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Participant[quote=paramount]Facts on Temecula-Murrieta area commuting:
*A survey conducted by planning agencies in Riverside and San Diego counties found that more than half of Temecula-Murrieta-French Valley households had at least one person commuting outside the county. For them, the average drive time was one hour.
*Forbes Magazine recently ranked the area first in its list of America’s most unhealthy commutes, beating out every other major metropolitan area in the country, as Inland area drivers breathe the unhealthiest air and have the highest rate of fatal auto accidents per capita. Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.
*Workers who live and work in this city: 39.7%
I think when people live in an area for a long period of time, and they are happy living there perspectives become a bit skewed.[/quote]
Unfortunately these are not really facts, most piggies love analyzing data, so if you are bored, here’s the 104 page pdf of that study. I already saw the problems with the study and that is why I used the raw data and made my own percentages, however the newspapers don’t look very deep and that is where you got your percentages.
http://www.i15irp.com/Appendix%20B_i15irp_0307.pdf
One particular item of note is on page 8, where the actual city of temecula has more jobs per household than the I-15 San Diego corridor as a whole, more than escondido, more than vista, but less than san marcos.
But the real problem with the study is dividing modern traffic counts into year 2000 census data in order to determine percentages. Using 2005 traffic paterns (which is where the 29k commuters numbers come from) then factoring those into census 2000 population figures for an area that grew at a rate as fast an any area in the country is just bad math. The used temec’s 2000 pop of 57k and murr’s as 44k, and similar innacurate numbers for the other sw county communities. All of the populations need to be roughly doubled. (they did however say that 40% of the commuters don’t go more than 30 miles, because I go one offramp away, I’ve commuted to another county). Another huge problem with saying only 39% of those that live in the city work in the city is that people with a commute of 5 miles, likely work in another city or unincorporated area. Both Scardey and I live in the unicorporated areas, of course I can wak to the city, I’m 150 yards from the city, but technically, I’m crossing municipal boundaries for not only work but gas and food. There are people who live in Poway, work in Rancho Bernardo and they technically don’t live in the city they work in, one is the City of S.D., while the other is the city of Poway.
But the real reason these so called fact are produced, these are produced by and for government agencies that want to support sales tax votes, these are the mass transit and carpool lane people. This is SanDag and Wrcog, these studies are designed for long term planning but also to create sound bytes for the media to write stories, helping the next ballot measure for their 1/2 cent sales tax. Paramount, you of all people know that you can only trust the government so much when it comes to justifying tax increases.
BTW, the forbes thing is not a sw county thing, it’s ratings are more about the region itself, I’ll give you that, an hour north, the riverside/san bernadino areas are horrible, bad air, bad commutes. The 91 is probably the worst freeway I know of.
If you have videotaped your commute in the rain, I can only say one thing, you need to move. You need to be happy and you aren’t. It is true that happy people tend to overlook things that other people don’t, guilty as charged. But the reverse is true, unhappy people tend to exaggerate the negative, then they start thinking everyone is siphoning their gas.
Participant[quote=paramount]Facts on Temecula-Murrieta area commuting:
*A survey conducted by planning agencies in Riverside and San Diego counties found that more than half of Temecula-Murrieta-French Valley households had at least one person commuting outside the county. For them, the average drive time was one hour.
*Forbes Magazine recently ranked the area first in its list of America’s most unhealthy commutes, beating out every other major metropolitan area in the country, as Inland area drivers breathe the unhealthiest air and have the highest rate of fatal auto accidents per capita. Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.
*Workers who live and work in this city: 39.7%
I think when people live in an area for a long period of time, and they are happy living there perspectives become a bit skewed.[/quote]
Unfortunately these are not really facts, most piggies love analyzing data, so if you are bored, here’s the 104 page pdf of that study. I already saw the problems with the study and that is why I used the raw data and made my own percentages, however the newspapers don’t look very deep and that is where you got your percentages.
http://www.i15irp.com/Appendix%20B_i15irp_0307.pdf
One particular item of note is on page 8, where the actual city of temecula has more jobs per household than the I-15 San Diego corridor as a whole, more than escondido, more than vista, but less than san marcos.
