[temeculaguy]

Well written Allan, a multi sourced rebuttal, you win since I was keeping score at home.

So when I die, I would like to say right now that i want none of you at my funeral or to remember me in any way shape or form. Based on the thread thus far, there will be arguments about the legitamacy of my 6th grade chess tournament victory, how I treated my 1st girlfriend, whether or not I flossed, if I inhaled and how I came into possession of my first fake I.D., with little to no mention of any of the good things I did with my time on the planet.

Let’s take every story of heroism and try and destroy it with conspiracy theories. Let’s pretend there are never good guys and bad guys, just bad guys.

I know one thing for certain regardless of what brought down the soviets. The people on the fourth plane that somehow mustered the courage to prevent it from being used as a weapon or the people who perished after rushing into the towers before they collapsed. No matter who your god is or what you believe happens to you when you die, if there is an afterlife, they will be seated at the “Big Table” with the “Big Guy or Gal” and we can only hope that we will have the honor of cleaning their dishes. Until that day, I’ll pause once a year to honor them, make promises to them and defend to the death your right as an American to be ungrateful and disrespectful.

[temeculaguy]

Well written Allan, a multi sourced rebuttal, you win since I was keeping score at home.

So when I die, I would like to say right now that i want none of you at my funeral or to remember me in any way shape or form. Based on the thread thus far, there will be arguments about the legitamacy of my 6th grade chess tournament victory, how I treated my 1st girlfriend, whether or not I flossed, if I inhaled and how I came into possession of my first fake I.D., with little to no mention of any of the good things I did with my time on the planet.

Let’s take every story of heroism and try and destroy it with conspiracy theories. Let’s pretend there are never good guys and bad guys, just bad guys.

I know one thing for certain regardless of what brought down the soviets. The people on the fourth plane that somehow mustered the courage to prevent it from being used as a weapon or the people who perished after rushing into the towers before they collapsed. No matter who your god is or what you believe happens to you when you die, if there is an afterlife, they will be seated at the “Big Table” with the “Big Guy or Gal” and we can only hope that we will have the honor of cleaning their dishes. Until that day, I’ll pause once a year to honor them, make promises to them and defend to the death your right as an American to be ungrateful and disrespectful.

[temeculaguy]

Well written Allan, a multi sourced rebuttal, you win since I was keeping score at home.

So when I die, I would like to say right now that i want none of you at my funeral or to remember me in any way shape or form. Based on the thread thus far, there will be arguments about the legitamacy of my 6th grade chess tournament victory, how I treated my 1st girlfriend, whether or not I flossed, if I inhaled and how I came into possession of my first fake I.D., with little to no mention of any of the good things I did with my time on the planet.

Let’s take every story of heroism and try and destroy it with conspiracy theories. Let’s pretend there are never good guys and bad guys, just bad guys.

I know one thing for certain regardless of what brought down the soviets. The people on the fourth plane that somehow mustered the courage to prevent it from being used as a weapon or the people who perished after rushing into the towers before they collapsed. No matter who your god is or what you believe happens to you when you die, if there is an afterlife, they will be seated at the “Big Table” with the “Big Guy or Gal” and we can only hope that we will have the honor of cleaning their dishes. Until that day, I’ll pause once a year to honor them, make promises to them and defend to the death your right as an American to be ungrateful and disrespectful.

[temeculaguy]

Well written Allan, a multi sourced rebuttal, you win since I was keeping score at home.

So when I die, I would like to say right now that i want none of you at my funeral or to remember me in any way shape or form. Based on the thread thus far, there will be arguments about the legitamacy of my 6th grade chess tournament victory, how I treated my 1st girlfriend, whether or not I flossed, if I inhaled and how I came into possession of my first fake I.D., with little to no mention of any of the good things I did with my time on the planet.

Let’s take every story of heroism and try and destroy it with conspiracy theories. Let’s pretend there are never good guys and bad guys, just bad guys.

