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temeculaguy
ParticipantAfter reading that exchange between jasper and CA renter, I’m, literally exhausted and convinced men and women are not meant to do anything other than mate.
If I can figure out a way to be gay and not have sex with men, I think I’m going with that.
temeculaguy
ParticipantAfter reading that exchange between jasper and CA renter, I’m, literally exhausted and convinced men and women are not meant to do anything other than mate.
If I can figure out a way to be gay and not have sex with men, I think I’m going with that.
temeculaguy
ParticipantAfter reading that exchange between jasper and CA renter, I’m, literally exhausted and convinced men and women are not meant to do anything other than mate.
If I can figure out a way to be gay and not have sex with men, I think I’m going with that.
temeculaguy
ParticipantBaron, there are literally thousands of very rich folk in a number of communities beyond the tract homes up here. These are not the daily worker bees, most that I’ve met are O.C. evacuees who are young retirees, not young families and they can get 4,000 to 7,000 sq ft house on 3-5 acres with horses and grapes for under 2 mil, a mere trade for their place on the coast. Some call them gentlemen ranchers, but they aren’t as flashy as most and seek a little solitude centrally located in So cal because many have family ties or consulting part time gigs and just don’t want to move to Texas or Colorado to get their horse. A lot of the places were there long before the R/E boom, some people just dig that lifestyle.
You are right, they don’t seem to be budging much on their price for the most part and many think they should have made money since 2005. I’d imagine that custom places on land are very difficult to appraise and price, it’s such a niche market. I just looked at one that backed to a communal airstrip and had a helicopter pad. How the heck are you supposed to determine how much airplane or helicopter parking adds to the value?
There is still hope, this one did drop it’s price a half million two weeks ago.
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1429643
And this one has been dropping 100k every two weeks
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1476966
No matter how nice they are, they don’t set the price, the market does.
I love this one, his cellar is awesome but 2.5 mil and they haven’t done the lot yet (no pool, no vines, no corral, no tennis) you’d be the only guy on the block without tennis courts, how ghetto can you get.
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1310644
temeculaguy
ParticipantBaron, there are literally thousands of very rich folk in a number of communities beyond the tract homes up here. These are not the daily worker bees, most that I’ve met are O.C. evacuees who are young retirees, not young families and they can get 4,000 to 7,000 sq ft house on 3-5 acres with horses and grapes for under 2 mil, a mere trade for their place on the coast. Some call them gentlemen ranchers, but they aren’t as flashy as most and seek a little solitude centrally located in So cal because many have family ties or consulting part time gigs and just don’t want to move to Texas or Colorado to get their horse. A lot of the places were there long before the R/E boom, some people just dig that lifestyle.
You are right, they don’t seem to be budging much on their price for the most part and many think they should have made money since 2005. I’d imagine that custom places on land are very difficult to appraise and price, it’s such a niche market. I just looked at one that backed to a communal airstrip and had a helicopter pad. How the heck are you supposed to determine how much airplane or helicopter parking adds to the value?
There is still hope, this one did drop it’s price a half million two weeks ago.
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1429643
And this one has been dropping 100k every two weeks
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1476966
No matter how nice they are, they don’t set the price, the market does.
I love this one, his cellar is awesome but 2.5 mil and they haven’t done the lot yet (no pool, no vines, no corral, no tennis) you’d be the only guy on the block without tennis courts, how ghetto can you get.
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1310644
temeculaguy
ParticipantBaron, there are literally thousands of very rich folk in a number of communities beyond the tract homes up here. These are not the daily worker bees, most that I’ve met are O.C. evacuees who are young retirees, not young families and they can get 4,000 to 7,000 sq ft house on 3-5 acres with horses and grapes for under 2 mil, a mere trade for their place on the coast. Some call them gentlemen ranchers, but they aren’t as flashy as most and seek a little solitude centrally located in So cal because many have family ties or consulting part time gigs and just don’t want to move to Texas or Colorado to get their horse. A lot of the places were there long before the R/E boom, some people just dig that lifestyle.
You are right, they don’t seem to be budging much on their price for the most part and many think they should have made money since 2005. I’d imagine that custom places on land are very difficult to appraise and price, it’s such a niche market. I just looked at one that backed to a communal airstrip and had a helicopter pad. How the heck are you supposed to determine how much airplane or helicopter parking adds to the value?
There is still hope, this one did drop it’s price a half million two weeks ago.
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1429643
And this one has been dropping 100k every two weeks
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1476966
No matter how nice they are, they don’t set the price, the market does.
I love this one, his cellar is awesome but 2.5 mil and they haven’t done the lot yet (no pool, no vines, no corral, no tennis) you’d be the only guy on the block without tennis courts, how ghetto can you get.
