[UCGal]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=UCGal]And you guys (Zeit et al) realize that her Ricci decision actually overturned the promotion of a hispanic candidate.

So… if she’s such a scary person who would promote hispanic issues above those of white males – regardless of the law… why did she rule against the one hispanic fireman who’d passed the test? Kind of reverse ethnic pride, don’t you think?[/quote]

UCGal: You’re parsing words and facts here. This had nothing to do with the one Hispanic fireman, rather it had to with the fact that none of the black applicants made the cut (testing results) and so the test was thrown out.

If you were to reverse the colors/ethnicity, you’d have a good case for ‘ol Jim Crow there.[/quote]

I’ve heard so many people talk about how she’s a racist and La Raza is the equivalent of the KKK. Extending that idea that she’d favor hispanics over others in her rulings, you’d think she would have ruled to favor the hispanic job candidate. Instead she favored blacks (not her racial group). That was my point.

Oh wait… Perhaps all non-whites are lumped together.

[UCGal]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=UCGal]And you guys (Zeit et al) realize that her Ricci decision actually overturned the promotion of a hispanic candidate.

So… if she’s such a scary person who would promote hispanic issues above those of white males – regardless of the law… why did she rule against the one hispanic fireman who’d passed the test? Kind of reverse ethnic pride, don’t you think?[/quote]

UCGal: You’re parsing words and facts here. This had nothing to do with the one Hispanic fireman, rather it had to with the fact that none of the black applicants made the cut (testing results) and so the test was thrown out.

If you were to reverse the colors/ethnicity, you’d have a good case for ‘ol Jim Crow there.[/quote]

I’ve heard so many people talk about how she’s a racist and La Raza is the equivalent of the KKK. Extending that idea that she’d favor hispanics over others in her rulings, you’d think she would have ruled to favor the hispanic job candidate. Instead she favored blacks (not her racial group). That was my point.

Oh wait… Perhaps all non-whites are lumped together.

[UCGal]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=UCGal]And you guys (Zeit et al) realize that her Ricci decision actually overturned the promotion of a hispanic candidate.

So… if she’s such a scary person who would promote hispanic issues above those of white males – regardless of the law… why did she rule against the one hispanic fireman who’d passed the test? Kind of reverse ethnic pride, don’t you think?[/quote]

UCGal: You’re parsing words and facts here. This had nothing to do with the one Hispanic fireman, rather it had to with the fact that none of the black applicants made the cut (testing results) and so the test was thrown out.

If you were to reverse the colors/ethnicity, you’d have a good case for ‘ol Jim Crow there.[/quote]

I’ve heard so many people talk about how she’s a racist and La Raza is the equivalent of the KKK. Extending that idea that she’d favor hispanics over others in her rulings, you’d think she would have ruled to favor the hispanic job candidate. Instead she favored blacks (not her racial group). That was my point.

Oh wait… Perhaps all non-whites are lumped together.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1][quote=SK in CV]
And on Ricci, Sotomayor DID follow precedent. Had her court found other than the way it did, she would have been disregarding precedent. It was the SCOTUS, in overturning her court’s decision that created new precedent.
[/quote]

I agree with this.[/quote]

I also agree with this.

And you guys (Zeit et al) realize that her Ricci decision actually overturned the promotion of a hispanic candidate.

So… if she’s such a scary person who would promote hispanic issues above those of white males – regardless of the law… why did she rule against the one hispanic fireman who’d passed the test? Kind of reverse ethnic pride, don’t you think?

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1][quote=SK in CV]
And on Ricci, Sotomayor DID follow precedent. Had her court found other than the way it did, she would have been disregarding precedent. It was the SCOTUS, in overturning her court’s decision that created new precedent.
[/quote]

I agree with this.[/quote]

I also agree with this.

And you guys (Zeit et al) realize that her Ricci decision actually overturned the promotion of a hispanic candidate.

So… if she’s such a scary person who would promote hispanic issues above those of white males – regardless of the law… why did she rule against the one hispanic fireman who’d passed the test? Kind of reverse ethnic pride, don’t you think?