But the real problem with the study is dividing modern traffic counts into year 2000 census data in order to determine percentages. Using 2005 traffic paterns (which is where the 29k commuters numbers come from) then factoring those into census 2000 population figures for an area that grew at a rate as fast an any area in the country is just bad math. The used temec’s 2000 pop of 57k and murr’s as 44k, and similar innacurate numbers for the other sw county communities. All of the populations need to be roughly doubled. (they did however say that 40% of the commuters don’t go more than 30 miles, because I go one offramp away, I’ve commuted to another county). Another huge problem with saying only 39% of those that live in the city work in the city is that people with a commute of 5 miles, likely work in another city or unincorporated area. Both Scardey and I live in the unicorporated areas, of course I can wak to the city, I’m 150 yards from the city, but technically, I’m crossing municipal boundaries for not only work but gas and food. There are people who live in Poway, work in Rancho Bernardo and they technically don’t live in the city they work in, one is the City of S.D., while the other is the city of Poway.
But the real reason these so called fact are produced, these are produced by and for government agencies that want to support sales tax votes, these are the mass transit and carpool lane people. This is SanDag and Wrcog, these studies are designed for long term planning but also to create sound bytes for the media to write stories, helping the next ballot measure for their 1/2 cent sales tax. Paramount, you of all people know that you can only trust the government so much when it comes to justifying tax increases.
BTW, the forbes thing is not a sw county thing, it’s ratings are more about the region itself, I’ll give you that, an hour north, the riverside/san bernadino areas are horrible, bad air, bad commutes. The 91 is probably the worst freeway I know of.
If you have videotaped your commute in the rain, I can only say one thing, you need to move. You need to be happy and you aren’t. It is true that happy people tend to overlook things that other people don’t, guilty as charged. But the reverse is true, unhappy people tend to exaggerate the negative, then they start thinking everyone is siphoning their gas.
Participant[quote=paramount]Facts on Temecula-Murrieta area commuting:
*A survey conducted by planning agencies in Riverside and San Diego counties found that more than half of Temecula-Murrieta-French Valley households had at least one person commuting outside the county. For them, the average drive time was one hour.
*Forbes Magazine recently ranked the area first in its list of America’s most unhealthy commutes, beating out every other major metropolitan area in the country, as Inland area drivers breathe the unhealthiest air and have the highest rate of fatal auto accidents per capita. Gas siphoning has also been noted as a problem for vehicles left unattended in the region.
*Workers who live and work in this city: 39.7%
I think when people live in an area for a long period of time, and they are happy living there perspectives become a bit skewed.[/quote]
Unfortunately these are not really facts, most piggies love analyzing data, so if you are bored, here’s the 104 page pdf of that study. I already saw the problems with the study and that is why I used the raw data and made my own percentages, however the newspapers don’t look very deep and that is where you got your percentages.
http://www.i15irp.com/Appendix%20B_i15irp_0307.pdf
One particular item of note is on page 8, where the actual city of temecula has more jobs per household than the I-15 San Diego corridor as a whole, more than escondido, more than vista, but less than san marcos.
But the real problem with the study is dividing modern traffic counts into year 2000 census data in order to determine percentages. Using 2005 traffic paterns (which is where the 29k commuters numbers come from) then factoring those into census 2000 population figures for an area that grew at a rate as fast an any area in the country is just bad math. The used temec’s 2000 pop of 57k and murr’s as 44k, and similar innacurate numbers for the other sw county communities. All of the populations need to be roughly doubled. (they did however say that 40% of the commuters don’t go more than 30 miles, because I go one offramp away, I’ve commuted to another county). Another huge problem with saying only 39% of those that live in the city work in the city is that people with a commute of 5 miles, likely work in another city or unincorporated area. Both Scardey and I live in the unicorporated areas, of course I can wak to the city, I’m 150 yards from the city, but technically, I’m crossing municipal boundaries for not only work but gas and food. There are people who live in Poway, work in Rancho Bernardo and they technically don’t live in the city they work in, one is the City of S.D., while the other is the city of Poway.
But the real reason these so called fact are produced, these are produced by and for government agencies that want to support sales tax votes, these are the mass transit and carpool lane people. This is SanDag and Wrcog, these studies are designed for long term planning but also to create sound bytes for the media to write stories, helping the next ballot measure for their 1/2 cent sales tax. Paramount, you of all people know that you can only trust the government so much when it comes to justifying tax increases.
