[urbanrealtor]

1:
I don’t know the legality of it but that is a normal practice.

Recently, I had to secure special permission from the seller (my client) to show their side to the buyer.
I had no problem showing it but the buyer’s agent did not want his client to see his commission.

Weird.

2:
Most escrows these days (though certainly not all of them) are owned by title insurance firms.

That means their fees and practices have to be posted with the insurance commissioner (or so I am told).

As far as the buyer agent commission, that is technically not your right. If your agent wants to show you his commission authorization then he can but the HUD shows a financial arrangement between seller and buyer’s broker. If you pay him, then you get to see it.
That is why a buyer agent needs seller permission to give a buyer rebate through escrow.
Its technically the seller’s money and only he has rights to say what happens with it (and who is privy to that info).

As a practice, I find it best to show the client ANY info they want.

But that is me…

[urbanrealtor]

1:
I don’t know the legality of it but that is a normal practice.

Recently, I had to secure special permission from the seller (my client) to show their side to the buyer.
I had no problem showing it but the buyer’s agent did not want his client to see his commission.

Weird.

2:
Most escrows these days (though certainly not all of them) are owned by title insurance firms.

That means their fees and practices have to be posted with the insurance commissioner (or so I am told).

As far as the buyer agent commission, that is technically not your right. If your agent wants to show you his commission authorization then he can but the HUD shows a financial arrangement between seller and buyer’s broker. If you pay him, then you get to see it.
That is why a buyer agent needs seller permission to give a buyer rebate through escrow.
Its technically the seller’s money and only he has rights to say what happens with it (and who is privy to that info).

As a practice, I find it best to show the client ANY info they want.

But that is me…

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=aldante]
Urban,
I am pretty bad at explaining can I try again?

I think a big part of the tea party movement believes opposite of what you are asserting. [/quote]They aren’t complaining that the government is acting wrongly?
I am pretty sure they are.
[quote=aldante]Since there is not a dogma there are many people in the movement – we all do not protest the same thing. [/quote]In any movement there is diversity of opinion and viewpoint. Solidarity is how movements succeed (Obama) and splintering or bimodalism is how they fail (Gore/Nader). I see your point in that but I think it would be fair to label a few salient aspects of the tea party movement:

1:They feel they are being taxed unfairly (hence the cheesy borrowing from the sons of liberty)

2:They are usually, though not exclusively, critical of current government spending practices

3:They oppose “wealth redistribution” (see 1 and 2).

4:They are disillusioned at the current lineup of of government decision-makers

Is this set of common characteristics inaccurate?
[quote=aldante]People like me did not lose an election – we believe that our country is being lost. [/quote]I get that the government is doing things you don’t like. But how is raising the marginal tax rate to that of the Clinton-era “losing the country”? I mean that just seems like a silly statement.
[quote=aldante] Unfortunately, reading this thread makes me think that is already gone: healthcare a right? the constitution a relic?[/quote] I am not clear how the Constitution is a relic or where that has been stated or implied. I also don’t think there is a strong constituency suggesting that socialized healthcare is a right. Most, like me, just think reform makes better economic sense than using more expensive ER’s as a solution.
[quote=aldante] Then what do we stand for mob rule? Do you realize that after WWII we helped rebuild Europe for $5billion? We gave one company $300 billion and another company $160 billion?
[/quote]
So your point is that banking systems in 2009 cost more than hiring carpenters in 1945? On this we agree. And we stand for majority rule with minority rights.
[quote=aldante]
WE are being robbed by the governing class who are giving fat paydays to their buddies from the Ivy League. Healthcare is the “cake” that the population “gets as a Christmas gift”.
[/quote]
An elected governing body who we have the right to check every 1-4 years (depending on which part).
I recommend voting.
Its more effective than rambling.
[quote=aldante]
Who here gives a christmas gift to someone then tells the reciepient they have to pay for it now and the present comes 4 years later???????
[/quote]
Its a public good and not a gift. I personally don’t think of the congress as Santa but you are entitled to do so.
[quote=aldante]
Declare independence? Why? Its our country. The country is being stolen by a group of oligarchs who view themselves as better then you or I. This is specifically why the Constitution is not only relevant but the document we should look too for hope. That document is worth fighting for.
Revolution? I hope not. Changing the “cake”mentality God I hope so. The state does not have the right to our property. We give our property to the state to justly protect our rights.[/quote]

