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[quote=AK]Have we really given up on building things to last? Or are we so addicted to redecorating and remodeling that there’s no point to it?[/quote]

Yes. I watch the shows on HGTV and see people reject, outright, homes that are good, structurally sound, etc because they don’t have granite counter tops or stainless appliances… Not stopping to think that if that were really a priority they could get those feature in a better, non-updated, house for much less $ after the sale.

I live in the house I grew up in… bought it from my dad when he was looking to downsize. We’re updating things slowly – but will NOT be replacing the kitchen cabinets since they were made with dimensioned lumber and are of much higher quality than the particle board crap they push now. We’ll be sanding and painting the old ones. The solid ones.

That said – our older house did not (past tense) meet current seismic code… so my husband spent some time, room by room, opening up walls, adding diagonal bracing and foundation bolts, replacing sheetrock with plywood to get better sheer walls. And our older house has needed a LOT of work to bring electrical up to current standards of readily available 3 prong outlets every 6-8 feet.

But overall – I agree that houses were built a little sturdier in the past. But most buyers want the new shiny version and don’t care.

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[quote=AK]Have we really given up on building things to last? Or are we so addicted to redecorating and remodeling that there’s no point to it?[/quote]

Yes. I watch the shows on HGTV and see people reject, outright, homes that are good, structurally sound, etc because they don’t have granite counter tops or stainless appliances… Not stopping to think that if that were really a priority they could get those feature in a better, non-updated, house for much less $ after the sale.

I live in the house I grew up in… bought it from my dad when he was looking to downsize. We’re updating things slowly – but will NOT be replacing the kitchen cabinets since they were made with dimensioned lumber and are of much higher quality than the particle board crap they push now. We’ll be sanding and painting the old ones. The solid ones.

That said – our older house did not (past tense) meet current seismic code… so my husband spent some time, room by room, opening up walls, adding diagonal bracing and foundation bolts, replacing sheetrock with plywood to get better sheer walls. And our older house has needed a LOT of work to bring electrical up to current standards of readily available 3 prong outlets every 6-8 feet.

But overall – I agree that houses were built a little sturdier in the past. But most buyers want the new shiny version and don’t care.

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[quote=AK]Have we really given up on building things to last? Or are we so addicted to redecorating and remodeling that there’s no point to it?[/quote]

Yes. I watch the shows on HGTV and see people reject, outright, homes that are good, structurally sound, etc because they don’t have granite counter tops or stainless appliances… Not stopping to think that if that were really a priority they could get those feature in a better, non-updated, house for much less $ after the sale.

I live in the house I grew up in… bought it from my dad when he was looking to downsize. We’re updating things slowly – but will NOT be replacing the kitchen cabinets since they were made with dimensioned lumber and are of much higher quality than the particle board crap they push now. We’ll be sanding and painting the old ones. The solid ones.

That said – our older house did not (past tense) meet current seismic code… so my husband spent some time, room by room, opening up walls, adding diagonal bracing and foundation bolts, replacing sheetrock with plywood to get better sheer walls. And our older house has needed a LOT of work to bring electrical up to current standards of readily available 3 prong outlets every 6-8 feet.

But overall – I agree that houses were built a little sturdier in the past. But most buyers want the new shiny version and don’t care.

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I do that and more…

I look up property tax records… You can usually find out the owners name. (Unless it’s held in a trust or corp.)

I look up the owner on the grant deed search – can see if the owner has a lot of judgements/ NODS or even owns a lot of properties…

In your case – it might be that they cleaned up the place after the tenant trashed it – and decided to sell rather than rent it out again…

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I do that and more…

I look up property tax records… You can usually find out the owners name. (Unless it’s held in a trust or corp.)

I look up the owner on the grant deed search – can see if the owner has a lot of judgements/ NODS or even owns a lot of properties…

In your case – it might be that they cleaned up the place after the tenant trashed it – and decided to sell rather than rent it out again…

[UCGal]

I do that and more…

I look up property tax records… You can usually find out the owners name. (Unless it’s held in a trust or corp.)

I look up the owner on the grant deed search – can see if the owner has a lot of judgements/ NODS or even owns a lot of properties…

In your case – it might be that they cleaned up the place after the tenant trashed it – and decided to sell rather than rent it out again…

[UCGal]

I do that and more…

I look up property tax records… You can usually find out the owners name. (Unless it’s held in a trust or corp.)

I look up the owner on the grant deed search – can see if the owner has a lot of judgements/ NODS or even owns a lot of properties…

In your case – it might be that they cleaned up the place after the tenant trashed it – and decided to sell rather than rent it out again…

[UCGal]

I do that and more…

I look up property tax records… You can usually find out the owners name. (Unless it’s held in a trust or corp.)

I look up the owner on the grant deed search – can see if the owner has a lot of judgements/ NODS or even owns a lot of properties…

In your case – it might be that they cleaned up the place after the tenant trashed it – and decided to sell rather than rent it out again…

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[quote=urbanrealtor]And the other problem is that those remarks are in the public section.
Generally they are in the confidential section with the lockbox combo and the fact that the dog has no teeth.