BTW, the forbes thing is not a sw county thing, it’s ratings are more about the region itself, I’ll give you that, an hour north, the riverside/san bernadino areas are horrible, bad air, bad commutes. The 91 is probably the worst freeway I know of.
If you have videotaped your commute in the rain, I can only say one thing, you need to move. You need to be happy and you aren’t. It is true that happy people tend to overlook things that other people don’t, guilty as charged. But the reverse is true, unhappy people tend to exaggerate the negative, then they start thinking everyone is siphoning their gas.
ParticipantThe paradigm is outdated that all people who live in the burbs work downtown. As a 20 year resident of this particular far flung outpost, I see fewer and fewer commuters leaving and commuters actually coming in. The traffic patterns have changed and studies have been done in this region to support this notion. It is now easier to get on the freeway in Temecula in the morning than it is to get off for those traveling South to Temecula. The greater valley is approaching 400k people, Tem/Mur actually has suburbs of it own. This little exhurb is bigger than cities that have their own professional sports teams. It’s a tipping point and it’s either already been reached or it’s near.
Before there were job losses, in 2007, probably the height of employment, only 37,000 residents of Riverside county commuted to San Diego County daily for work. 2/3 of those came from the Temecula Valley area, so Roughly 25,000 people, which is about 7% of the residents. Then when you factor in that some of those people aren’t going downtown, they are going to the North County, heading to places like Esco, Vista, San Marcos, where the drive is 30 minutes with minimal traffic. The remaining 3-5% are the ones driving the little cars, the hybrids and getting 40+. Or they are the unhappy ones, the ones that move closer to work, replaced by people who don’t work in an office in a big city every day.
But the Notion that everyone empties out at 7am and returns for dinner is no longer accurate. That $5 gas will hit 5% of the residents, who should have already done something about their carpooling or mpgs when it hit $4 a while back. Technology is changing how we live and will continue to change it.
ParticipantThe paradigm is outdated that all people who live in the burbs work downtown. As a 20 year resident of this particular far flung outpost, I see fewer and fewer commuters leaving and commuters actually coming in. The traffic patterns have changed and studies have been done in this region to support this notion. It is now easier to get on the freeway in Temecula in the morning than it is to get off for those traveling South to Temecula. The greater valley is approaching 400k people, Tem/Mur actually has suburbs of it own. This little exhurb is bigger than cities that have their own professional sports teams. It’s a tipping point and it’s either already been reached or it’s near.
Before there were job losses, in 2007, probably the height of employment, only 37,000 residents of Riverside county commuted to San Diego County daily for work. 2/3 of those came from the Temecula Valley area, so Roughly 25,000 people, which is about 7% of the residents. Then when you factor in that some of those people aren’t going downtown, they are going to the North County, heading to places like Esco, Vista, San Marcos, where the drive is 30 minutes with minimal traffic. The remaining 3-5% are the ones driving the little cars, the hybrids and getting 40+. Or they are the unhappy ones, the ones that move closer to work, replaced by people who don’t work in an office in a big city every day.
But the Notion that everyone empties out at 7am and returns for dinner is no longer accurate. That $5 gas will hit 5% of the residents, who should have already done something about their carpooling or mpgs when it hit $4 a while back. Technology is changing how we live and will continue to change it.
ParticipantThe paradigm is outdated that all people who live in the burbs work downtown. As a 20 year resident of this particular far flung outpost, I see fewer and fewer commuters leaving and commuters actually coming in. The traffic patterns have changed and studies have been done in this region to support this notion. It is now easier to get on the freeway in Temecula in the morning than it is to get off for those traveling South to Temecula. The greater valley is approaching 400k people, Tem/Mur actually has suburbs of it own. This little exhurb is bigger than cities that have their own professional sports teams. It’s a tipping point and it’s either already been reached or it’s near.
Before there were job losses, in 2007, probably the height of employment, only 37,000 residents of Riverside county commuted to San Diego County daily for work. 2/3 of those came from the Temecula Valley area, so Roughly 25,000 people, which is about 7% of the residents. Then when you factor in that some of those people aren’t going downtown, they are going to the North County, heading to places like Esco, Vista, San Marcos, where the drive is 30 minutes with minimal traffic. The remaining 3-5% are the ones driving the little cars, the hybrids and getting 40+. Or they are the unhappy ones, the ones that move closer to work, replaced by people who don’t work in an office in a big city every day.
