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temeculaguy
Participantthanks carlsbad, I never posted a pic and I guess I goofed it up. I have bunch more but I posted that one depicting the monitor displaying piggington, like kidnappers hold up today’s newspaper.
temeculaguy
Participantthanks carlsbad, I never posted a pic and I guess I goofed it up. I have bunch more but I posted that one depicting the monitor displaying piggington, like kidnappers hold up today’s newspaper.
temeculaguy
Participantthanks carlsbad, I never posted a pic and I guess I goofed it up. I have bunch more but I posted that one depicting the monitor displaying piggington, like kidnappers hold up today’s newspaper.
temeculaguy
ParticipantLooks like the pain train just pulled into Vista, right on schedule.
temeculaguy
ParticipantLooks like the pain train just pulled into Vista, right on schedule.
temeculaguy
ParticipantLooks like the pain train just pulled into Vista, right on schedule.
temeculaguy
ParticipantLooks like the pain train just pulled into Vista, right on schedule.
temeculaguy
ParticipantLooks like the pain train just pulled into Vista, right on schedule.
December 22, 2008 at 8:24 PM in reply to: How much cheaper should the own vs. rent be, in order to buy? #319142temeculaguy
ParticipantI think the tax benefit is being underplayed here. Rent nuetral is a good time to buy because it is a sound fundamental and it also means others can buy because they are successfully renting. I use a formula that doesn’t factor in the downpayment, it is more simple to figure out even though you are likely to put money down, it takes out the variable of how much (5%, 10%, 20%, 25% 50%, or cash).
When rent equals the P&I of the purchase price, then I rate it as a “buy.” This formula also gives more power to interest rates, since you factor everything at 0 down (but dont factor PMI, since you will be making a down)
You can wash out the taxes, insurance, hoa, mello roos, maintenance, etc. with the tax deduction, so just use the P&I as the solid number vs. the rent. Whatever you put down will reduce it but those dollars cost you the loss of interest in other investments so that ends up being a personal decision based on your situation and portfolio.
Since you pay 2500 for rent. 450k at 5.5% P&I is $2555, if you were to pay 450k for a house that rents for 2500 (I know you still have to overcome the fair rent since you are moving areas and housing size/style) is where you should buy it. If you were to find a 2500 rental for 450k and you have been successfully paying the 2500 rent you will be paying a fair price as well as setting yourself up for success. Some people pay $1500 rent and then try to tackle a $3k mortgage, they are setting themself up for failure, while others pay $2500 rent and are waiting for the same house to be 300k, it may get there but it will make sense to the other guy before it gets there.
This doesn’t mean it will bottom when it hits rent nuetral, markets have a way of overcorrecting, but it gives you an idea of once it’s crossed sea level and you are in the overcorrection water, nobody can guess how far it will overcorrect. But that is the fun part, thats the gamble.
December 22, 2008 at 8:24 PM in reply to: How much cheaper should the own vs. rent be, in order to buy? #319494temeculaguy
ParticipantI think the tax benefit is being underplayed here. Rent nuetral is a good time to buy because it is a sound fundamental and it also means others can buy because they are successfully renting. I use a formula that doesn’t factor in the downpayment, it is more simple to figure out even though you are likely to put money down, it takes out the variable of how much (5%, 10%, 20%, 25% 50%, or cash).
When rent equals the P&I of the purchase price, then I rate it as a “buy.” This formula also gives more power to interest rates, since you factor everything at 0 down (but dont factor PMI, since you will be making a down)
You can wash out the taxes, insurance, hoa, mello roos, maintenance, etc. with the tax deduction, so just use the P&I as the solid number vs. the rent. Whatever you put down will reduce it but those dollars cost you the loss of interest in other investments so that ends up being a personal decision based on your situation and portfolio.
Since you pay 2500 for rent. 450k at 5.5% P&I is $2555, if you were to pay 450k for a house that rents for 2500 (I know you still have to overcome the fair rent since you are moving areas and housing size/style) is where you should buy it. If you were to find a 2500 rental for 450k and you have been successfully paying the 2500 rent you will be paying a fair price as well as setting yourself up for success. Some people pay $1500 rent and then try to tackle a $3k mortgage, they are setting themself up for failure, while others pay $2500 rent and are waiting for the same house to be 300k, it may get there but it will make sense to the other guy before it gets there.
This doesn’t mean it will bottom when it hits rent nuetral, markets have a way of overcorrecting, but it gives you an idea of once it’s crossed sea level and you are in the overcorrection water, nobody can guess how far it will overcorrect. But that is the fun part, thats the gamble.
December 22, 2008 at 8:24 PM in reply to: How much cheaper should the own vs. rent be, in order to buy? #319543temeculaguy
ParticipantI think the tax benefit is being underplayed here. Rent nuetral is a good time to buy because it is a sound fundamental and it also means others can buy because they are successfully renting. I use a formula that doesn’t factor in the downpayment, it is more simple to figure out even though you are likely to put money down, it takes out the variable of how much (5%, 10%, 20%, 25% 50%, or cash).
When rent equals the P&I of the purchase price, then I rate it as a “buy.” This formula also gives more power to interest rates, since you factor everything at 0 down (but dont factor PMI, since you will be making a down)
You can wash out the taxes, insurance, hoa, mello roos, maintenance, etc. with the tax deduction, so just use the P&I as the solid number vs. the rent. Whatever you put down will reduce it but those dollars cost you the loss of interest in other investments so that ends up being a personal decision based on your situation and portfolio.
