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Participant[quote=Rhett]Interestingly enough, Sage Canyon has been opened 3 years, which seems to fit right in with your 2-3 year measure. Every single school that we’ve followed for one reason or other switches principals about every 3 years. Part of the game.[/quote]
Actually, it’s been open a lot longer than that. My daughter went there from K-6. Dr. La Rose was the principal the entire time she was there. I’d hardly call 7 years “musical chairs.”
ParticipantI’d say do whatever you think will make your children happiest in the long run. Nothing else really compares in importance. Especially not money.
Participant[quote=outtamojo]Getting off topic a little but I’m curious how much of this “logic based” profiling that is so acceptable (I’ll assume you are dangerous because almost everyone that looks like you is dangerous)carrries over when it comes to hiring- or does it magically disappear when one reaches the office?[/quote]
I don’t think that’s off-topic at all.
I think it’s logical and reasonable to profile out on the street when you don’t know someone. You base your appraisal on what you see. I see a black and a white with identical clothes, body language, posture, facial expressions, hair style (wait, maybe not hair style), etc on the street. I’ll admit I’m more wary of the black guy. Unless maybe they’re both gangster-looking guys, in which case I’m significantly more wary of the black guy, figuring the white guy is probably more a wannabe whereas the black guy is probably the real deal. If the black guy is wearing a suit and the white guy looks mean, I’ll be more wary of the white guy. I could go on and on, but there are a thousand shades of gray, here. The point is, that I don’t know these guys. I’ve never met them or heard them speak. That’s the reason I’m profiling them. I’ve got my daughter with me, and I’ll make sure nothing happens to her whether it means “demeaning, demoralizing and insulting” someone or not. That just seems like common sense to me.
For a job interview or anytime you meet another person, you can (or should be able to) tell far more about them in the first 15 seconds than their skin color will ever tell you. Skin color should almost immediately disappear completely as an issue. Unless you’re a racist.
Participant[quote=ctr70][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=paramount]Obama enters the discussion, no doubt in part to deflect attention from Benghazi and other issues.[/quote]
Paramount: While I don’t disagree that Obama & Co. are undoubtedly welcoming this as a distraction, I will personally say that I found his remarks very sincere and made in the spirit of unity.
Given the off-the-cuff nature of the remarks, it was even more impressive. I don’t have much love for the man, especially due to his policies, but he was a national leader in that speech.[/quote]
I think a lot of what Obama said in his recent speech was more BS and blame shifting. Saying “that he could have been TM 35 years ago”. And that he’s been racially profiled. Continues to ignore the fact that a jury of 6 believed that TM jumped Zimmerman, pounded his head in the concrete to the point where GZ shot him in self defense. THAT IS WHAT A JURY OF 6 CONCLUDED! End of story. End of speculation. There is ZERO proof of any racial profiling. ZERO. Would have Obama 35 years ago also jumped someone and pounded their head in the concrete? I highly doubt it. Those comments to me continue to follow the black leaderships long history of shifting of blame for their behavior off themselves on to someone else.[/quote]
The arguments you make based on the jury’s decision are not valid.
The jury took into consideration all the evidence and all the laws. They decided (we’ll assume for the sake of argument that they concluded correctly) that GZ was not guilty of the crimes he was charged with. That doesn’t mean that there is ZERO proof of any racial profiling. It doesn’t mean anything except that, under Florida law, he’s not guilty of murder 2 or manslaughter. It doesn’t mean end of story or end of speculation, either. There are a lot of variables that certainly could be discussed regardless of GZ’s technical guilt or innocence under Florida law.
Participant[quote=dumbrenter] But is it racism? Or some kind of primeval or tribal self preservation that makes people do that?[/quote]
There’s another possibility. Maybe it’s a logical reaction to the fact that black people commit crimes at a much higher rate than white or Asian people.
Participant[quote=SK in CV]
Except that’s not the country we live in. Roughly 15% of the population has black skin. The vast majority of them are not criminals.
[/quote]If you lived in the hypothetical would I described, would you “profile” a member of race B?
If you would in that world, but not in ours, then it’s a matter of numbers. How much more likely would a member of race B have to be to commit a crime than a member of race A before you’d “profile” them? And would you expect everybody to draw the line in the same place that you draw it?