But the Notion that everyone empties out at 7am and returns for dinner is no longer accurate. That $5 gas will hit 5% of the residents, who should have already done something about their carpooling or mpgs when it hit $4 a while back. Technology is changing how we live and will continue to change it.
ParticipantThe paradigm is outdated that all people who live in the burbs work downtown. As a 20 year resident of this particular far flung outpost, I see fewer and fewer commuters leaving and commuters actually coming in. The traffic patterns have changed and studies have been done in this region to support this notion. It is now easier to get on the freeway in Temecula in the morning than it is to get off for those traveling South to Temecula. The greater valley is approaching 400k people, Tem/Mur actually has suburbs of it own. This little exhurb is bigger than cities that have their own professional sports teams. It’s a tipping point and it’s either already been reached or it’s near.
Before there were job losses, in 2007, probably the height of employment, only 37,000 residents of Riverside county commuted to San Diego County daily for work. 2/3 of those came from the Temecula Valley area, so Roughly 25,000 people, which is about 7% of the residents. Then when you factor in that some of those people aren’t going downtown, they are going to the North County, heading to places like Esco, Vista, San Marcos, where the drive is 30 minutes with minimal traffic. The remaining 3-5% are the ones driving the little cars, the hybrids and getting 40+. Or they are the unhappy ones, the ones that move closer to work, replaced by people who don’t work in an office in a big city every day.
But the Notion that everyone empties out at 7am and returns for dinner is no longer accurate. That $5 gas will hit 5% of the residents, who should have already done something about their carpooling or mpgs when it hit $4 a while back. Technology is changing how we live and will continue to change it.
ParticipantThe paradigm is outdated that all people who live in the burbs work downtown. As a 20 year resident of this particular far flung outpost, I see fewer and fewer commuters leaving and commuters actually coming in. The traffic patterns have changed and studies have been done in this region to support this notion. It is now easier to get on the freeway in Temecula in the morning than it is to get off for those traveling South to Temecula. The greater valley is approaching 400k people, Tem/Mur actually has suburbs of it own. This little exhurb is bigger than cities that have their own professional sports teams. It’s a tipping point and it’s either already been reached or it’s near.
Before there were job losses, in 2007, probably the height of employment, only 37,000 residents of Riverside county commuted to San Diego County daily for work. 2/3 of those came from the Temecula Valley area, so Roughly 25,000 people, which is about 7% of the residents. Then when you factor in that some of those people aren’t going downtown, they are going to the North County, heading to places like Esco, Vista, San Marcos, where the drive is 30 minutes with minimal traffic. The remaining 3-5% are the ones driving the little cars, the hybrids and getting 40+. Or they are the unhappy ones, the ones that move closer to work, replaced by people who don’t work in an office in a big city every day.
But the Notion that everyone empties out at 7am and returns for dinner is no longer accurate. That $5 gas will hit 5% of the residents, who should have already done something about their carpooling or mpgs when it hit $4 a while back. Technology is changing how we live and will continue to change it.
ParticipantHere is the link that defines the strategy the best, the intro has my story and page 2 has more specifics on the exact strategy.
http://piggington.com/tg_closes_escrow
Some of the links don’t work as good as they did back then. Riverside county no longer gives out as much personal info and foreclosure sites give out less free info than they did. I’m sure there are ways now, I just don’t care as much, as a last resort, these public records are available in person at the county recorders office wherever the property is located.
As to BG’s comment about listing agents not caring about you because they represent the owner. That is true, that is important in every transaction except the “dump them in a day reo’s” where a buyers agent can slow you down and trip you up. Now that I saw the part about your realtor asking for a 45 day escrow, that is probably the reason you lost and the fact that she was slow/late is another reason, two strikes right there. Get a new realtor.