Since you pay 2500 for rent. 450k at 5.5% P&I is $2555, if you were to pay 450k for a house that rents for 2500 (I know you still have to overcome the fair rent since you are moving areas and housing size/style) is where you should buy it. If you were to find a 2500 rental for 450k and you have been successfully paying the 2500 rent you will be paying a fair price as well as setting yourself up for success. Some people pay $1500 rent and then try to tackle a $3k mortgage, they are setting themself up for failure, while others pay $2500 rent and are waiting for the same house to be 300k, it may get there but it will make sense to the other guy before it gets there.
This doesn’t mean it will bottom when it hits rent nuetral, markets have a way of overcorrecting, but it gives you an idea of once it’s crossed sea level and you are in the overcorrection water, nobody can guess how far it will overcorrect. But that is the fun part, thats the gamble.
December 22, 2008 at 8:24 PM in reply to: How much cheaper should the own vs. rent be, in order to buy? #319562temeculaguy
ParticipantI think the tax benefit is being underplayed here. Rent nuetral is a good time to buy because it is a sound fundamental and it also means others can buy because they are successfully renting. I use a formula that doesn’t factor in the downpayment, it is more simple to figure out even though you are likely to put money down, it takes out the variable of how much (5%, 10%, 20%, 25% 50%, or cash).
When rent equals the P&I of the purchase price, then I rate it as a “buy.” This formula also gives more power to interest rates, since you factor everything at 0 down (but dont factor PMI, since you will be making a down)
You can wash out the taxes, insurance, hoa, mello roos, maintenance, etc. with the tax deduction, so just use the P&I as the solid number vs. the rent. Whatever you put down will reduce it but those dollars cost you the loss of interest in other investments so that ends up being a personal decision based on your situation and portfolio.
Since you pay 2500 for rent. 450k at 5.5% P&I is $2555, if you were to pay 450k for a house that rents for 2500 (I know you still have to overcome the fair rent since you are moving areas and housing size/style) is where you should buy it. If you were to find a 2500 rental for 450k and you have been successfully paying the 2500 rent you will be paying a fair price as well as setting yourself up for success. Some people pay $1500 rent and then try to tackle a $3k mortgage, they are setting themself up for failure, while others pay $2500 rent and are waiting for the same house to be 300k, it may get there but it will make sense to the other guy before it gets there.
This doesn’t mean it will bottom when it hits rent nuetral, markets have a way of overcorrecting, but it gives you an idea of once it’s crossed sea level and you are in the overcorrection water, nobody can guess how far it will overcorrect. But that is the fun part, thats the gamble.
December 22, 2008 at 8:24 PM in reply to: How much cheaper should the own vs. rent be, in order to buy? #319645temeculaguy
ParticipantI think the tax benefit is being underplayed here. Rent nuetral is a good time to buy because it is a sound fundamental and it also means others can buy because they are successfully renting. I use a formula that doesn’t factor in the downpayment, it is more simple to figure out even though you are likely to put money down, it takes out the variable of how much (5%, 10%, 20%, 25% 50%, or cash).
When rent equals the P&I of the purchase price, then I rate it as a “buy.” This formula also gives more power to interest rates, since you factor everything at 0 down (but dont factor PMI, since you will be making a down)
You can wash out the taxes, insurance, hoa, mello roos, maintenance, etc. with the tax deduction, so just use the P&I as the solid number vs. the rent. Whatever you put down will reduce it but those dollars cost you the loss of interest in other investments so that ends up being a personal decision based on your situation and portfolio.
Since you pay 2500 for rent. 450k at 5.5% P&I is $2555, if you were to pay 450k for a house that rents for 2500 (I know you still have to overcome the fair rent since you are moving areas and housing size/style) is where you should buy it. If you were to find a 2500 rental for 450k and you have been successfully paying the 2500 rent you will be paying a fair price as well as setting yourself up for success. Some people pay $1500 rent and then try to tackle a $3k mortgage, they are setting themself up for failure, while others pay $2500 rent and are waiting for the same house to be 300k, it may get there but it will make sense to the other guy before it gets there.
This doesn’t mean it will bottom when it hits rent nuetral, markets have a way of overcorrecting, but it gives you an idea of once it’s crossed sea level and you are in the overcorrection water, nobody can guess how far it will overcorrect. But that is the fun part, thats the gamble.
temeculaguy
ParticipantThe pic above is the view from my desk, you can kinda see piggington on the monitor.
sdrealtor, I didn’t call, my loss, I’ll just have to drink yours when I see you. I was so busy this week, it rained both the days I chose to rent a truck and everything took more time than expected. Whoever invented the “upstairs laundryroom” was both a genius and a lunatic. I didn’t hire movers or painters, did it all myself. Halfway up the stairs with the washing machine, my 20 year old mind was reminded that my body is over 40.
About my vocation, I am Batman, hence the secrecy.
paramount, there’s no need for your BS alarm to go off, everything was legit. I wasn’t friends with or related to the listing agent, it was a combination of luck, timing and planning. Not only have I heard of banks taking the first offer over list, they do so more often than not. Banks aren’t emotional, they don’t sit around and wait weeks for the highest offer (this applies to bank owned, not short sales). They listed my place for a little under 270k, I offered 270k and had my loan approval/proof of funds ready to go, it is all about speed. They answered within 24 hours and in that time only two other offers came in which were below list. The interest rate was high those two days, the weather was bad and it was a Monday. By the time people got around to looking at it a few days later, they had already accepted my offer. I can also verify my residency, TemekuT has already stopped by. When I throw the first party, I’ll have my deed on display.
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