I know one thing for certain regardless of what brought down the soviets. The people on the fourth plane that somehow mustered the courage to prevent it from being used as a weapon or the people who perished after rushing into the towers before they collapsed. No matter who your god is or what you believe happens to you when you die, if there is an afterlife, they will be seated at the “Big Table” with the “Big Guy or Gal” and we can only hope that we will have the honor of cleaning their dishes. Until that day, I’ll pause once a year to honor them, make promises to them and defend to the death your right as an American to be ungrateful and disrespectful.

[temeculaguy]

matt, I lived here and in a half finished tract in the early 90’s, no problems with the builder since they stayed in business and honored their warranty but and with no HOA, there was no financial burden. You dirtbikers did get a little irritating since you seem to love those stair stepped graded pads that go up hills. Last time around Temeku actually didn’t start, just built the golf course, graded and stopped so nobody got abandonded. There were plenty of walk aways but so far in this bust this is the first I’ve seen. Do you know of another builder walking away from a partially built tract that is partially occupied in this bust so far? I stay to the south so I don’t monitor what happens in the other parts of the valley.

[temeculaguy]

matt, I lived here and in a half finished tract in the early 90’s, no problems with the builder since they stayed in business and honored their warranty but and with no HOA, there was no financial burden. You dirtbikers did get a little irritating since you seem to love those stair stepped graded pads that go up hills. Last time around Temeku actually didn’t start, just built the golf course, graded and stopped so nobody got abandonded. There were plenty of walk aways but so far in this bust this is the first I’ve seen. Do you know of another builder walking away from a partially built tract that is partially occupied in this bust so far? I stay to the south so I don’t monitor what happens in the other parts of the valley.

[temeculaguy]

matt, I lived here and in a half finished tract in the early 90’s, no problems with the builder since they stayed in business and honored their warranty but and with no HOA, there was no financial burden. You dirtbikers did get a little irritating since you seem to love those stair stepped graded pads that go up hills. Last time around Temeku actually didn’t start, just built the golf course, graded and stopped so nobody got abandonded. There were plenty of walk aways but so far in this bust this is the first I’ve seen. Do you know of another builder walking away from a partially built tract that is partially occupied in this bust so far? I stay to the south so I don’t monitor what happens in the other parts of the valley.

[temeculaguy]

matt, I lived here and in a half finished tract in the early 90’s, no problems with the builder since they stayed in business and honored their warranty but and with no HOA, there was no financial burden. You dirtbikers did get a little irritating since you seem to love those stair stepped graded pads that go up hills. Last time around Temeku actually didn’t start, just built the golf course, graded and stopped so nobody got abandonded. There were plenty of walk aways but so far in this bust this is the first I’ve seen. Do you know of another builder walking away from a partially built tract that is partially occupied in this bust so far? I stay to the south so I don’t monitor what happens in the other parts of the valley.

[temeculaguy]

matt, I lived here and in a half finished tract in the early 90’s, no problems with the builder since they stayed in business and honored their warranty but and with no HOA, there was no financial burden. You dirtbikers did get a little irritating since you seem to love those stair stepped graded pads that go up hills. Last time around Temeku actually didn’t start, just built the golf course, graded and stopped so nobody got abandonded. There were plenty of walk aways but so far in this bust this is the first I’ve seen. Do you know of another builder walking away from a partially built tract that is partially occupied in this bust so far? I stay to the south so I don’t monitor what happens in the other parts of the valley.

[temeculaguy]

paramount, Stratford’s largest problem in my view isn’t the High school (but that is a considerable one) it is that it adjacent to the indian reservation. It’s also the part that has few houses and is used for off road vehicles, of which you have no ability to complain about since noise ordinances do not apply there. There is also no zoning protection, the can put anything behind your house (power plant, sewage tratment, you name it, you can’t complain). They are becoming better neighbors and that fear is vanishing as the years roll on but it still bugs me. You are right, hemmingway is still clinging to 400k to their dying breath with only one model and three standing inventory left as of yesterday. I’m sure there are 4 suckers left out there who don’t mind living next to a weed farm.