WOW.
Somebody needs to improve their MLS entry skills.[/quote]

Not just that – because of the way they entered the address – it can’t be mapped… Typically I see the address of a muli-unit looking like 3776-80 Centre They did it as 3780/76 Centre… The slash, the listing of the high address first… Sites like Redfin get confused. (It’s why I listed both links in the OP.)

The person who entered this made some mistakes, no question about that.

I’d be curious to know why the seller thinks it’s gone up $240k… New electrical is nice, but it’s still listed as needing TLC.

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[quote=urbanrealtor]And the other problem is that those remarks are in the public section.
Generally they are in the confidential section with the lockbox combo and the fact that the dog has no teeth.

WOW.
Somebody needs to improve their MLS entry skills.[/quote]

Not just that – because of the way they entered the address – it can’t be mapped… Typically I see the address of a muli-unit looking like 3776-80 Centre They did it as 3780/76 Centre… The slash, the listing of the high address first… Sites like Redfin get confused. (It’s why I listed both links in the OP.)

The person who entered this made some mistakes, no question about that.

I’d be curious to know why the seller thinks it’s gone up $240k… New electrical is nice, but it’s still listed as needing TLC.

[UCGal]

[quote=urbanrealtor]And the other problem is that those remarks are in the public section.
Generally they are in the confidential section with the lockbox combo and the fact that the dog has no teeth.

WOW.
Somebody needs to improve their MLS entry skills.[/quote]

Not just that – because of the way they entered the address – it can’t be mapped… Typically I see the address of a muli-unit looking like 3776-80 Centre They did it as 3780/76 Centre… The slash, the listing of the high address first… Sites like Redfin get confused. (It’s why I listed both links in the OP.)

The person who entered this made some mistakes, no question about that.

I’d be curious to know why the seller thinks it’s gone up $240k… New electrical is nice, but it’s still listed as needing TLC.

[UCGal]

[quote=urbanrealtor]And the other problem is that those remarks are in the public section.
Generally they are in the confidential section with the lockbox combo and the fact that the dog has no teeth.

WOW.
Somebody needs to improve their MLS entry skills.[/quote]

Not just that – because of the way they entered the address – it can’t be mapped… Typically I see the address of a muli-unit looking like 3776-80 Centre They did it as 3780/76 Centre… The slash, the listing of the high address first… Sites like Redfin get confused. (It’s why I listed both links in the OP.)

The person who entered this made some mistakes, no question about that.

I’d be curious to know why the seller thinks it’s gone up $240k… New electrical is nice, but it’s still listed as needing TLC.

[UCGal]

[quote=urbanrealtor]And the other problem is that those remarks are in the public section.
Generally they are in the confidential section with the lockbox combo and the fact that the dog has no teeth.

WOW.
Somebody needs to improve their MLS entry skills.[/quote]

Not just that – because of the way they entered the address – it can’t be mapped… Typically I see the address of a muli-unit looking like 3776-80 Centre They did it as 3780/76 Centre… The slash, the listing of the high address first… Sites like Redfin get confused. (It’s why I listed both links in the OP.)

The person who entered this made some mistakes, no question about that.

I’d be curious to know why the seller thinks it’s gone up $240k… New electrical is nice, but it’s still listed as needing TLC.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]CA renter, just playing devil’s advocate here.

Do you want 6 driving age residents living on each side of you?

Where are they going to park their cars?
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What prevents that in a SFR? Across the street from me they have 5 drivers, 5 cars. Kids grow to teenagers – get cars… they don’t move out anymore… And somehow that house doesn’t have more than 2 in the driveway/garage… the other 3 are on the street.

We have the same model house and have 4 people of driving age (and 2 kids) – only 2 drivers, 2 cars, which are both kept inside the garage and off the street. The city required us to provide an offstreet parking spot that was more draconian in requirements wrt the streetwall than the other spots. If we rent out the granny flat, in the future it will still be 2 cars in the garage – and on the side of the driveway for the granny flat tenant.

I don’t see your argument. Lots of multicar families in single family home neighborhoods.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]CA renter, just playing devil’s advocate here.

Do you want 6 driving age residents living on each side of you?

Where are they going to park their cars?
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What prevents that in a SFR? Across the street from me they have 5 drivers, 5 cars. Kids grow to teenagers – get cars… they don’t move out anymore… And somehow that house doesn’t have more than 2 in the driveway/garage… the other 3 are on the street.

We have the same model house and have 4 people of driving age (and 2 kids) – only 2 drivers, 2 cars, which are both kept inside the garage and off the street. The city required us to provide an offstreet parking spot that was more draconian in requirements wrt the streetwall than the other spots. If we rent out the granny flat, in the future it will still be 2 cars in the garage – and on the side of the driveway for the granny flat tenant.

I don’t see your argument. Lots of multicar families in single family home neighborhoods.

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