[temeculaguy]

The good people of Detroit did not lose their minds because of unemployment, they did so because someone said the magic word “FREE.” Even during record employment, hysteria breaks out when you use tht word. How many times have you been in a line at a store the day after thanksgiving during record employemt years because they were going to sell a cretain amount of a certain thing for a ridiculously low price.

Large uprisings (not scirmishes or protests) break out mostly for just a few reasons, unemployment isn’t one of them. The most common are when basic food and medicine needs cannot be met (we are past the days of famine, and pandemics cause people to avoid crowds), racism, when someone uses the words “free” and of course….soccer in any country other than the united states.

[temeculaguy]

The good people of Detroit did not lose their minds because of unemployment, they did so because someone said the magic word “FREE.” Even during record employment, hysteria breaks out when you use tht word. How many times have you been in a line at a store the day after thanksgiving during record employemt years because they were going to sell a cretain amount of a certain thing for a ridiculously low price.

Large uprisings (not scirmishes or protests) break out mostly for just a few reasons, unemployment isn’t one of them. The most common are when basic food and medicine needs cannot be met (we are past the days of famine, and pandemics cause people to avoid crowds), racism, when someone uses the words “free” and of course….soccer in any country other than the united states.

[temeculaguy]

The good people of Detroit did not lose their minds because of unemployment, they did so because someone said the magic word “FREE.” Even during record employment, hysteria breaks out when you use tht word. How many times have you been in a line at a store the day after thanksgiving during record employemt years because they were going to sell a cretain amount of a certain thing for a ridiculously low price.

Large uprisings (not scirmishes or protests) break out mostly for just a few reasons, unemployment isn’t one of them. The most common are when basic food and medicine needs cannot be met (we are past the days of famine, and pandemics cause people to avoid crowds), racism, when someone uses the words “free” and of course….soccer in any country other than the united states.

[temeculaguy]

The good people of Detroit did not lose their minds because of unemployment, they did so because someone said the magic word “FREE.” Even during record employment, hysteria breaks out when you use tht word. How many times have you been in a line at a store the day after thanksgiving during record employemt years because they were going to sell a cretain amount of a certain thing for a ridiculously low price.

Large uprisings (not scirmishes or protests) break out mostly for just a few reasons, unemployment isn’t one of them. The most common are when basic food and medicine needs cannot be met (we are past the days of famine, and pandemics cause people to avoid crowds), racism, when someone uses the words “free” and of course….soccer in any country other than the united states.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]Along these lines….many people wrongly buy into the idea that recessions cause crime. But your cited facts belie that conclusion, as crime rates are thankfully falling most everywhere. The national crime rate was unusually low during the Great Depression of the 1930s.[/quote]

This intrigues me…why do crime rates fall during recessions/depressions? It does seem counter-intuitive.[/quote]

svelte, I dont think Econ was asserting that recessions/depressions cause crime to fall, just that they do not cause it to rise, which people tend to believe. It is logical, just not factual. The last ten years of falling crime rates can mostly be attributed to technology. There’s just no money in mugging people, few people carry cash, it’s a lot easier to get their money madoff style, or in less violent ways (identity theft/fraud). bankers are the new gang members. Forensics, DNA, video cameras, computers, cell phones, alarms, gps tracking devices and other technological advances gets most of the credit for the falling crime rates this decade.

paramount, here is the press release from the sheriff

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/09282-sws.htm

a couple of things to focus on, the victim didn’t report the crime or call 911, the hospital reported it because they have to. They quickly got his name and phone number, contacted him and he agreed to surrender. DNA doesn’t work that fast so the victim probably knew him, may have been related to him, etc. But he wasn’t sitting in the park waiting to stab the next guy walking his dog.

I ran him on the public court website,

http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenAccess/

Four entries, but three were sealed (probably because he was a minor), the only visible one was a domestic violence restraining order, kinda rare for an 18 year old. My guess is that this had a domestic angle to it and was not random. There really isn’t a place you can move to in order to avoid brothers fighting, husbands killing wives for insurance money or jealousy, families turning their living rooms into hockey games, this happens everywhere and doesn’t endanger you.

But if you are afraid to venture out at night, then it is real to you, it is affecting your quality of life. I suggest land, places on 5 acres or more, dog and shotgun country, russel’s type hood, those places have a lot less things going on and when it does happen, it’s too far away to hear.