When my deal went down, I contacted both SDR and sdr and was going to have them do my deal but the distance was an issue as they do not work up here much and I needed them to be here in 5 minutes so I went straight for the listing agent and since that particular agent couldn’t technically represent me, I used the partner/friend of the actual listing agent at a pre negotiated 1% comission. Normally buyers don’t haggle with their agent, but in the case of these “best net offer” scenarios, your agent’s comission is coming out of your net offer so you are actually paying it. I think 1% is fair if I found it, I did all the work, all they have to do is write the contract and I tell them exactly what to write. It literally took 20 minutes. Did they kick some money back to the listing agent, are they related or friends with them, did the listng agent owe them a favor because the reverse happened the week before. I don’t know and I don’t care, but I had gotten the short end of the stick, like you and it happened a half dozen times because I was going only for distressed homes.
If I was in SD, I would use sd or SD, because it was a little nerve wracking with nobody actually on my side. But I’ve met both of them in person, drank with them and trust them, they think like me. If you look at what SDR wrote, most realtors don’t understand what he explained, that the more they try to protect your interests, the more they screw you out of the house. If they try and protect you, they are dooming you, in this type of scenario only, any sign of resistance or reservation, no soup for you.
I will say that both SD and sd were silent advisors to me through the process, I got advice from both on the many properties i failed to get, so I owe them their props. But I was bargain hunting, I was looking for a lucky break and had I used them with all the previous failures, they would have put in hundreds of hours of work before ever getting paid, so it’s probably better they are far away. I would have drove them nuts. Back then, in 2008, short sales were a mess, banks almost never went through with them, repos were unorginized and very few realtors could wrap their heads aroung this new paradigm. It’s a bit of a different ball game today so only some of what I wrote two years ago is applicable, good luck.
ParticipantHere is the link that defines the strategy the best, the intro has my story and page 2 has more specifics on the exact strategy.
http://piggington.com/tg_closes_escrow
Some of the links don’t work as good as they did back then. Riverside county no longer gives out as much personal info and foreclosure sites give out less free info than they did. I’m sure there are ways now, I just don’t care as much, as a last resort, these public records are available in person at the county recorders office wherever the property is located.
As to BG’s comment about listing agents not caring about you because they represent the owner. That is true, that is important in every transaction except the “dump them in a day reo’s” where a buyers agent can slow you down and trip you up. Now that I saw the part about your realtor asking for a 45 day escrow, that is probably the reason you lost and the fact that she was slow/late is another reason, two strikes right there. Get a new realtor.
When my deal went down, I contacted both SDR and sdr and was going to have them do my deal but the distance was an issue as they do not work up here much and I needed them to be here in 5 minutes so I went straight for the listing agent and since that particular agent couldn’t technically represent me, I used the partner/friend of the actual listing agent at a pre negotiated 1% comission. Normally buyers don’t haggle with their agent, but in the case of these “best net offer” scenarios, your agent’s comission is coming out of your net offer so you are actually paying it. I think 1% is fair if I found it, I did all the work, all they have to do is write the contract and I tell them exactly what to write. It literally took 20 minutes. Did they kick some money back to the listing agent, are they related or friends with them, did the listng agent owe them a favor because the reverse happened the week before. I don’t know and I don’t care, but I had gotten the short end of the stick, like you and it happened a half dozen times because I was going only for distressed homes.
If I was in SD, I would use sd or SD, because it was a little nerve wracking with nobody actually on my side. But I’ve met both of them in person, drank with them and trust them, they think like me. If you look at what SDR wrote, most realtors don’t understand what he explained, that the more they try to protect your interests, the more they screw you out of the house. If they try and protect you, they are dooming you, in this type of scenario only, any sign of resistance or reservation, no soup for you.
I will say that both SD and sd were silent advisors to me through the process, I got advice from both on the many properties i failed to get, so I owe them their props. But I was bargain hunting, I was looking for a lucky break and had I used them with all the previous failures, they would have put in hundreds of hours of work before ever getting paid, so it’s probably better they are far away. I would have drove them nuts. Back then, in 2008, short sales were a mess, banks almost never went through with them, repos were unorginized and very few realtors could wrap their heads aroung this new paradigm. It’s a bit of a different ball game today so only some of what I wrote two years ago is applicable, good luck.
