. I want to get married about 30, if it is 29 or 31 that is irrelevant.
I think buying a house is apart of the plan for alot of women. Get married at 25, buy a house at 27, kids before 30. These are rather precise numbers, and missing them due to larger economic realities is either disturbing, or unacceptable. To watch their friends, who they are freakishly competive with BTW, move on with their “life plan” when they just have to sit and wait is a very bitter pill to swallow. This isnt to say that men cant get caught up too. They may have a wider range (buy a house in my early 30’s) but if they are forced to wait to 38 due to the same realities, they will get just as upset and prob alot more angry.
There are considerations about kids, or pets, or stability and commitment that may be involved. But often I have found these are more reasons/excuses rather than the underlying personal driving force. Plus women tend to get it alot worse from the family then men do.
August 16, 2008 @ 8:05 AM
I think that women want the
I think that women want the knowledge that a home that is owned is harder to get rid of than a home that is rented. Which give women an added level of security knowing that a divorce would be harder if a home is owned rather than rented.
August 16, 2008 @ 8:09 AM
I also think that men on a
I also think that men on a subconscious level realize that a way to attract a woman is if they own their own home rather than rent it. Because an owned home by a male represents the potential for building a more stable life with a female than if the home were rented.
I think that these are the emotional and psychological variables of owning rather than renting.
August 16, 2008 @ 8:20 AM
Renters make mobility easier.
Renters make mobility easier. And a mobile male is not an attraction to a female that wants roots. Roots represent a place to grow a stable future, a stable family.
An extreme example of a renter – the far side of the rent/own spectrum – is the nomad. The price for renting is $0.
August 16, 2008 @ 10:32 AM
Nesting instinct.
Nesting instinct.
August 16, 2008 @ 1:04 PM
Classic:
“Men definitely hit
Classic:
“Men definitely hit the remote more than women…men don’t care what’s on TV, men only care what else is on TV. Women want to see what the show is before they change the channel, because men hunt and women nest.”
August 16, 2008 @ 1:17 PM
It is the nesting instinct.
It is the nesting instinct. It is very strong with most women, wandering around from place to place is not appealing to them since women place more value on building relationships with the community.
I have friends who are women and they are ready to buy right now. When I tell them to wait a little longer they will hear none of it.
On the other hand my male friends are skeptical of buying because they all feel they will lose their shirts if they buy right now.
August 16, 2008 @ 7:10 PM
And the men do not want to be
And the men do not want to be tied down: footloose and fancy free.
August 17, 2008 @ 7:57 AM
I’m female. I may be an
I’m female. I may be an oddity, but my prime motivator for wanting to own is just to find a decent place to live where I can have my dog. (The rentals available to dog owners are terrible and/or VERY expensive). I understand why, but it is still very frustrating.
August 17, 2008 @ 9:43 AM
In the last few years, many
In the last few years, many of my single female friends in their 20s and 30s have purchased homes. (Many are now underwater.) Whereas I don’t have any single male friends who bought homes.
When you’re a single guy… there are a lot of better ways to spend money. You can get one kick-ass motorcycle for less than a full living room set from Pottery Barn.
I recently got married. The first thing my wife wanted to do was buy a house. Although we can afford something in the $800k – $1MM range, the options in this range in the Santa Monica/Venice area are pretty crappy. I am not going to buy a million dollar home that friends back in the midwest would consider a “shack”.
I explained in great detail to my wife why paying $3,000 a month to rent a house rent is a far better bargain than forking out $200,000 cash at closing and paying mortgage, taxes, insurance and maintainance of $6,500 a month or so. She came around to my point of thinking… but reluctantly at first. None of her female friends think she is making a wise choice. They constantly tell her she is “throwing money away”.
Her sister just sold their townhouse and purchased a larger new home, with an interest-only loan (yeah, i didn’t think these still existed anymore, either). She blew all the profits from the townhome sale, and most of their savings on remodeling. She is now working a second job and wants her husband to do the same.
I think most guys would be pretty happy in a one-bedroom apartment, as long as it had a lot of garage space for our toys and tools.
August 17, 2008 @ 9:48 AM
OMG one-bedroom apartment
OMG one-bedroom apartment with an attached 6-car garage… WANT!!!