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1][quote=SK in CV]
And on Ricci, Sotomayor DID follow precedent. Had her court found other than the way it did, she would have been disregarding precedent. It was the SCOTUS, in overturning her court’s decision that created new precedent.
[/quote]

I agree with this.[/quote]

I also agree with this.

And you guys (Zeit et al) realize that her Ricci decision actually overturned the promotion of a hispanic candidate.

So… if she’s such a scary person who would promote hispanic issues above those of white males – regardless of the law… why did she rule against the one hispanic fireman who’d passed the test? Kind of reverse ethnic pride, don’t you think?

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1][quote=SK in CV]
And on Ricci, Sotomayor DID follow precedent. Had her court found other than the way it did, she would have been disregarding precedent. It was the SCOTUS, in overturning her court’s decision that created new precedent.
[/quote]

I agree with this.[/quote]

I also agree with this.

And you guys (Zeit et al) realize that her Ricci decision actually overturned the promotion of a hispanic candidate.

So… if she’s such a scary person who would promote hispanic issues above those of white males – regardless of the law… why did she rule against the one hispanic fireman who’d passed the test? Kind of reverse ethnic pride, don’t you think?

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1][quote=SK in CV]
And on Ricci, Sotomayor DID follow precedent. Had her court found other than the way it did, she would have been disregarding precedent. It was the SCOTUS, in overturning her court’s decision that created new precedent.
[/quote]

I agree with this.[/quote]

I also agree with this.

And you guys (Zeit et al) realize that her Ricci decision actually overturned the promotion of a hispanic candidate.

So… if she’s such a scary person who would promote hispanic issues above those of white males – regardless of the law… why did she rule against the one hispanic fireman who’d passed the test? Kind of reverse ethnic pride, don’t you think?

[UCGal]

[quote=Russell]He should write the offer you want. 7.5% isn’t that much.You might not get it but that isn’t a high reduction. If there is a really valid reason he should be able to offer an explanation that doesn’t feel like arm twisting to you. That would be something like, “It already has 4 offers and I know that yours won’t get it, would you like I try to discuss a back-up offer with the listing agent”?

One problem now, with getting another agent to write you an offer on that particular place is that this person showed it to you and can claim to be procuring cause. You would want to put in writing that you are going with another agent because he or she is giving you too much hardship about writing the offer you like. They could still try to sue but it probably would not come to that. You could just tell them to write the offer or quit. Dump them if they don’t come around.

The principal gives the orders and if he doesn’t like the way you do things he should quit on his own behalf and not try to bend you to his will.

If you get another agent ask them upfront if they will write low offers or even “what the hell you never know” offer, in case you might want to try that.[/quote]

ITA with Russell. Properly terminate whatever buyers contract you have to CYA, then interview realtors willing to work for you on your terms.

[UCGal]

[quote=Russell]He should write the offer you want. 7.5% isn’t that much.You might not get it but that isn’t a high reduction. If there is a really valid reason he should be able to offer an explanation that doesn’t feel like arm twisting to you. That would be something like, “It already has 4 offers and I know that yours won’t get it, would you like I try to discuss a back-up offer with the listing agent”?

One problem now, with getting another agent to write you an offer on that particular place is that this person showed it to you and can claim to be procuring cause. You would want to put in writing that you are going with another agent because he or she is giving you too much hardship about writing the offer you like. They could still try to sue but it probably would not come to that. You could just tell them to write the offer or quit. Dump them if they don’t come around.

The principal gives the orders and if he doesn’t like the way you do things he should quit on his own behalf and not try to bend you to his will.

If you get another agent ask them upfront if they will write low offers or even “what the hell you never know” offer, in case you might want to try that.[/quote]

ITA with Russell. Properly terminate whatever buyers contract you have to CYA, then interview realtors willing to work for you on your terms.

[UCGal]

[quote=Russell]He should write the offer you want. 7.5% isn’t that much.You might not get it but that isn’t a high reduction. If there is a really valid reason he should be able to offer an explanation that doesn’t feel like arm twisting to you. That would be something like, “It already has 4 offers and I know that yours won’t get it, would you like I try to discuss a back-up offer with the listing agent”?

