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ParticipantThis country values human life and personal rights over property, always will. That is why the punishment for theft, burglary and robbery are different. If someone sneaks into walmart at night and steals $100 worth of stuff vs. sneaking into your home while you are at work and steals $100 worth of stuff vs. pointing a gun in your face and making you hand over $100 (or even just threatening to beat you). Three different penalties with the one done with a threat to your person being the harshest and the one done at a business or a vehicle being lower than the residence. If the law is designed to discourage certain behaviors more than others, I would prefer not being present if I were to have $100 stolen. And if I could pick between having my car ransacked or my house, I’d prefer the car. Another example is if a theif steals your car from a parking lot, the crime is not eligible for 3 strikes, if they steal it with you and your kids in it (carjacking), the penaly is harsher and it is 3 strikes eligible, take my car, leave me and my kids out of the whole transaction. If the penalties were the same there would be more carjackings and less garden variety car theft. Things are fine the way they are, if it’s my money or my life, take my money, I’ll get more.
On another note not related to criminal law 101, I am suprised we haven’t heard from coreclient or any of the people involved in the hendrix-montecastro filipino nurse murrieta church swindle that was such big news a year or so ago, local papers reported the FBI served search warrants on the big players homes in that case but I can’t find the names of those indicted to see if they were scooped up in the net.
ParticipantThis country values human life and personal rights over property, always will. That is why the punishment for theft, burglary and robbery are different. If someone sneaks into walmart at night and steals $100 worth of stuff vs. sneaking into your home while you are at work and steals $100 worth of stuff vs. pointing a gun in your face and making you hand over $100 (or even just threatening to beat you). Three different penalties with the one done with a threat to your person being the harshest and the one done at a business or a vehicle being lower than the residence. If the law is designed to discourage certain behaviors more than others, I would prefer not being present if I were to have $100 stolen. And if I could pick between having my car ransacked or my house, I’d prefer the car. Another example is if a theif steals your car from a parking lot, the crime is not eligible for 3 strikes, if they steal it with you and your kids in it (carjacking), the penaly is harsher and it is 3 strikes eligible, take my car, leave me and my kids out of the whole transaction. If the penalties were the same there would be more carjackings and less garden variety car theft. Things are fine the way they are, if it’s my money or my life, take my money, I’ll get more.
On another note not related to criminal law 101, I am suprised we haven’t heard from coreclient or any of the people involved in the hendrix-montecastro filipino nurse murrieta church swindle that was such big news a year or so ago, local papers reported the FBI served search warrants on the big players homes in that case but I can’t find the names of those indicted to see if they were scooped up in the net.
ParticipantThis country values human life and personal rights over property, always will. That is why the punishment for theft, burglary and robbery are different. If someone sneaks into walmart at night and steals $100 worth of stuff vs. sneaking into your home while you are at work and steals $100 worth of stuff vs. pointing a gun in your face and making you hand over $100 (or even just threatening to beat you). Three different penalties with the one done with a threat to your person being the harshest and the one done at a business or a vehicle being lower than the residence. If the law is designed to discourage certain behaviors more than others, I would prefer not being present if I were to have $100 stolen. And if I could pick between having my car ransacked or my house, I’d prefer the car. Another example is if a theif steals your car from a parking lot, the crime is not eligible for 3 strikes, if they steal it with you and your kids in it (carjacking), the penaly is harsher and it is 3 strikes eligible, take my car, leave me and my kids out of the whole transaction. If the penalties were the same there would be more carjackings and less garden variety car theft. Things are fine the way they are, if it’s my money or my life, take my money, I’ll get more.
On another note not related to criminal law 101, I am suprised we haven’t heard from coreclient or any of the people involved in the hendrix-montecastro filipino nurse murrieta church swindle that was such big news a year or so ago, local papers reported the FBI served search warrants on the big players homes in that case but I can’t find the names of those indicted to see if they were scooped up in the net.
ParticipantI agree they are nicest in our hood for a number of reasons and there aren’t very many of them, but I am fairly certain we will see 6’s and 7’s inside of 12 months, maybe not asking prices, but selling prices. Morgan Valley is already seeing 4’s 5’s and 6’s as the their first number in the asking prices, Ventana’s will command more but not double.
ParticipantI agree they are nicest in our hood for a number of reasons and there aren’t very many of them, but I am fairly certain we will see 6’s and 7’s inside of 12 months, maybe not asking prices, but selling prices. Morgan Valley is already seeing 4’s 5’s and 6’s as the their first number in the asking prices, Ventana’s will command more but not double.
