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The-Shoveler
ParticipantAnyway sort of too late for that , Carlsbad already has a large industrial park, even oceanside has one on the planning books as well.
ParticipantYou did get the part where we are not quite a Central planning Government like China yet right ?
I worry sometimes.
ParticipantWhat if say you lose your Job in QCOM and have to work in Carlsbad for one of it’s new rivals ?
it’s all relative, Not “ALL” the Jobs will be close to CV forever LOL.
It’s not a central Gov Yet LOL
ParticipantI believe that going to be true for most coastal area’s (priced out), been that way in L.A. for 20 or so years.
but it did not stop the inland area’s from being built. (and still being built).
ParticipantIMO there is a huge amount of buildable Land in SD county,
(a lot of it not coastal true) but buildable none the less,Seems to me even in SD city boundaries there is quite a bit left.
it may need re-zoning however.
I know it will never happen, but if camp pendleton ever closed that would be what 20-miles of coast line?
Even close to Downtown, there are quite a few area’s that it would make sense to be redeveloped in to much higher density at some point when the cost/rewards made sense.
That’s what is happening in LA downtown.
ParticipantIt’s the next one I am worried about.
PIIOPBYThe Heck with what the local’s think.
ParticipantYou would know better than I flu.
Like I said my main objection is that it just seems TPTB in SD will just do what they want regardless of the local’s opinions/objections.
They have a plan by golly and they are going to implement it. So who is next LOL.
ParticipantWell between flu and flyer I think these are the first “somewhat” positive comments from people who actually have property in CV.
My main objection was it seemed like the City wanted to build the downtown they always wish for instead of rebuilding/expanding the current downtown area.
(just forcing their Idea on someone else’s community)Anyway better your back yard than mine (just kidding , sort of).
IMO (from my experience) adding density only works out well up to a certain point.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=The-Shoveler]LOL probably closer to “Encino” than Beverly Hills,
You need to be closer to “Rancho Santa Fe” to be compared to 90210. (which trust me is a good thing).
Only the servants kids go to public school in 90210.[/quote]
When I think of the San Fernando Valley of back in the day (like before 1996) I picture 1/2 country bumpkins.[/quote]
Funny, before the late 80’s there were quite a few Tech companies in the SF-Valley, about that time is when they moved to the burbs.
ParticipantNow they have a 15 foot solid wall around the Van Nuys Costco so the Gangbanger’s don’t shoot the customers.
ParticipantLOL probably closer to “Encino” than Beverly Hills,
You need to be closer to “Rancho Santa Fe” to be compared to 90210. (which trust me is a good thing).
Only the servants kids go to public school in 90210.
ParticipantOn the plus side, if this goes through, maybe you can be called a “val” too flu.
Just kidding, but we would have to remove the Dealers license plate frames if you bought your car from a SF-Valley dealer before going to the beach if you did not want your car damaged (back in the day).
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=spdrun]
Yes that’s what the Ivy hall types keep trying to sell the public, but the buyers are voting with their pocket books and the builders are listening.
Riddle me this: if there’s no demand, why are good downtown areas so damned expensive per sq ft?[/quote]
Shoveler is a few decades late. At one time, people were abandoning the city and moving to the suburbs. In the 1960s and 1970s. The trend started reversing in the late 1980s.
What Shoveler forgets that it that the suburbs and beyond were made possible by a subsidy regime that funds highway construction and forces public and private companies (eg telecom) to provide services out in the boonies for the same price.
Left to market forces, services providers, from the post office to telecom, cable and utilities, would charge more where there are fewer users and lower economies of scale.[/quote]
Most the Big Cities were started because of the importance of their ocean and river ports (for transport and commerce), though still important they are not nearly so much as they were 80 or so years ago.
IMO the recent high prices are the result of hype and limited supply, that same limited (downtown) supply is the real limit to this success IMO (it only allows for a very small percentage of the population, it won’t scale).
ParticipantAN
I was just kidding about the PIIOPBY thing, but it does seem strange (or telling) that no one has come out and said, “I live in CV and I fully support this”.But really I don’t have a problem with nimbyism in SD.
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