I’m still going to go out at night, I’m an odds guy, I’m not going sit at home because there is a 0.00153 percent chance that in a given year I will be the victim of a violent crime. Over the course of the next 40 years that I’ll probably be on the planet, there is a 0.0612 chance that I will be a victim of a violent crime. I don’t know how to calculate the odds of my being involved in a threesome with Beyonce and Christina Hendricks so I don’t modify my life because of that possiblity either, unfortunately.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]Along these lines….many people wrongly buy into the idea that recessions cause crime. But your cited facts belie that conclusion, as crime rates are thankfully falling most everywhere. The national crime rate was unusually low during the Great Depression of the 1930s.[/quote]

This intrigues me…why do crime rates fall during recessions/depressions? It does seem counter-intuitive.[/quote]

svelte, I dont think Econ was asserting that recessions/depressions cause crime to fall, just that they do not cause it to rise, which people tend to believe. It is logical, just not factual. The last ten years of falling crime rates can mostly be attributed to technology. There’s just no money in mugging people, few people carry cash, it’s a lot easier to get their money madoff style, or in less violent ways (identity theft/fraud). bankers are the new gang members. Forensics, DNA, video cameras, computers, cell phones, alarms, gps tracking devices and other technological advances gets most of the credit for the falling crime rates this decade.

paramount, here is the press release from the sheriff

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/09282-sws.htm

a couple of things to focus on, the victim didn’t report the crime or call 911, the hospital reported it because they have to. They quickly got his name and phone number, contacted him and he agreed to surrender. DNA doesn’t work that fast so the victim probably knew him, may have been related to him, etc. But he wasn’t sitting in the park waiting to stab the next guy walking his dog.

I ran him on the public court website,

http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenAccess/

Four entries, but three were sealed (probably because he was a minor), the only visible one was a domestic violence restraining order, kinda rare for an 18 year old. My guess is that this had a domestic angle to it and was not random. There really isn’t a place you can move to in order to avoid brothers fighting, husbands killing wives for insurance money or jealousy, families turning their living rooms into hockey games, this happens everywhere and doesn’t endanger you.

But if you are afraid to venture out at night, then it is real to you, it is affecting your quality of life. I suggest land, places on 5 acres or more, dog and shotgun country, russel’s type hood, those places have a lot less things going on and when it does happen, it’s too far away to hear.

I’m still going to go out at night, I’m an odds guy, I’m not going sit at home because there is a 0.00153 percent chance that in a given year I will be the victim of a violent crime. Over the course of the next 40 years that I’ll probably be on the planet, there is a 0.0612 chance that I will be a victim of a violent crime. I don’t know how to calculate the odds of my being involved in a threesome with Beyonce and Christina Hendricks so I don’t modify my life because of that possiblity either, unfortunately.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]Along these lines….many people wrongly buy into the idea that recessions cause crime. But your cited facts belie that conclusion, as crime rates are thankfully falling most everywhere. The national crime rate was unusually low during the Great Depression of the 1930s.[/quote]

This intrigues me…why do crime rates fall during recessions/depressions? It does seem counter-intuitive.[/quote]

svelte, I dont think Econ was asserting that recessions/depressions cause crime to fall, just that they do not cause it to rise, which people tend to believe. It is logical, just not factual. The last ten years of falling crime rates can mostly be attributed to technology. There’s just no money in mugging people, few people carry cash, it’s a lot easier to get their money madoff style, or in less violent ways (identity theft/fraud). bankers are the new gang members. Forensics, DNA, video cameras, computers, cell phones, alarms, gps tracking devices and other technological advances gets most of the credit for the falling crime rates this decade.

paramount, here is the press release from the sheriff

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/09282-sws.htm

a couple of things to focus on, the victim didn’t report the crime or call 911, the hospital reported it because they have to. They quickly got his name and phone number, contacted him and he agreed to surrender. DNA doesn’t work that fast so the victim probably knew him, may have been related to him, etc. But he wasn’t sitting in the park waiting to stab the next guy walking his dog.

I ran him on the public court website,

http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenAccess/

Four entries, but three were sealed (probably because he was a minor), the only visible one was a domestic violence restraining order, kinda rare for an 18 year old. My guess is that this had a domestic angle to it and was not random. There really isn’t a place you can move to in order to avoid brothers fighting, husbands killing wives for insurance money or jealousy, families turning their living rooms into hockey games, this happens everywhere and doesn’t endanger you.

But if you are afraid to venture out at night, then it is real to you, it is affecting your quality of life. I suggest land, places on 5 acres or more, dog and shotgun country, russel’s type hood, those places have a lot less things going on and when it does happen, it’s too far away to hear.

I’m still going to go out at night, I’m an odds guy, I’m not going sit at home because there is a 0.00153 percent chance that in a given year I will be the victim of a violent crime. Over the course of the next 40 years that I’ll probably be on the planet, there is a 0.0612 chance that I will be a victim of a violent crime. I don’t know how to calculate the odds of my being involved in a threesome with Beyonce and Christina Hendricks so I don’t modify my life because of that possiblity either, unfortunately.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]Along these lines….many people wrongly buy into the idea that recessions cause crime. But your cited facts belie that conclusion, as crime rates are thankfully falling most everywhere. The national crime rate was unusually low during the Great Depression of the 1930s.[/quote]