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1310644
temeculaguy
ParticipantBaron, there are literally thousands of very rich folk in a number of communities beyond the tract homes up here. These are not the daily worker bees, most that I’ve met are O.C. evacuees who are young retirees, not young families and they can get 4,000 to 7,000 sq ft house on 3-5 acres with horses and grapes for under 2 mil, a mere trade for their place on the coast. Some call them gentlemen ranchers, but they aren’t as flashy as most and seek a little solitude centrally located in So cal because many have family ties or consulting part time gigs and just don’t want to move to Texas or Colorado to get their horse. A lot of the places were there long before the R/E boom, some people just dig that lifestyle.
You are right, they don’t seem to be budging much on their price for the most part and many think they should have made money since 2005. I’d imagine that custom places on land are very difficult to appraise and price, it’s such a niche market. I just looked at one that backed to a communal airstrip and had a helicopter pad. How the heck are you supposed to determine how much airplane or helicopter parking adds to the value?
There is still hope, this one did drop it’s price a half million two weeks ago.
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1429643
And this one has been dropping 100k every two weeks
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1476966
No matter how nice they are, they don’t set the price, the market does.
I love this one, his cellar is awesome but 2.5 mil and they haven’t done the lot yet (no pool, no vines, no corral, no tennis) you’d be the only guy on the block without tennis courts, how ghetto can you get.
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1310644
temeculaguy
ParticipantBaron, there are literally thousands of very rich folk in a number of communities beyond the tract homes up here. These are not the daily worker bees, most that I’ve met are O.C. evacuees who are young retirees, not young families and they can get 4,000 to 7,000 sq ft house on 3-5 acres with horses and grapes for under 2 mil, a mere trade for their place on the coast. Some call them gentlemen ranchers, but they aren’t as flashy as most and seek a little solitude centrally located in So cal because many have family ties or consulting part time gigs and just don’t want to move to Texas or Colorado to get their horse. A lot of the places were there long before the R/E boom, some people just dig that lifestyle.
You are right, they don’t seem to be budging much on their price for the most part and many think they should have made money since 2005. I’d imagine that custom places on land are very difficult to appraise and price, it’s such a niche market. I just looked at one that backed to a communal airstrip and had a helicopter pad. How the heck are you supposed to determine how much airplane or helicopter parking adds to the value?
There is still hope, this one did drop it’s price a half million two weeks ago.
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1429643
And this one has been dropping 100k every two weeks
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1476966
No matter how nice they are, they don’t set the price, the market does.
I love this one, his cellar is awesome but 2.5 mil and they haven’t done the lot yet (no pool, no vines, no corral, no tennis) you’d be the only guy on the block without tennis courts, how ghetto can you get.
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1310644
temeculaguy
ParticipantI love it! Pain Train analogies, good show EX-SD.
Waitingpatiently, do as your name implies and just wait and see, with markets such as those you are going to have to. You may be suprised, it might come earlier, it might be worse than you expected, both happened to my market. Before you dismiss it because of the positive things going for your chosen markets understand that historically the premium for the premium areas as a percentage is fairly constant. If it cost twice as much to live in the premium areas and all areas doubled then retreated but the premium areas didn’t retreat, then the same happened in again in the next bubble, eventually the premium areas would command ten times what the other areas do, and that is not reality, so do not lose hope, the train is a coming.
Do not set calendar goals, set price goals with fundamental verification. A while back I set price goals but with the kicker that I would combine it with declining nod’s, not’s and inventory. My price goals were reached way ahead of schedule but the kicker hasn’t kicked, the nods, nots and inventory are still rising so I keep waiting. Start making charts and spreadsheets, pick data points and track them, they will help you keep your sanity and keep you from missing out. If your price goals were met by the end of the year but nod’s, nots and inventory were double what they are today and were rising, would you buy? Don’t just pull an “I want an oompa loompa and I want one now,” make it a game and win it.
temeculaguy
ParticipantI love it! Pain Train analogies, good show EX-SD.
Waitingpatiently, do as your name implies and just wait and see, with markets such as those you are going to have to. You may be suprised, it might come earlier, it might be worse than you expected, both happened to my market. Before you dismiss it because of the positive things going for your chosen markets understand that historically the premium for the premium areas as a percentage is fairly constant. If it cost twice as much to live in the premium areas and all areas doubled then retreated but the premium areas didn’t retreat, then the same happened in again in the next bubble, eventually the premium areas would command ten times what the other areas do, and that is not reality, so do not lose hope, the train is a coming.