August 17, 2008 @ 10:33 AM
I love a nice house with
I love a nice house with friendly neighbors that my kids can grow up with. I love walking my kids to school and riding our bikes around the neighborhood. I love the long term security and stability that comes with owning a home. I love that I will be able to take my very low tax basis with me to my beach retirement pad if I choose to do so. I love that I could keep my house in retirement, travel and generate a large monthly positive from it.
More than anything, I love that when it’s time for me to go into the dirt, I can pass all this on to one of my kids who I hold more dearly than anything in the world and they can enjoy the same with their family.
All of the above is virtually meaningless to my wife. She has very different values and its all about today for her.
August 17, 2008 @ 10:54 AM
Newblet wrote:OMG one-bedroom
[quote=Newblet]OMG one-bedroom apartment with an attached 6-car garage… WANT!!![/quote]
Two bedrooms, one to fill up with TV’s and computers. Also need small place out back for BBQ grill. Small Weber will do. Then add on 6 car garage. Use 2 cars of space for weights and gym equipment.
Heaven on Earth.
John
August 17, 2008 @ 12:02 PM
My husband loves to work on
My husband loves to work on “projects” and fix things, he feels constantly irritated to be in rental without the opportunity to do what he would like to the house. We are in our late 20s and the people we know who bought in the last 5 years are miserably underwater or foreclosed on. He knows it is wise to wait but he is still on redfin everyday trying to convince me that he found a great deal! In Temecula, there actually ARE some good deals but I think the prices are still headed lower.
August 17, 2008 @ 5:06 PM
Sure women want to own
Sure women want to own because they are looking for a “daddy figure”, consciously or subconsciously….And most likely their real daddy owned so they want to own too….They like the “security” and also want to grab half of it when and if the relationship goes south….
August 17, 2008 @ 5:06 PM
Sure women want to own
Sure women want to own because they are looking for a “daddy figure”, consciously or subconsciously….And most likely their real daddy owned so they want to own too….They like the “security” and also want to grab half of it when and if the relationship goes south….
August 17, 2008 @ 10:31 AM
Will Sterling wrote:In the
[quote=Will Sterling]In the last few years, many of my single female friends in their 20s and 30s have purchased homes. (Many are now underwater.) Whereas I don’t have any single male friends who bought homes.
[/quote]
Men tend to think more rationally, and buying in the last few years has not been a rational move.
August 17, 2008 @ 10:35 AM
Will Sterling wrote:
I
[quote=Will Sterling]
I recently got married. The first thing my wife wanted to do was buy a house. Although we can afford something in the $800k – $1MM range, the options in this range in the Santa Monica/Venice area are pretty crappy. I am not going to buy a million dollar home that friends back in the midwest would consider a “shack”.
I explained in great detail to my wife why paying $3,000 a month to rent a house rent is a far better bargain than forking out $200,000 cash at closing and paying mortgage, taxes, insurance and maintainance of $6,500 a month or so. She came around to my point of thinking… but reluctantly at first. None of her female friends think she is making a wise choice. They constantly tell her she is “throwing money away”.
[/quote]
Didn’t you discuss any of this with her before you got married?
August 18, 2008 @ 10:18 AM
In my experience, women tend
In my experience, women tend to have a better defined life plan than men do. I have had a friend for a very long time who knew from before I met her (age 13) that she would be married on 7/7/07. She was, and I can honestly say she loves the guy whole heartedly; as he does. The thing is, I have no parallel to my male friends. Most of them have ranges, i.e. I want to get married about 30, if it is 29 or 31 that is irrelevant.
I think buying a house is apart of the plan for alot of women. Get married at 25, buy a house at 27, kids before 30. These are rather precise numbers, and missing them due to larger economic realities is either disturbing, or unacceptable. To watch their friends, who they are freakishly competive with BTW, move on with their “life plan” when they just have to sit and wait is a very bitter pill to swallow. This isnt to say that men cant get caught up too. They may have a wider range (buy a house in my early 30’s) but if they are forced to wait to 38 due to the same realities, they will get just as upset and prob alot more angry.
There are considerations about kids, or pets, or stability and commitment that may be involved. But often I have found these are more reasons/excuses rather than the underlying personal driving force. Plus women tend to get it alot worse from the family then men do.