You are spot on in your analysis of the other tracts. I might add that mid 200’s for shorts and repos are popping for 2500 sq on the completed side of wolf and 310k will get you 3100 sq and a 3 car non tandem so the builders are still overpriced but closer. Redwood had a 6br short list for 375k today on fireside, that tract has mid 3’s written all over it. Laurel will soon run out of buyers as the financing rules change oct 1st and it is more entry level than redwood, look to be tempted in the mid 2’s by christmas (it does have the best location, along with redwood, furthest from the casino). I think stan pac stays with it and just goes cheaper but they have a long way to go to build out. They bought the land much earlier and cheaper as the primary builder, the sub builders (lennar, woodside) will begin tent folding operations first and probably before the year is out. I still hate the 3k a year mello roos for wolf, but tempting it is now that 100 a square is becoming the norm for repos and shorts.

The most overpriced builder left is Mcmillan at Morgan, still 100k over repos within their tract, my money is on them to fold tents next.

[temeculaguy]

paramount, Stratford’s largest problem in my view isn’t the High school (but that is a considerable one) it is that it adjacent to the indian reservation. It’s also the part that has few houses and is used for off road vehicles, of which you have no ability to complain about since noise ordinances do not apply there. There is also no zoning protection, the can put anything behind your house (power plant, sewage tratment, you name it, you can’t complain). They are becoming better neighbors and that fear is vanishing as the years roll on but it still bugs me. You are right, hemmingway is still clinging to 400k to their dying breath with only one model and three standing inventory left as of yesterday. I’m sure there are 4 suckers left out there who don’t mind living next to a weed farm.

You are spot on in your analysis of the other tracts. I might add that mid 200’s for shorts and repos are popping for 2500 sq on the completed side of wolf and 310k will get you 3100 sq and a 3 car non tandem so the builders are still overpriced but closer. Redwood had a 6br short list for 375k today on fireside, that tract has mid 3’s written all over it. Laurel will soon run out of buyers as the financing rules change oct 1st and it is more entry level than redwood, look to be tempted in the mid 2’s by christmas (it does have the best location, along with redwood, furthest from the casino). I think stan pac stays with it and just goes cheaper but they have a long way to go to build out. They bought the land much earlier and cheaper as the primary builder, the sub builders (lennar, woodside) will begin tent folding operations first and probably before the year is out. I still hate the 3k a year mello roos for wolf, but tempting it is now that 100 a square is becoming the norm for repos and shorts.

The most overpriced builder left is Mcmillan at Morgan, still 100k over repos within their tract, my money is on them to fold tents next.

[temeculaguy]

paramount, Stratford’s largest problem in my view isn’t the High school (but that is a considerable one) it is that it adjacent to the indian reservation. It’s also the part that has few houses and is used for off road vehicles, of which you have no ability to complain about since noise ordinances do not apply there. There is also no zoning protection, the can put anything behind your house (power plant, sewage tratment, you name it, you can’t complain). They are becoming better neighbors and that fear is vanishing as the years roll on but it still bugs me. You are right, hemmingway is still clinging to 400k to their dying breath with only one model and three standing inventory left as of yesterday. I’m sure there are 4 suckers left out there who don’t mind living next to a weed farm.

You are spot on in your analysis of the other tracts. I might add that mid 200’s for shorts and repos are popping for 2500 sq on the completed side of wolf and 310k will get you 3100 sq and a 3 car non tandem so the builders are still overpriced but closer. Redwood had a 6br short list for 375k today on fireside, that tract has mid 3’s written all over it. Laurel will soon run out of buyers as the financing rules change oct 1st and it is more entry level than redwood, look to be tempted in the mid 2’s by christmas (it does have the best location, along with redwood, furthest from the casino). I think stan pac stays with it and just goes cheaper but they have a long way to go to build out. They bought the land much earlier and cheaper as the primary builder, the sub builders (lennar, woodside) will begin tent folding operations first and probably before the year is out. I still hate the 3k a year mello roos for wolf, but tempting it is now that 100 a square is becoming the norm for repos and shorts.