Participant[quote=SK in CV] It happens every day in this country, probably thousands of times. Black men are stopped by police and others under the color of authority solely because they are black. Purses get clutched a little tighter, car doors get locked when a black man walks by. It happens in Florida, it happens in NYC, it happens in Carmel Valley. It’s overt racism, and it’s demeaning, demoralizing and insulting.[/quote]
SK, let’s say you live in a country where 99.9% of the people are race A and 0.1% are race B. And 99.9% of the criminals are race B and 0.1% are race A. And you live in a part of town where there are a hundred thousand residents, but there aren’t more than 2 or 3 residents who are of race B. You’re watching your children play in the culdesac where you live from the upstairs window of your house. A man of race B walks into the culdesac. Are you more anxious about that than if a man of race A walks into the culdesac?
If so, according to your post above, then you’re an “overt” racist. Because the only difference between the hypothetical world above and our world is the size of the numbers.
If not, then you are, I would venture to say, lacking common sense.
I agree with CA Renter and Martin Luther King and all the others who say that if black people want to stop being profiled, they should stop committing crimes at the rate they do.
Participant[quote=squat300]the jury speaks to the Onion:
Wow. The best editorial I’ve seen on this case comes from the Onion.
I only read the Onion occasionally, and usually for its humor. I didn’t know they did editorials (of their own variety). Can regular readers tell me if they have this kind of editorial regularly? Not parodies of newspaper editorials, but actual, meaningful opinions on issues, such as this piece was.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]
I think Asians stand out more. But we now live in a globalized world. Plenty of people from Latin America and Europe too — they blend in more. “Glamour” cities will see buyers from all over.
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Entirely possible. Striking, though, how much that echoes a lot of the talk heard during the 2000s bubble.
ParticipantI think a lot of them are from Taiwan and China. They have lots of cash, they don’t like to borrow money (in general), and education is all-important to them. So they’re going to find what they think is the best school district and buy a house there with cash. They communicate with each other, and once an area gets a good reputation, word spreads. It’s happened in the Bay area, L.A., and San Diego (and no doubt other metropolises as well). A particular area gets the reputation. In San Diego, it’s Carmel Valley.
Not sure what percentage of the cash buyers are Chinese, but I know that it’s common for them to pay cash.
June 16, 2013 at 12:50 AM in reply to: Which public schools are better: Carmel Valley or La Jolla #762825Participant[quote=earlyretirement]
There ARE Mello Roos taxes over here but quite honestly even with them we felt it was well worth it. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. At that $1.2 million or so range, I just feel it’s GREAT value for the money compared to many other areas.[/quote]Nazzy,
I can’t speak to much about Santa Luz besides the weather. The weather there is really hard to beat. Less marine layer than the coast and not as hot as Scripps Ranch. Although Scripps Ranch really isn’t that hot.
earlyretirement,
We looked in Santa Luz, and we liked it. But we thought that the HOA fees were out of line with what you got for them. Quite possibly we overlooked something. Can you shed some light on what that $440/mo gets you? Or where it goes? Thanks.
June 10, 2013 at 9:08 PM in reply to: Which public schools are better: Carmel Valley or La Jolla #762606Participant[quote=cvmom]
I second this. So what if she is opinionated? BG keeps this board from being boring.[/quote]
Yeah, just like pain keeps a visit to the dentist from being boring.
This forum has never been boring. In fact, I think it was less boring before a huge boor drove away some interesting posters.
In any case, opinionated is one thing. Deluded, ignorant, narcissistic, and arrogant are different things altogether.
June 9, 2013 at 10:53 PM in reply to: Which public schools are better: Carmel Valley or La Jolla #762543Participant[quote=bearishgurl]
A family of four does not need 3500 feet to live in, IMHO.[/quote]
I always thought the “H” was for “humble.” Guess not.
June 6, 2013 at 11:27 AM in reply to: Which public schools are better: Carmel Valley or La Jolla #762450Participant[quote=westwood] CV has a mostly affluent, homogeneous population. [/quote]
In case this is important to the OP, a little clarification. CV’s population is far from homogenous, unless you’re speaking strictly from an economic standpoint. (Which westwood, I imagine, was). Economically, it’s mostly a mix of upper-middle class and upper class.
Demographically, it’s a mix. White, Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Middle Eastern with a sprinkling of Mexican (mostly upper-middle to upper class immigrants from Mexico) and the occasional Russian or other European or Asian. Rarely, African-American. Wikipedia will tell you it’s 70% white and 18% Asian. I seriously doubt that. Between Chinese, Korean and Indian, there’s way more than 18%. I’d previously read thirty-something percent Asian somewhere, and that sounds more accurate.
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