If you really have the courage of your convictions and if you feel that the president is destroying the country, then for fuck’s sake do something other than rip off a legitimate revolution. Load a truck with explosives or storm the capital or rape Hank Greenberg’s dog or something.

Or you can admit you are just like every other American and vote.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=aldante]
Urban,
I am pretty bad at explaining can I try again?

I think a big part of the tea party movement believes opposite of what you are asserting. [/quote]They aren’t complaining that the government is acting wrongly?
I am pretty sure they are.
[quote=aldante]Since there is not a dogma there are many people in the movement – we all do not protest the same thing. [/quote]In any movement there is diversity of opinion and viewpoint. Solidarity is how movements succeed (Obama) and splintering or bimodalism is how they fail (Gore/Nader). I see your point in that but I think it would be fair to label a few salient aspects of the tea party movement:

1:They feel they are being taxed unfairly (hence the cheesy borrowing from the sons of liberty)

2:They are usually, though not exclusively, critical of current government spending practices

3:They oppose “wealth redistribution” (see 1 and 2).

4:They are disillusioned at the current lineup of of government decision-makers

Is this set of common characteristics inaccurate?
[quote=aldante]People like me did not lose an election – we believe that our country is being lost. [/quote]I get that the government is doing things you don’t like. But how is raising the marginal tax rate to that of the Clinton-era “losing the country”? I mean that just seems like a silly statement.
[quote=aldante] Unfortunately, reading this thread makes me think that is already gone: healthcare a right? the constitution a relic?[/quote] I am not clear how the Constitution is a relic or where that has been stated or implied. I also don’t think there is a strong constituency suggesting that socialized healthcare is a right. Most, like me, just think reform makes better economic sense than using more expensive ER’s as a solution.
[quote=aldante] Then what do we stand for mob rule? Do you realize that after WWII we helped rebuild Europe for $5billion? We gave one company $300 billion and another company $160 billion?
[/quote]
So your point is that banking systems in 2009 cost more than hiring carpenters in 1945? On this we agree. And we stand for majority rule with minority rights.
[quote=aldante]
WE are being robbed by the governing class who are giving fat paydays to their buddies from the Ivy League. Healthcare is the “cake” that the population “gets as a Christmas gift”.
[/quote]
An elected governing body who we have the right to check every 1-4 years (depending on which part).
I recommend voting.
Its more effective than rambling.
[quote=aldante]
Who here gives a christmas gift to someone then tells the reciepient they have to pay for it now and the present comes 4 years later???????
[/quote]
Its a public good and not a gift. I personally don’t think of the congress as Santa but you are entitled to do so.
[quote=aldante]
Declare independence? Why? Its our country. The country is being stolen by a group of oligarchs who view themselves as better then you or I. This is specifically why the Constitution is not only relevant but the document we should look too for hope. That document is worth fighting for.
Revolution? I hope not. Changing the “cake”mentality God I hope so. The state does not have the right to our property. We give our property to the state to justly protect our rights.[/quote]

If you really have the courage of your convictions and if you feel that the president is destroying the country, then for fuck’s sake do something other than rip off a legitimate revolution. Load a truck with explosives or storm the capital or rape Hank Greenberg’s dog or something.

Or you can admit you are just like every other American and vote.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=aldante]
Urban,
I am pretty bad at explaining can I try again?