One problem now, with getting another agent to write you an offer on that particular place is that this person showed it to you and can claim to be procuring cause. You would want to put in writing that you are going with another agent because he or she is giving you too much hardship about writing the offer you like. They could still try to sue but it probably would not come to that. You could just tell them to write the offer or quit. Dump them if they don’t come around.

The principal gives the orders and if he doesn’t like the way you do things he should quit on his own behalf and not try to bend you to his will.

If you get another agent ask them upfront if they will write low offers or even “what the hell you never know” offer, in case you might want to try that.[/quote]

ITA with Russell. Properly terminate whatever buyers contract you have to CYA, then interview realtors willing to work for you on your terms.

[UCGal]

[quote=Russell]He should write the offer you want. 7.5% isn’t that much.You might not get it but that isn’t a high reduction. If there is a really valid reason he should be able to offer an explanation that doesn’t feel like arm twisting to you. That would be something like, “It already has 4 offers and I know that yours won’t get it, would you like I try to discuss a back-up offer with the listing agent”?

One problem now, with getting another agent to write you an offer on that particular place is that this person showed it to you and can claim to be procuring cause. You would want to put in writing that you are going with another agent because he or she is giving you too much hardship about writing the offer you like. They could still try to sue but it probably would not come to that. You could just tell them to write the offer or quit. Dump them if they don’t come around.

The principal gives the orders and if he doesn’t like the way you do things he should quit on his own behalf and not try to bend you to his will.

If you get another agent ask them upfront if they will write low offers or even “what the hell you never know” offer, in case you might want to try that.[/quote]

ITA with Russell. Properly terminate whatever buyers contract you have to CYA, then interview realtors willing to work for you on your terms.

[UCGal]

[quote=Russell]He should write the offer you want. 7.5% isn’t that much.You might not get it but that isn’t a high reduction. If there is a really valid reason he should be able to offer an explanation that doesn’t feel like arm twisting to you. That would be something like, “It already has 4 offers and I know that yours won’t get it, would you like I try to discuss a back-up offer with the listing agent”?

One problem now, with getting another agent to write you an offer on that particular place is that this person showed it to you and can claim to be procuring cause. You would want to put in writing that you are going with another agent because he or she is giving you too much hardship about writing the offer you like. They could still try to sue but it probably would not come to that. You could just tell them to write the offer or quit. Dump them if they don’t come around.

The principal gives the orders and if he doesn’t like the way you do things he should quit on his own behalf and not try to bend you to his will.

If you get another agent ask them upfront if they will write low offers or even “what the hell you never know” offer, in case you might want to try that.[/quote]

ITA with Russell. Properly terminate whatever buyers contract you have to CYA, then interview realtors willing to work for you on your terms.

[UCGal]

[quote=5yearwaiter][quote=Zeitgeist]Yes, I have noticed some enticing lower offerings and when I called there were 30 offers on the property. This has been happening for about the past month.[/quote]

Well if they have plenty of offers I don’t understand the logic in lowering the listed price. Does it looks like confusing? What I am suspecious is the next news would be worst with unemployment spread and eventually FED would give up slowly to care more on housing as they need to gear up on how to provide or increase more employment ONLY[/quote]

The logic is that people will go look at a house if the price is within the range… and then they fall in love with it and bid it up. The sellers are gambling that a bidding war will drive the price higher than the listing price.

[UCGal]

[quote=5yearwaiter][quote=Zeitgeist]Yes, I have noticed some enticing lower offerings and when I called there were 30 offers on the property. This has been happening for about the past month.[/quote]

Well if they have plenty of offers I don’t understand the logic in lowering the listed price. Does it looks like confusing? What I am suspecious is the next news would be worst with unemployment spread and eventually FED would give up slowly to care more on housing as they need to gear up on how to provide or increase more employment ONLY[/quote]

The logic is that people will go look at a house if the price is within the range… and then they fall in love with it and bid it up. The sellers are gambling that a bidding war will drive the price higher than the listing price.

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