[The-Shoveler]

To each their own.
To a Lot of people I know, the weather’s actually better 9 months out of the year 8-15 miles from the coast in SoCal especially when you get older.

In that range, usually it’s only way too dang hot maybe 3 or 4 weeks a year in SoCal.

[The-Shoveler]

Funny, SD and San Jose, are run very similar in a lot of respects, why do you think SJ companies started to move here in the late 80’s early 90’s.

It has more to do with the policies in a very small city really.

[The-Shoveler]

Most of todays CA lizard lands become tomorrows Job centers.

I have been around long enough to see it at least in three times in three locals, each further out from the other.

[The-Shoveler]

“Also, your opportunity usually occurs because because someone else who had the chance before you chickened out… My chicken out in some of the previous RE possibilities looks like there are a steal now…Someone else that picked them up did pretty well.”

If you picked anything up in the last 3 years IMO you did well.

Stop beating yourself in the head, you probably did a lot better than most, no one gets them all.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=flu][quote=CA renter]C’mon, flu. Share your thoughts. :)[/quote]

I’m throwing down the white flag here. RE prices are going higher. I can’t float with good cash flow at this point. Sucks that I didn’t buy more. Also, equity markets are going to float higher…Sucks to be in cash 40% too instead of previous 90%…

My last option is to buy a new primary..Which I will have to wait. Higher end homes haven’t gone *that* much higher, but at the same time neither has my budget.

No point wasting my time thinking RE prices are going to fall or correct in a meaningful way. Gotta think of other areas/ways to generate income.

Sometimes the biggest hazard to one’s wealth is one’s own pessimism….so I’ve learned.

Missed the boat bigtime…Oh well.[/quote]

Sometimes it can save your Butt too.

[The-Shoveler]

Yes I get it, not all Smart phone code is simple apps.

But I think a lot of people think the whole coding world is something that can be farmed out to the lowest bidder and completed in a month or two most…

it takes some serious commitment to/by an enginerd to make stuff that works. well then again, there is always the flashlight app.

Like I said, I think for at least a generation software enginerds will still be in demand,

The singularity is still a long ways off,

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=sdduuuude][quote=no_such_reality][quote=flu]
Bring it .[/quote]

I’m curious, have you seen Shipping Wars?

I see software development going to same way. Time, distance, location, all will basically be immaterial.

Just 200 Million people doing clever language tricks scrapping for a gig.[/quote]

That is a good theory.

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, however, that is not the case.[/quote]

Not every piece of code is a simple few hundred lines of code app.

I work on embedded systems with hundreds of files, probably a million or more lines of code,

it takes 6 months to a year to bring a good programmer up to speed.

OK go back to your android app’s, the whole world revolves around smart phone app’s.

Just kidding.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=sdduuuude][quote=flu]You know… maybe that’s the strategy AN… kinda like storage wars…

We should go in and bid up the places and let the final person overbid us…Drain everyone else’s fund by having them overpay…..Let everyone else run out of money first…[/quote]

Yes, because the people on storage wars are so brilliant and wealthy ![/quote]

Hester?
Just kidding,

anyway it kind of seems surreal to me, kind of like the matrix, (maybe scaredy is right).

Something is not right.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=flu][quote=The-Shoveler][quote=flu][quote=no_such_reality][quote=flu]
Bring it .[/quote]

I’m curious, have you seen Shipping Wars?

I see software development going to same way. Time, distance, location, all will basically be immaterial.

Just 200 Million people doing clever language tricks scrapping for a gig.[/quote]

Well, gee, I hope i’m not doing software for the rest of my life. But for a few years longer I think I can do probably write, market, and sell apps, maybe not cool games like the fart app or the flashlight app for $0.99…Maybe corporate solutions…

Then again, maybe I can continue to work on internals…Maybe I can work on payment tech. Or self aware apps. Automotive apps, security apps, media apps…

Not like any of these things are gonna get solved in the near future…[/quote]

Someones got to program all these Robots devices.

Software type Engineards are probably good for another generation maybe more IMO.

It is surprising tough to get someone from China or India to get on a remote session at 11:00 AM in the morning here to solve a problem.[/quote]

Then there’s people who think they can design systems and then there’s actual people who can… You can eliminate all the script kiddies, which is the majority of the people that get lumped into “software development”.[/quote]

Have you been to San Jose lately ?
Just kidding.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=flu][quote=no_such_reality][quote=flu]
Bring it .[/quote]

I’m curious, have you seen Shipping Wars?