I think a big part of the tea party movement believes opposite of what you are asserting. [/quote]They aren’t complaining that the government is acting wrongly?
I am pretty sure they are.
[quote=aldante]Since there is not a dogma there are many people in the movement – we all do not protest the same thing. [/quote]In any movement there is diversity of opinion and viewpoint. Solidarity is how movements succeed (Obama) and splintering or bimodalism is how they fail (Gore/Nader). I see your point in that but I think it would be fair to label a few salient aspects of the tea party movement:

1:They feel they are being taxed unfairly (hence the cheesy borrowing from the sons of liberty)

2:They are usually, though not exclusively, critical of current government spending practices

3:They oppose “wealth redistribution” (see 1 and 2).

4:They are disillusioned at the current lineup of of government decision-makers

Is this set of common characteristics inaccurate?
[quote=aldante]People like me did not lose an election – we believe that our country is being lost. [/quote]I get that the government is doing things you don’t like. But how is raising the marginal tax rate to that of the Clinton-era “losing the country”? I mean that just seems like a silly statement.
[quote=aldante] Unfortunately, reading this thread makes me think that is already gone: healthcare a right? the constitution a relic?[/quote] I am not clear how the Constitution is a relic or where that has been stated or implied. I also don’t think there is a strong constituency suggesting that socialized healthcare is a right. Most, like me, just think reform makes better economic sense than using more expensive ER’s as a solution.
[quote=aldante] Then what do we stand for mob rule? Do you realize that after WWII we helped rebuild Europe for $5billion? We gave one company $300 billion and another company $160 billion?
[/quote]
So your point is that banking systems in 2009 cost more than hiring carpenters in 1945? On this we agree. And we stand for majority rule with minority rights.
[quote=aldante]
WE are being robbed by the governing class who are giving fat paydays to their buddies from the Ivy League. Healthcare is the “cake” that the population “gets as a Christmas gift”.
[/quote]
An elected governing body who we have the right to check every 1-4 years (depending on which part).
I recommend voting.
Its more effective than rambling.
[quote=aldante]
Who here gives a christmas gift to someone then tells the reciepient they have to pay for it now and the present comes 4 years later???????
[/quote]
Its a public good and not a gift. I personally don’t think of the congress as Santa but you are entitled to do so.
[quote=aldante]
Declare independence? Why? Its our country. The country is being stolen by a group of oligarchs who view themselves as better then you or I. This is specifically why the Constitution is not only relevant but the document we should look too for hope. That document is worth fighting for.
Revolution? I hope not. Changing the “cake”mentality God I hope so. The state does not have the right to our property. We give our property to the state to justly protect our rights.[/quote]

If you really have the courage of your convictions and if you feel that the president is destroying the country, then for fuck’s sake do something other than rip off a legitimate revolution. Load a truck with explosives or storm the capital or rape Hank Greenberg’s dog or something.

Or you can admit you are just like every other American and vote.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=aldante]
Urban,
I am pretty bad at explaining can I try again?

I think a big part of the tea party movement believes opposite of what you are asserting. [/quote]They aren’t complaining that the government is acting wrongly?
I am pretty sure they are.
[quote=aldante]Since there is not a dogma there are many people in the movement – we all do not protest the same thing. [/quote]In any movement there is diversity of opinion and viewpoint. Solidarity is how movements succeed (Obama) and splintering or bimodalism is how they fail (Gore/Nader). I see your point in that but I think it would be fair to label a few salient aspects of the tea party movement:

1:They feel they are being taxed unfairly (hence the cheesy borrowing from the sons of liberty)

2:They are usually, though not exclusively, critical of current government spending practices

3:They oppose “wealth redistribution” (see 1 and 2).