ParticipantI agree they are nicest in our hood for a number of reasons and there aren’t very many of them, but I am fairly certain we will see 6’s and 7’s inside of 12 months, maybe not asking prices, but selling prices. Morgan Valley is already seeing 4’s 5’s and 6’s as the their first number in the asking prices, Ventana’s will command more but not double.
ParticipantI agree they are nicest in our hood for a number of reasons and there aren’t very many of them, but I am fairly certain we will see 6’s and 7’s inside of 12 months, maybe not asking prices, but selling prices. Morgan Valley is already seeing 4’s 5’s and 6’s as the their first number in the asking prices, Ventana’s will command more but not double.
ParticipantI agree they are nicest in our hood for a number of reasons and there aren’t very many of them, but I am fairly certain we will see 6’s and 7’s inside of 12 months, maybe not asking prices, but selling prices. Morgan Valley is already seeing 4’s 5’s and 6’s as the their first number in the asking prices, Ventana’s will command more but not double.
ParticipantApples and oranges, De Luz and Morgan hill are two entirely different ways of life, near impossible to compare. The De Luz house is off a dirt road, in an all custom area or unicorporated 5 acre minimum, while frogs leap is within a master planned community with sidewalks on 1/2 acre lots. It’s a choice that is up to you, do you want land? Privacy vs. convenience. De Luz is gorgeous and semi rural, yet close. Morgan is 1/2 mile to stores. The frog leap traact extend to Arietta as well, same builder. Here’s one cheaper and they have sold in the 8’s, the ones higher won’t sell, I see 6’s as reality, 7’s max, nothing more.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/34003-Arietta-92592/home/6571039
Tony Tobin is a top notch school
There are no plans to develop the area South of Morgan, other than a sliver of land, it’s mountains and they are contained in the Pechanga reservation and the Cleveland National Forrest. That alone is not an absolute gurantee of no future development but the terrain and geology is, those mountains cannot be smoothed over like other land, it’s too rocky and too steep, notice how on the map there isn’t a single house on those mountains, too steep and too rough for utilities, sewer or septic. I don’t even see any cell phone towers on those hills, the indians are real particular about keeping it the way it is. SDGE did a study a few years back and they could’t even run a transmission line through that land even if they could get permission due to the terrain, I’m willing to wager it will look the same in 50 years. It is still apples and oranges to compare the two.
ParticipantApples and oranges, De Luz and Morgan hill are two entirely different ways of life, near impossible to compare. The De Luz house is off a dirt road, in an all custom area or unicorporated 5 acre minimum, while frogs leap is within a master planned community with sidewalks on 1/2 acre lots. It’s a choice that is up to you, do you want land? Privacy vs. convenience. De Luz is gorgeous and semi rural, yet close. Morgan is 1/2 mile to stores. The frog leap traact extend to Arietta as well, same builder. Here’s one cheaper and they have sold in the 8’s, the ones higher won’t sell, I see 6’s as reality, 7’s max, nothing more.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/34003-Arietta-92592/home/6571039
Tony Tobin is a top notch school
There are no plans to develop the area South of Morgan, other than a sliver of land, it’s mountains and they are contained in the Pechanga reservation and the Cleveland National Forrest. That alone is not an absolute gurantee of no future development but the terrain and geology is, those mountains cannot be smoothed over like other land, it’s too rocky and too steep, notice how on the map there isn’t a single house on those mountains, too steep and too rough for utilities, sewer or septic. I don’t even see any cell phone towers on those hills, the indians are real particular about keeping it the way it is. SDGE did a study a few years back and they could’t even run a transmission line through that land even if they could get permission due to the terrain, I’m willing to wager it will look the same in 50 years. It is still apples and oranges to compare the two.