I see software development going to same way. Time, distance, location, all will basically be immaterial.

Just 200 Million people doing clever language tricks scrapping for a gig.[/quote]

Well, gee, I hope i’m not doing software for the rest of my life. But for a few years longer I think I can do probably write, market, and sell apps, maybe not cool games like the fart app or the flashlight app for $0.99…Maybe corporate solutions…

Then again, maybe I can continue to work on internals…Maybe I can work on payment tech. Or self aware apps. Automotive apps, security apps, media apps…

Not like any of these things are gonna get solved in the near future…[/quote]

Someones got to program all these Robots devices.

Software type Engineards are probably good for another generation maybe more IMO.

It is surprising tough to get someone from China or India to get on a remote session at 11:00 AM in the morning here to solve a problem.

I guess they can’t just jump in their BMW and head to the office at midnight,

[The-Shoveler]

Guys I don’t think you get it,
In 10 years, you will go to Jack-in-the-box,
Speak your order into a mic or enter it on a keypad. Wave you credit card and the machine will take your picture and store it on a remote drive.
Then a machine will automatically pick from the various hoppers the raw materials it needs to make the meal and prepare it, bag it and hand it to you.
There will be one employee, who has a pager device that tells him/her that they need to go to one of the seven restaurants he is in charge of and reload the correct hopper.
Drones will ply the skies looking and tracking any wrong doers.
Enjoy.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=no_such_reality][quote=The-Shoveler]
Really do you just think it would be like Mad Max or something?[/quote]

No, I think it’s going to look a lot more like Caracas now or Rio of 20 years ago.

As for STEM degrees, well, that’s going to be our biggest failing. First we don’t train enough, second, we’re shipping all the junior roles out.

It’s really hard to get to be one of the thinkers that knows how things work, if you haven’t really had a good chance at learning the ropes. Those ropes learning jobs even in STEM are getting rarer.[/quote]

Well maybe and flu makes good points as well, but you are still going to end up with the top 15% being what we would call middle class.
Me I think we will end up with something like what Israel/UK and most of the EU has.
Minimum wage a lot closer to a living wage (say $15 an hour) (call it welfare , call it subsidized call it what you want).
The rest mostly the same,
The Top 15% or so living good, 50% able to survive OK (based on higher minimum wage) .

[The-Shoveler]

I think it was MIT who put all their courses online for free.

you don’t get the piece of paper but…

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=bobby][quote=AN]
I think they will have to adapt or die just like us. The smart one, the ingenious one, the hard working one will be fine, just like us. You just can’t be lazy and depend on other to hand you your opportunity anymore.[/quote]

not trying to make this political but with the entitlement mentality, I think those who don’t really want to work will also be just fine. No they won’t be as well off as those who are smart and industrious; but they won’t be homeless or starving. All they need is to vote for a policy that allows some redistribution of wealth.
(again, not debating the morality of this policy – just stating the belief that the social safety net and the current expectation will allow those who don’t do much to be OK).[/quote]

Bing!! bing!!

I think you hit it. It is unlikely they will be living large though, just OK.

Someone has to buy the stuff as well.

the 15% can’t just sell to the 15%.

With a little luck maybe we will get some works projects, like trains and better public transport.

You should see the projects they have going in China, it is very disappointing in some ways coming back home and seeing virtually nothing going on.

The money printing has just begun folks.

Really do you just think it would be like Mad Max or something?

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=livinincali][quote=The-Shoveler]manufacturing is making a comeback,

One word “Robots” well OK, two words,

Automation.[/quote]

Make sure you have a inexpensive energy source. All units of productivity from human labor or robots has two components. Efficiency and total energy consumption. Efficiency is limited by the second law of thermodynamics and there’s somewhat limited gains to be made in that realm. Means total energy output is the more important factor.[/quote]

This is one area where the USA has been recently making a lot of progress, we are almost a net energy exporter, and are project to be a net energy exporter by 2020.
We have hardly even begun to explore off the west coast yet, there is enough underwater methane for several million years of our current usage as well, OK so there is a little heat problem.

I think we will get into geo engineering as a necessity anyway as there is very little likelihood we will mend our carbon ways (read as in no chance in heck, If we gave up carbon, China would double their output just because).

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