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ParticipantI think there are some legitimate points raised in the article and here…
But, if you plan to stay in your house, long-term, then “free rent” once the mortgage is paid off is a factor. We are looking forward to our mortgage freedom.
ParticipantI think there are some legitimate points raised in the article and here…
But, if you plan to stay in your house, long-term, then “free rent” once the mortgage is paid off is a factor. We are looking forward to our mortgage freedom.
March 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #363433ParticipantOk – I just re-read the article… In the side bar it mentions that the projects chosen for case study (which Dreyfuss’s was) can get up to $10,000.
So that is money that you or I would have a harder time getting.
Trust me – we looked for every possible rebate/grant/program when we were building our companion unit/granny flat. And it sounds like it would qualify since we far exceeded the title 24 energy calcs. (super insulated, better windows, everything energy star/super efficent in the appliances/hvac.). It looks like this program came along recently.March 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #363723ParticipantOk – I just re-read the article… In the side bar it mentions that the projects chosen for case study (which Dreyfuss’s was) can get up to $10,000.
So that is money that you or I would have a harder time getting.
Trust me – we looked for every possible rebate/grant/program when we were building our companion unit/granny flat. And it sounds like it would qualify since we far exceeded the title 24 energy calcs. (super insulated, better windows, everything energy star/super efficent in the appliances/hvac.). It looks like this program came along recently.March 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #363879ParticipantOk – I just re-read the article… In the side bar it mentions that the projects chosen for case study (which Dreyfuss’s was) can get up to $10,000.
So that is money that you or I would have a harder time getting.
Trust me – we looked for every possible rebate/grant/program when we were building our companion unit/granny flat. And it sounds like it would qualify since we far exceeded the title 24 energy calcs. (super insulated, better windows, everything energy star/super efficent in the appliances/hvac.). It looks like this program came along recently.March 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #363915ParticipantOk – I just re-read the article… In the side bar it mentions that the projects chosen for case study (which Dreyfuss’s was) can get up to $10,000.
So that is money that you or I would have a harder time getting.
Trust me – we looked for every possible rebate/grant/program when we were building our companion unit/granny flat. And it sounds like it would qualify since we far exceeded the title 24 energy calcs. (super insulated, better windows, everything energy star/super efficent in the appliances/hvac.). It looks like this program came along recently.March 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #364027ParticipantOk – I just re-read the article… In the side bar it mentions that the projects chosen for case study (which Dreyfuss’s was) can get up to $10,000.
So that is money that you or I would have a harder time getting.
Trust me – we looked for every possible rebate/grant/program when we were building our companion unit/granny flat. And it sounds like it would qualify since we far exceeded the title 24 energy calcs. (super insulated, better windows, everything energy star/super efficent in the appliances/hvac.). It looks like this program came along recently.March 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #363389ParticipantOn an slightly related note…
Did anyone read the cover article from the reader 3-4 weeks ago, about door to door pesticide service sales… Dreyfuss was mentioned in the article. His wife gave the sales-gal a home grown tomato from their garden.March 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #363678ParticipantOn an slightly related note…
Did anyone read the cover article from the reader 3-4 weeks ago, about door to door pesticide service sales… Dreyfuss was mentioned in the article. His wife gave the sales-gal a home grown tomato from their garden.March 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #363834ParticipantOn an slightly related note…
Did anyone read the cover article from the reader 3-4 weeks ago, about door to door pesticide service sales… Dreyfuss was mentioned in the article. His wife gave the sales-gal a home grown tomato from their garden.March 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #363870ParticipantOn an slightly related note…
Did anyone read the cover article from the reader 3-4 weeks ago, about door to door pesticide service sales… Dreyfuss was mentioned in the article. His wife gave the sales-gal a home grown tomato from their garden.March 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #363982ParticipantOn an slightly related note…
Did anyone read the cover article from the reader 3-4 weeks ago, about door to door pesticide service sales… Dreyfuss was mentioned in the article. His wife gave the sales-gal a home grown tomato from their garden.March 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #363378Participant[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]I think Butleroftwo’s point is that he’s rich enough he shouldn’t need no steenkin subsidies to green up his house. You and me, on the other hand, can use all the help we can get. (A solar roof system can cost %15,000, for example.)[/quote]
It can cost quite a bit more than $15k… but with rebates/credits it can come down to $10-15k out of pocket.
(We’ve been doing the math, getting the quotes, trying to decide if we’ll pull the trigger. Right now we’re leaning against it untill we buy a plug in EV car… so we don’t have to pay to charge the car.)[quote=Russell]The energy,materials and labor expended and impacts on the planet over time, on a house this size, dwarf any benefits from the effects of going “green” as compared to a reasonably sized reasonably efficient house for two people.I don’t care to judge the standards but the oxymoron is there. The funny thing is these people derive pride from having been certified green.Two people living in Tijuana in a hut made of garage doors are green.
[/quote]I completely agree with this. This house is way too big to be considered efficient for 2 people. It was 4800 sf at the beginning and they’re going up to 6k sf. (Per the article.)
LEED gives points for reusing materials (e.g. the TJ garage doors as a building material)… You can get more LEED points for KEEPING non-green materials than for tearing the non-green stuff and putting in “green” materials.
March 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM in reply to: Elite Actor Spends Public Money on his Bloated Mansion #363668Participant[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]I think Butleroftwo’s point is that he’s rich enough he shouldn’t need no steenkin subsidies to green up his house. You and me, on the other hand, can use all the help we can get. (A solar roof system can cost %15,000, for example.)[/quote]
It can cost quite a bit more than $15k… but with rebates/credits it can come down to $10-15k out of pocket.
(We’ve been doing the math, getting the quotes, trying to decide if we’ll pull the trigger. Right now we’re leaning against it untill we buy a plug in EV car… so we don’t have to pay to charge the car.)[quote=Russell]The energy,materials and labor expended and impacts on the planet over time, on a house this size, dwarf any benefits from the effects of going “green” as compared to a reasonably sized reasonably efficient house for two people.I don’t care to judge the standards but the oxymoron is there. The funny thing is these people derive pride from having been certified green.Two people living in Tijuana in a hut made of garage doors are green.
[/quote]I completely agree with this. This house is way too big to be considered efficient for 2 people. It was 4800 sf at the beginning and they’re going up to 6k sf. (Per the article.)
LEED gives points for reusing materials (e.g. the TJ garage doors as a building material)… You can get more LEED points for KEEPING non-green materials than for tearing the non-green stuff and putting in “green” materials.
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