4:They are disillusioned at the current lineup of of government decision-makers

Is this set of common characteristics inaccurate?
[quote=aldante]People like me did not lose an election – we believe that our country is being lost. [/quote]I get that the government is doing things you don’t like. But how is raising the marginal tax rate to that of the Clinton-era “losing the country”? I mean that just seems like a silly statement.
[quote=aldante] Unfortunately, reading this thread makes me think that is already gone: healthcare a right? the constitution a relic?[/quote] I am not clear how the Constitution is a relic or where that has been stated or implied. I also don’t think there is a strong constituency suggesting that socialized healthcare is a right. Most, like me, just think reform makes better economic sense than using more expensive ER’s as a solution.
[quote=aldante] Then what do we stand for mob rule? Do you realize that after WWII we helped rebuild Europe for $5billion? We gave one company $300 billion and another company $160 billion?
[/quote]
So your point is that banking systems in 2009 cost more than hiring carpenters in 1945? On this we agree. And we stand for majority rule with minority rights.
[quote=aldante]
WE are being robbed by the governing class who are giving fat paydays to their buddies from the Ivy League. Healthcare is the “cake” that the population “gets as a Christmas gift”.
[/quote]
An elected governing body who we have the right to check every 1-4 years (depending on which part).
I recommend voting.
Its more effective than rambling.
[quote=aldante]
Who here gives a christmas gift to someone then tells the reciepient they have to pay for it now and the present comes 4 years later???????
[/quote]
Its a public good and not a gift. I personally don’t think of the congress as Santa but you are entitled to do so.
[quote=aldante]
Declare independence? Why? Its our country. The country is being stolen by a group of oligarchs who view themselves as better then you or I. This is specifically why the Constitution is not only relevant but the document we should look too for hope. That document is worth fighting for.
Revolution? I hope not. Changing the “cake”mentality God I hope so. The state does not have the right to our property. We give our property to the state to justly protect our rights.[/quote]

If you really have the courage of your convictions and if you feel that the president is destroying the country, then for fuck’s sake do something other than rip off a legitimate revolution. Load a truck with explosives or storm the capital or rape Hank Greenberg’s dog or something.

Or you can admit you are just like every other American and vote.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=aldante]
Urban,
I am pretty bad at explaining can I try again?

I think a big part of the tea party movement believes opposite of what you are asserting. [/quote]They aren’t complaining that the government is acting wrongly?
I am pretty sure they are.
[quote=aldante]Since there is not a dogma there are many people in the movement – we all do not protest the same thing. [/quote]In any movement there is diversity of opinion and viewpoint. Solidarity is how movements succeed (Obama) and splintering or bimodalism is how they fail (Gore/Nader). I see your point in that but I think it would be fair to label a few salient aspects of the tea party movement:

1:They feel they are being taxed unfairly (hence the cheesy borrowing from the sons of liberty)

2:They are usually, though not exclusively, critical of current government spending practices

3:They oppose “wealth redistribution” (see 1 and 2).

4:They are disillusioned at the current lineup of of government decision-makers

Is this set of common characteristics inaccurate?
[quote=aldante]People like me did not lose an election – we believe that our country is being lost. [/quote]I get that the government is doing things you don’t like. But how is raising the marginal tax rate to that of the Clinton-era “losing the country”? I mean that just seems like a silly statement.
[quote=aldante] Unfortunately, reading this thread makes me think that is already gone: healthcare a right? the constitution a relic?[/quote] I am not clear how the Constitution is a relic or where that has been stated or implied. I also don’t think there is a strong constituency suggesting that socialized healthcare is a right. Most, like me, just think reform makes better economic sense than using more expensive ER’s as a solution.
[quote=aldante] Then what do we stand for mob rule? Do you realize that after WWII we helped rebuild Europe for $5billion? We gave one company $300 billion and another company $160 billion?
[/quote]
So your point is that banking systems in 2009 cost more than hiring carpenters in 1945? On this we agree. And we stand for majority rule with minority rights.
[quote=aldante]
WE are being robbed by the governing class who are giving fat paydays to their buddies from the Ivy League. Healthcare is the “cake” that the population “gets as a Christmas gift”.
[/quote]
An elected governing body who we have the right to check every 1-4 years (depending on which part).
I recommend voting.
Its more effective than rambling.
[quote=aldante]
Who here gives a christmas gift to someone then tells the reciepient they have to pay for it now and the present comes 4 years later???????
[/quote]
Its a public good and not a gift. I personally don’t think of the congress as Santa but you are entitled to do so.
[quote=aldante]
Declare independence? Why? Its our country. The country is being stolen by a group of oligarchs who view themselves as better then you or I. This is specifically why the Constitution is not only relevant but the document we should look too for hope. That document is worth fighting for.
Revolution? I hope not. Changing the “cake”mentality God I hope so. The state does not have the right to our property. We give our property to the state to justly protect our rights.[/quote]