ParticipantHere is the link that defines the strategy the best, the intro has my story and page 2 has more specifics on the exact strategy.
http://piggington.com/tg_closes_escrow
Some of the links don’t work as good as they did back then. Riverside county no longer gives out as much personal info and foreclosure sites give out less free info than they did. I’m sure there are ways now, I just don’t care as much, as a last resort, these public records are available in person at the county recorders office wherever the property is located.
As to BG’s comment about listing agents not caring about you because they represent the owner. That is true, that is important in every transaction except the “dump them in a day reo’s” where a buyers agent can slow you down and trip you up. Now that I saw the part about your realtor asking for a 45 day escrow, that is probably the reason you lost and the fact that she was slow/late is another reason, two strikes right there. Get a new realtor.
When my deal went down, I contacted both SDR and sdr and was going to have them do my deal but the distance was an issue as they do not work up here much and I needed them to be here in 5 minutes so I went straight for the listing agent and since that particular agent couldn’t technically represent me, I used the partner/friend of the actual listing agent at a pre negotiated 1% comission. Normally buyers don’t haggle with their agent, but in the case of these “best net offer” scenarios, your agent’s comission is coming out of your net offer so you are actually paying it. I think 1% is fair if I found it, I did all the work, all they have to do is write the contract and I tell them exactly what to write. It literally took 20 minutes. Did they kick some money back to the listing agent, are they related or friends with them, did the listng agent owe them a favor because the reverse happened the week before. I don’t know and I don’t care, but I had gotten the short end of the stick, like you and it happened a half dozen times because I was going only for distressed homes.
If I was in SD, I would use sd or SD, because it was a little nerve wracking with nobody actually on my side. But I’ve met both of them in person, drank with them and trust them, they think like me. If you look at what SDR wrote, most realtors don’t understand what he explained, that the more they try to protect your interests, the more they screw you out of the house. If they try and protect you, they are dooming you, in this type of scenario only, any sign of resistance or reservation, no soup for you.
I will say that both SD and sd were silent advisors to me through the process, I got advice from both on the many properties i failed to get, so I owe them their props. But I was bargain hunting, I was looking for a lucky break and had I used them with all the previous failures, they would have put in hundreds of hours of work before ever getting paid, so it’s probably better they are far away. I would have drove them nuts. Back then, in 2008, short sales were a mess, banks almost never went through with them, repos were unorginized and very few realtors could wrap their heads aroung this new paradigm. It’s a bit of a different ball game today so only some of what I wrote two years ago is applicable, good luck.
ParticipantHere is the link that defines the strategy the best, the intro has my story and page 2 has more specifics on the exact strategy.
http://piggington.com/tg_closes_escrow
Some of the links don’t work as good as they did back then. Riverside county no longer gives out as much personal info and foreclosure sites give out less free info than they did. I’m sure there are ways now, I just don’t care as much, as a last resort, these public records are available in person at the county recorders office wherever the property is located.
As to BG’s comment about listing agents not caring about you because they represent the owner. That is true, that is important in every transaction except the “dump them in a day reo’s” where a buyers agent can slow you down and trip you up. Now that I saw the part about your realtor asking for a 45 day escrow, that is probably the reason you lost and the fact that she was slow/late is another reason, two strikes right there. Get a new realtor.
When my deal went down, I contacted both SDR and sdr and was going to have them do my deal but the distance was an issue as they do not work up here much and I needed them to be here in 5 minutes so I went straight for the listing agent and since that particular agent couldn’t technically represent me, I used the partner/friend of the actual listing agent at a pre negotiated 1% comission. Normally buyers don’t haggle with their agent, but in the case of these “best net offer” scenarios, your agent’s comission is coming out of your net offer so you are actually paying it. I think 1% is fair if I found it, I did all the work, all they have to do is write the contract and I tell them exactly what to write. It literally took 20 minutes. Did they kick some money back to the listing agent, are they related or friends with them, did the listng agent owe them a favor because the reverse happened the week before. I don’t know and I don’t care, but I had gotten the short end of the stick, like you and it happened a half dozen times because I was going only for distressed homes.
If I was in SD, I would use sd or SD, because it was a little nerve wracking with nobody actually on my side. But I’ve met both of them in person, drank with them and trust them, they think like me. If you look at what SDR wrote, most realtors don’t understand what he explained, that the more they try to protect your interests, the more they screw you out of the house. If they try and protect you, they are dooming you, in this type of scenario only, any sign of resistance or reservation, no soup for you.