The most overpriced builder left is Mcmillan at Morgan, still 100k over repos within their tract, my money is on them to fold tents next.

[temeculaguy]

paramount, Stratford’s largest problem in my view isn’t the High school (but that is a considerable one) it is that it adjacent to the indian reservation. It’s also the part that has few houses and is used for off road vehicles, of which you have no ability to complain about since noise ordinances do not apply there. There is also no zoning protection, the can put anything behind your house (power plant, sewage tratment, you name it, you can’t complain). They are becoming better neighbors and that fear is vanishing as the years roll on but it still bugs me. You are right, hemmingway is still clinging to 400k to their dying breath with only one model and three standing inventory left as of yesterday. I’m sure there are 4 suckers left out there who don’t mind living next to a weed farm.

You are spot on in your analysis of the other tracts. I might add that mid 200’s for shorts and repos are popping for 2500 sq on the completed side of wolf and 310k will get you 3100 sq and a 3 car non tandem so the builders are still overpriced but closer. Redwood had a 6br short list for 375k today on fireside, that tract has mid 3’s written all over it. Laurel will soon run out of buyers as the financing rules change oct 1st and it is more entry level than redwood, look to be tempted in the mid 2’s by christmas (it does have the best location, along with redwood, furthest from the casino). I think stan pac stays with it and just goes cheaper but they have a long way to go to build out. They bought the land much earlier and cheaper as the primary builder, the sub builders (lennar, woodside) will begin tent folding operations first and probably before the year is out. I still hate the 3k a year mello roos for wolf, but tempting it is now that 100 a square is becoming the norm for repos and shorts.

The most overpriced builder left is Mcmillan at Morgan, still 100k over repos within their tract, my money is on them to fold tents next.

[temeculaguy]

paramount, Stratford’s largest problem in my view isn’t the High school (but that is a considerable one) it is that it adjacent to the indian reservation. It’s also the part that has few houses and is used for off road vehicles, of which you have no ability to complain about since noise ordinances do not apply there. There is also no zoning protection, the can put anything behind your house (power plant, sewage tratment, you name it, you can’t complain). They are becoming better neighbors and that fear is vanishing as the years roll on but it still bugs me. You are right, hemmingway is still clinging to 400k to their dying breath with only one model and three standing inventory left as of yesterday. I’m sure there are 4 suckers left out there who don’t mind living next to a weed farm.

You are spot on in your analysis of the other tracts. I might add that mid 200’s for shorts and repos are popping for 2500 sq on the completed side of wolf and 310k will get you 3100 sq and a 3 car non tandem so the builders are still overpriced but closer. Redwood had a 6br short list for 375k today on fireside, that tract has mid 3’s written all over it. Laurel will soon run out of buyers as the financing rules change oct 1st and it is more entry level than redwood, look to be tempted in the mid 2’s by christmas (it does have the best location, along with redwood, furthest from the casino). I think stan pac stays with it and just goes cheaper but they have a long way to go to build out. They bought the land much earlier and cheaper as the primary builder, the sub builders (lennar, woodside) will begin tent folding operations first and probably before the year is out. I still hate the 3k a year mello roos for wolf, but tempting it is now that 100 a square is becoming the norm for repos and shorts.

The most overpriced builder left is Mcmillan at Morgan, still 100k over repos within their tract, my money is on them to fold tents next.

[temeculaguy]

I will not forget, not tomorrow or probably not ever. This morning I heard the version of “hero” on the radio with the soundbites mixed in of people on the street and politicians and I had to dry the tears from eyes. It’s been seven years and I still cry when I think too hard about it. I’m still mad and sad and in the immortal words of the 1980 Olympic Hockey coach, Herb Brooks,”You’ll take it to your f*&^ing grave.”

I don’t want to engage in a political or idealogical debate, that crap completely misses the point. There is a little more than an hour left on this anniversary, leave the demopulican garbage for another day and allow the rest of us to honor our fallen heroes for just this one day each year, please.

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