Do not set calendar goals, set price goals with fundamental verification. A while back I set price goals but with the kicker that I would combine it with declining nod’s, not’s and inventory. My price goals were reached way ahead of schedule but the kicker hasn’t kicked, the nods, nots and inventory are still rising so I keep waiting. Start making charts and spreadsheets, pick data points and track them, they will help you keep your sanity and keep you from missing out. If your price goals were met by the end of the year but nod’s, nots and inventory were double what they are today and were rising, would you buy? Don’t just pull an “I want an oompa loompa and I want one now,” make it a game and win it.
temeculaguy
ParticipantI love it! Pain Train analogies, good show EX-SD.
Waitingpatiently, do as your name implies and just wait and see, with markets such as those you are going to have to. You may be suprised, it might come earlier, it might be worse than you expected, both happened to my market. Before you dismiss it because of the positive things going for your chosen markets understand that historically the premium for the premium areas as a percentage is fairly constant. If it cost twice as much to live in the premium areas and all areas doubled then retreated but the premium areas didn’t retreat, then the same happened in again in the next bubble, eventually the premium areas would command ten times what the other areas do, and that is not reality, so do not lose hope, the train is a coming.
Do not set calendar goals, set price goals with fundamental verification. A while back I set price goals but with the kicker that I would combine it with declining nod’s, not’s and inventory. My price goals were reached way ahead of schedule but the kicker hasn’t kicked, the nods, nots and inventory are still rising so I keep waiting. Start making charts and spreadsheets, pick data points and track them, they will help you keep your sanity and keep you from missing out. If your price goals were met by the end of the year but nod’s, nots and inventory were double what they are today and were rising, would you buy? Don’t just pull an “I want an oompa loompa and I want one now,” make it a game and win it.
temeculaguy
ParticipantI love it! Pain Train analogies, good show EX-SD.
Waitingpatiently, do as your name implies and just wait and see, with markets such as those you are going to have to. You may be suprised, it might come earlier, it might be worse than you expected, both happened to my market. Before you dismiss it because of the positive things going for your chosen markets understand that historically the premium for the premium areas as a percentage is fairly constant. If it cost twice as much to live in the premium areas and all areas doubled then retreated but the premium areas didn’t retreat, then the same happened in again in the next bubble, eventually the premium areas would command ten times what the other areas do, and that is not reality, so do not lose hope, the train is a coming.
Do not set calendar goals, set price goals with fundamental verification. A while back I set price goals but with the kicker that I would combine it with declining nod’s, not’s and inventory. My price goals were reached way ahead of schedule but the kicker hasn’t kicked, the nods, nots and inventory are still rising so I keep waiting. Start making charts and spreadsheets, pick data points and track them, they will help you keep your sanity and keep you from missing out. If your price goals were met by the end of the year but nod’s, nots and inventory were double what they are today and were rising, would you buy? Don’t just pull an “I want an oompa loompa and I want one now,” make it a game and win it.
temeculaguy
ParticipantI love it! Pain Train analogies, good show EX-SD.
Waitingpatiently, do as your name implies and just wait and see, with markets such as those you are going to have to. You may be suprised, it might come earlier, it might be worse than you expected, both happened to my market. Before you dismiss it because of the positive things going for your chosen markets understand that historically the premium for the premium areas as a percentage is fairly constant. If it cost twice as much to live in the premium areas and all areas doubled then retreated but the premium areas didn’t retreat, then the same happened in again in the next bubble, eventually the premium areas would command ten times what the other areas do, and that is not reality, so do not lose hope, the train is a coming.
Do not set calendar goals, set price goals with fundamental verification. A while back I set price goals but with the kicker that I would combine it with declining nod’s, not’s and inventory. My price goals were reached way ahead of schedule but the kicker hasn’t kicked, the nods, nots and inventory are still rising so I keep waiting. Start making charts and spreadsheets, pick data points and track them, they will help you keep your sanity and keep you from missing out. If your price goals were met by the end of the year but nod’s, nots and inventory were double what they are today and were rising, would you buy? Don’t just pull an “I want an oompa loompa and I want one now,” make it a game and win it.
temeculaguy
ParticipantI’m in. We have discussed this a few times, there’s no perfect time or place, someone is just going to have to pick one and see how it goes. I vote for a Mon or Tue, happy hour somewhere central or north of the 8. I’ll bet weekends get booked for most people, maybe a Sunday afternoon event, there is a Laker game at noon on Sunday, I was planning on being in a sports bar on Sunday for that anyway. Probably easier for the married guys to get permission for something like that than a friday night, leaving the wife at home with the kids to hang out with your internet friends and talk about math. That excuse sounds so lame she will automatically assume your going to a strip club. Come to think about, that is another option.
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