ParticipantApples and oranges, De Luz and Morgan hill are two entirely different ways of life, near impossible to compare. The De Luz house is off a dirt road, in an all custom area or unicorporated 5 acre minimum, while frogs leap is within a master planned community with sidewalks on 1/2 acre lots. It’s a choice that is up to you, do you want land? Privacy vs. convenience. De Luz is gorgeous and semi rural, yet close. Morgan is 1/2 mile to stores. The frog leap traact extend to Arietta as well, same builder. Here’s one cheaper and they have sold in the 8’s, the ones higher won’t sell, I see 6’s as reality, 7’s max, nothing more.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/34003-Arietta-92592/home/6571039
Tony Tobin is a top notch school
There are no plans to develop the area South of Morgan, other than a sliver of land, it’s mountains and they are contained in the Pechanga reservation and the Cleveland National Forrest. That alone is not an absolute gurantee of no future development but the terrain and geology is, those mountains cannot be smoothed over like other land, it’s too rocky and too steep, notice how on the map there isn’t a single house on those mountains, too steep and too rough for utilities, sewer or septic. I don’t even see any cell phone towers on those hills, the indians are real particular about keeping it the way it is. SDGE did a study a few years back and they could’t even run a transmission line through that land even if they could get permission due to the terrain, I’m willing to wager it will look the same in 50 years. It is still apples and oranges to compare the two.
ParticipantApples and oranges, De Luz and Morgan hill are two entirely different ways of life, near impossible to compare. The De Luz house is off a dirt road, in an all custom area or unicorporated 5 acre minimum, while frogs leap is within a master planned community with sidewalks on 1/2 acre lots. It’s a choice that is up to you, do you want land? Privacy vs. convenience. De Luz is gorgeous and semi rural, yet close. Morgan is 1/2 mile to stores. The frog leap traact extend to Arietta as well, same builder. Here’s one cheaper and they have sold in the 8’s, the ones higher won’t sell, I see 6’s as reality, 7’s max, nothing more.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/34003-Arietta-92592/home/6571039
Tony Tobin is a top notch school
There are no plans to develop the area South of Morgan, other than a sliver of land, it’s mountains and they are contained in the Pechanga reservation and the Cleveland National Forrest. That alone is not an absolute gurantee of no future development but the terrain and geology is, those mountains cannot be smoothed over like other land, it’s too rocky and too steep, notice how on the map there isn’t a single house on those mountains, too steep and too rough for utilities, sewer or septic. I don’t even see any cell phone towers on those hills, the indians are real particular about keeping it the way it is. SDGE did a study a few years back and they could’t even run a transmission line through that land even if they could get permission due to the terrain, I’m willing to wager it will look the same in 50 years. It is still apples and oranges to compare the two.
ParticipantApples and oranges, De Luz and Morgan hill are two entirely different ways of life, near impossible to compare. The De Luz house is off a dirt road, in an all custom area or unicorporated 5 acre minimum, while frogs leap is within a master planned community with sidewalks on 1/2 acre lots. It’s a choice that is up to you, do you want land? Privacy vs. convenience. De Luz is gorgeous and semi rural, yet close. Morgan is 1/2 mile to stores. The frog leap traact extend to Arietta as well, same builder. Here’s one cheaper and they have sold in the 8’s, the ones higher won’t sell, I see 6’s as reality, 7’s max, nothing more.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/34003-Arietta-92592/home/6571039
Tony Tobin is a top notch school
There are no plans to develop the area South of Morgan, other than a sliver of land, it’s mountains and they are contained in the Pechanga reservation and the Cleveland National Forrest. That alone is not an absolute gurantee of no future development but the terrain and geology is, those mountains cannot be smoothed over like other land, it’s too rocky and too steep, notice how on the map there isn’t a single house on those mountains, too steep and too rough for utilities, sewer or septic. I don’t even see any cell phone towers on those hills, the indians are real particular about keeping it the way it is. SDGE did a study a few years back and they could’t even run a transmission line through that land even if they could get permission due to the terrain, I’m willing to wager it will look the same in 50 years. It is still apples and oranges to compare the two.
Participantralph, Murrieta and Temecula are about a tie, it’s preference and proximity, we are splitting hairs when we compare them. Murrieta is well run, it has less revenue sources than Temecula (car dealers, mall, etc.) but it is fine. As far as safety, it is the safest in the county and in 2007 it was the 44th safest city in the United States, you can leave the body armor at home, despite the anectdotal stories, the stats tell another tale.
Purely from memory, the overall stats are about 19 crimes per thousand per year, in S.D. county, only Ramona and Poway are in that range, with Ramona being slightly better but both are smaller, but for a city of 100k, I know of none locally that compare.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murrieta
It did grow more during the bubble and has more repos, if I wasn’t already established in my hood, I’d look seriously at it. If you commute to the south, the 215 can be frustrating, but it appears to be under construction, however freeway projects seem to take forever no matter where you are. Bear Creek is one of the nicest places anywhere, but expect to pay a hefty premium, it’s the I.E. version of Rancho Santa Fe.
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