If you really have the courage of your convictions and if you feel that the president is destroying the country, then for fuck’s sake do something other than rip off a legitimate revolution. Load a truck with explosives or storm the capital or rape Hank Greenberg’s dog or something.

Or you can admit you are just like every other American and vote.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: You do realize that Dan’s poison of choice is Rebel Yell bourbon, don’t you? Something to think about.[/quote]

Yikes, thanks for the warning. I am running a little low on aftershave, so at least it will still come in handy.[/quote]

Lies.
All lies.

I drink Powers at the Alibi and Old Grandad at home.
(used to go to Lancers but then they fired my favorite bartenders and my wife got preggo–still don’t know who is responsible for that).

Occasionally, a client will buy me some single-malt scotch or some bushy.

In college I was super broke and often a Friday night was a couple of friends coming over and like five of us walking from 3rd and Penn to 3rd and Washington buying a bottle of old grandad, a couple of carne asada burritos from La Posta, and renting a copy of Highlander or the Dark Crystal or Time Rider or something.

Ahh memory lane.

Hillcrest, cheap whiskey, and girls with tattoos (and unfinished papers on Latin American democracy and citizenship).

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: You do realize that Dan’s poison of choice is Rebel Yell bourbon, don’t you? Something to think about.[/quote]

Yikes, thanks for the warning. I am running a little low on aftershave, so at least it will still come in handy.[/quote]

Lies.
All lies.

I drink Powers at the Alibi and Old Grandad at home.
(used to go to Lancers but then they fired my favorite bartenders and my wife got preggo–still don’t know who is responsible for that).

Occasionally, a client will buy me some single-malt scotch or some bushy.

In college I was super broke and often a Friday night was a couple of friends coming over and like five of us walking from 3rd and Penn to 3rd and Washington buying a bottle of old grandad, a couple of carne asada burritos from La Posta, and renting a copy of Highlander or the Dark Crystal or Time Rider or something.

Ahh memory lane.

Hillcrest, cheap whiskey, and girls with tattoos (and unfinished papers on Latin American democracy and citizenship).

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: You do realize that Dan’s poison of choice is Rebel Yell bourbon, don’t you? Something to think about.[/quote]

Yikes, thanks for the warning. I am running a little low on aftershave, so at least it will still come in handy.[/quote]

Lies.
All lies.

I drink Powers at the Alibi and Old Grandad at home.
(used to go to Lancers but then they fired my favorite bartenders and my wife got preggo–still don’t know who is responsible for that).

Occasionally, a client will buy me some single-malt scotch or some bushy.

In college I was super broke and often a Friday night was a couple of friends coming over and like five of us walking from 3rd and Penn to 3rd and Washington buying a bottle of old grandad, a couple of carne asada burritos from La Posta, and renting a copy of Highlander or the Dark Crystal or Time Rider or something.

Ahh memory lane.

Hillcrest, cheap whiskey, and girls with tattoos (and unfinished papers on Latin American democracy and citizenship).

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: You do realize that Dan’s poison of choice is Rebel Yell bourbon, don’t you? Something to think about.[/quote]

Yikes, thanks for the warning. I am running a little low on aftershave, so at least it will still come in handy.[/quote]

Lies.
All lies.