I will say that both SD and sd were silent advisors to me through the process, I got advice from both on the many properties i failed to get, so I owe them their props. But I was bargain hunting, I was looking for a lucky break and had I used them with all the previous failures, they would have put in hundreds of hours of work before ever getting paid, so it’s probably better they are far away. I would have drove them nuts. Back then, in 2008, short sales were a mess, banks almost never went through with them, repos were unorginized and very few realtors could wrap their heads aroung this new paradigm. It’s a bit of a different ball game today so only some of what I wrote two years ago is applicable, good luck.
ParticipantHere is the link that defines the strategy the best, the intro has my story and page 2 has more specifics on the exact strategy.
http://piggington.com/tg_closes_escrow
Some of the links don’t work as good as they did back then. Riverside county no longer gives out as much personal info and foreclosure sites give out less free info than they did. I’m sure there are ways now, I just don’t care as much, as a last resort, these public records are available in person at the county recorders office wherever the property is located.
As to BG’s comment about listing agents not caring about you because they represent the owner. That is true, that is important in every transaction except the “dump them in a day reo’s” where a buyers agent can slow you down and trip you up. Now that I saw the part about your realtor asking for a 45 day escrow, that is probably the reason you lost and the fact that she was slow/late is another reason, two strikes right there. Get a new realtor.
When my deal went down, I contacted both SDR and sdr and was going to have them do my deal but the distance was an issue as they do not work up here much and I needed them to be here in 5 minutes so I went straight for the listing agent and since that particular agent couldn’t technically represent me, I used the partner/friend of the actual listing agent at a pre negotiated 1% comission. Normally buyers don’t haggle with their agent, but in the case of these “best net offer” scenarios, your agent’s comission is coming out of your net offer so you are actually paying it. I think 1% is fair if I found it, I did all the work, all they have to do is write the contract and I tell them exactly what to write. It literally took 20 minutes. Did they kick some money back to the listing agent, are they related or friends with them, did the listng agent owe them a favor because the reverse happened the week before. I don’t know and I don’t care, but I had gotten the short end of the stick, like you and it happened a half dozen times because I was going only for distressed homes.
If I was in SD, I would use sd or SD, because it was a little nerve wracking with nobody actually on my side. But I’ve met both of them in person, drank with them and trust them, they think like me. If you look at what SDR wrote, most realtors don’t understand what he explained, that the more they try to protect your interests, the more they screw you out of the house. If they try and protect you, they are dooming you, in this type of scenario only, any sign of resistance or reservation, no soup for you.
I will say that both SD and sd were silent advisors to me through the process, I got advice from both on the many properties i failed to get, so I owe them their props. But I was bargain hunting, I was looking for a lucky break and had I used them with all the previous failures, they would have put in hundreds of hours of work before ever getting paid, so it’s probably better they are far away. I would have drove them nuts. Back then, in 2008, short sales were a mess, banks almost never went through with them, repos were unorginized and very few realtors could wrap their heads aroung this new paradigm. It’s a bit of a different ball game today so only some of what I wrote two years ago is applicable, good luck.
ParticipantBG, you need not take things I write too literally. These are jokes, unfortunately sarcasm and humor are tricky to write, maybe I’m not doing it correctly.
But to your comment, I’m 43, I’m not a boomer. I have no problems finding dates, I just like making jokes and abstract social commentary. But regarding boomers, they are less likley to use the internet for social networking and men more likely than women so that is why you saw an imbalance. Socially those women tend to behave a little more conservatively, they are from a different time. When they were younger it was rare to find them making out with girls, piercing their naughty bits or having sex with more than one person at a time. But when those women become grandmas, look out. My jokes were pointed at the fact that when women my age get older, when the lower back tattoo/implants/something naughty pierced/sexually liberated crowd gets old, it will be different social environment than it is today. The part about leading a healthy life and planning my finances so I can enjoy my golden years, that was not a joke. Of course my version of “enjoy my golden years” is predicated on my belief that in 20 or 30 years, casual sex will be rampant amongst the elderly.
But this is a severe thread-jack and I’m obviously losing my touch if I have explain my jokes.
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