I drink Powers at the Alibi and Old Grandad at home.
(used to go to Lancers but then they fired my favorite bartenders and my wife got preggo–still don’t know who is responsible for that).

Occasionally, a client will buy me some single-malt scotch or some bushy.

In college I was super broke and often a Friday night was a couple of friends coming over and like five of us walking from 3rd and Penn to 3rd and Washington buying a bottle of old grandad, a couple of carne asada burritos from La Posta, and renting a copy of Highlander or the Dark Crystal or Time Rider or something.

Ahh memory lane.

Hillcrest, cheap whiskey, and girls with tattoos (and unfinished papers on Latin American democracy and citizenship).

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: You do realize that Dan’s poison of choice is Rebel Yell bourbon, don’t you? Something to think about.[/quote]

Yikes, thanks for the warning. I am running a little low on aftershave, so at least it will still come in handy.[/quote]

Lies.
All lies.

I drink Powers at the Alibi and Old Grandad at home.
(used to go to Lancers but then they fired my favorite bartenders and my wife got preggo–still don’t know who is responsible for that).

Occasionally, a client will buy me some single-malt scotch or some bushy.

In college I was super broke and often a Friday night was a couple of friends coming over and like five of us walking from 3rd and Penn to 3rd and Washington buying a bottle of old grandad, a couple of carne asada burritos from La Posta, and renting a copy of Highlander or the Dark Crystal or Time Rider or something.

Ahh memory lane.

Hillcrest, cheap whiskey, and girls with tattoos (and unfinished papers on Latin American democracy and citizenship).

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=8bitnintendo]

I love diving (will be in Belize diving this Xmas)[/quote]

I spent three years in Central America during the 1980s when I was in the Army. It was a fairly crappy gig, but I did have some great diving opportunities, including Belize.

If you have a chance, hit Turneffe Atoll, Lighthouse Atoll and Ambergris Caye (home of the Great Blue Hole). I dove there with another Ranger and a pair of Navy SEALs back in the day, and it was a friggin’ blast.

The profusion of marine life is incredible, especially the rays, eels and sharks.

I hear you about the expense of sky diving. If they ever offer private HALO jumps, I’d go in a heartbeat. I did a half dozen of those while in the Army, and the experience was incredible.[/quote]

I once saw a movie set in latin america called great blue hole.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=8bitnintendo]

I love diving (will be in Belize diving this Xmas)[/quote]

I spent three years in Central America during the 1980s when I was in the Army. It was a fairly crappy gig, but I did have some great diving opportunities, including Belize.

If you have a chance, hit Turneffe Atoll, Lighthouse Atoll and Ambergris Caye (home of the Great Blue Hole). I dove there with another Ranger and a pair of Navy SEALs back in the day, and it was a friggin’ blast.

The profusion of marine life is incredible, especially the rays, eels and sharks.

I hear you about the expense of sky diving. If they ever offer private HALO jumps, I’d go in a heartbeat. I did a half dozen of those while in the Army, and the experience was incredible.[/quote]

I once saw a movie set in latin america called great blue hole.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=8bitnintendo]

I love diving (will be in Belize diving this Xmas)[/quote]

I spent three years in Central America during the 1980s when I was in the Army. It was a fairly crappy gig, but I did have some great diving opportunities, including Belize.

If you have a chance, hit Turneffe Atoll, Lighthouse Atoll and Ambergris Caye (home of the Great Blue Hole). I dove there with another Ranger and a pair of Navy SEALs back in the day, and it was a friggin’ blast.

The profusion of marine life is incredible, especially the rays, eels and sharks.

I hear you about the expense of sky diving. If they ever offer private HALO jumps, I’d go in a heartbeat. I did a half dozen of those while in the Army, and the experience was incredible.[/quote]

I once saw a movie set in latin america called great blue hole.

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