This intrigues me…why do crime rates fall during recessions/depressions? It does seem counter-intuitive.[/quote]

svelte, I dont think Econ was asserting that recessions/depressions cause crime to fall, just that they do not cause it to rise, which people tend to believe. It is logical, just not factual. The last ten years of falling crime rates can mostly be attributed to technology. There’s just no money in mugging people, few people carry cash, it’s a lot easier to get their money madoff style, or in less violent ways (identity theft/fraud). bankers are the new gang members. Forensics, DNA, video cameras, computers, cell phones, alarms, gps tracking devices and other technological advances gets most of the credit for the falling crime rates this decade.

paramount, here is the press release from the sheriff

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/09282-sws.htm

a couple of things to focus on, the victim didn’t report the crime or call 911, the hospital reported it because they have to. They quickly got his name and phone number, contacted him and he agreed to surrender. DNA doesn’t work that fast so the victim probably knew him, may have been related to him, etc. But he wasn’t sitting in the park waiting to stab the next guy walking his dog.

I ran him on the public court website,

http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenAccess/

Four entries, but three were sealed (probably because he was a minor), the only visible one was a domestic violence restraining order, kinda rare for an 18 year old. My guess is that this had a domestic angle to it and was not random. There really isn’t a place you can move to in order to avoid brothers fighting, husbands killing wives for insurance money or jealousy, families turning their living rooms into hockey games, this happens everywhere and doesn’t endanger you.

But if you are afraid to venture out at night, then it is real to you, it is affecting your quality of life. I suggest land, places on 5 acres or more, dog and shotgun country, russel’s type hood, those places have a lot less things going on and when it does happen, it’s too far away to hear.

I’m still going to go out at night, I’m an odds guy, I’m not going sit at home because there is a 0.00153 percent chance that in a given year I will be the victim of a violent crime. Over the course of the next 40 years that I’ll probably be on the planet, there is a 0.0612 chance that I will be a victim of a violent crime. I don’t know how to calculate the odds of my being involved in a threesome with Beyonce and Christina Hendricks so I don’t modify my life because of that possiblity either, unfortunately.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]Along these lines….many people wrongly buy into the idea that recessions cause crime. But your cited facts belie that conclusion, as crime rates are thankfully falling most everywhere. The national crime rate was unusually low during the Great Depression of the 1930s.[/quote]

This intrigues me…why do crime rates fall during recessions/depressions? It does seem counter-intuitive.[/quote]

svelte, I dont think Econ was asserting that recessions/depressions cause crime to fall, just that they do not cause it to rise, which people tend to believe. It is logical, just not factual. The last ten years of falling crime rates can mostly be attributed to technology. There’s just no money in mugging people, few people carry cash, it’s a lot easier to get their money madoff style, or in less violent ways (identity theft/fraud). bankers are the new gang members. Forensics, DNA, video cameras, computers, cell phones, alarms, gps tracking devices and other technological advances gets most of the credit for the falling crime rates this decade.

paramount, here is the press release from the sheriff

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/09282-sws.htm

a couple of things to focus on, the victim didn’t report the crime or call 911, the hospital reported it because they have to. They quickly got his name and phone number, contacted him and he agreed to surrender. DNA doesn’t work that fast so the victim probably knew him, may have been related to him, etc. But he wasn’t sitting in the park waiting to stab the next guy walking his dog.

I ran him on the public court website,

http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenAccess/

Four entries, but three were sealed (probably because he was a minor), the only visible one was a domestic violence restraining order, kinda rare for an 18 year old. My guess is that this had a domestic angle to it and was not random. There really isn’t a place you can move to in order to avoid brothers fighting, husbands killing wives for insurance money or jealousy, families turning their living rooms into hockey games, this happens everywhere and doesn’t endanger you.

But if you are afraid to venture out at night, then it is real to you, it is affecting your quality of life. I suggest land, places on 5 acres or more, dog and shotgun country, russel’s type hood, those places have a lot less things going on and when it does happen, it’s too far away to hear.

I’m still going to go out at night, I’m an odds guy, I’m not going sit at home because there is a 0.00153 percent chance that in a given year I will be the victim of a violent crime. Over the course of the next 40 years that I’ll probably be on the planet, there is a 0.0612 chance that I will be a victim of a violent crime. I don’t know how to calculate the odds of my being involved in a threesome with Beyonce and Christina Hendricks so I don’t modify my life because of that possiblity either, unfortunately.

[temeculaguy]

I think it has come to the point that it is affecting your ability to be happy, so find somewhere that makes you happy. We’ve danced this dance so many times. In that case you referenced, the victim walked away (actualy the newspaper reported he walked to inland valley hospital which I find hard to believe), the suspect was known by name to the victim and was arrested and that’s all that is being reported, so you, the random stranger were in no danger. But you’ve posted about bar fights ten miles away and I’ve always said don’t go to biker bars at 1 am and you’ll be fine.

But go the fbi crime stats and find a place that has less crime. There are some, if it makes you feel safer, then it will be worth it to you.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html

pick one of the two links at the bottom, where it says FAQ and how many crimes happened in my town and the other one, how many police are employed in my town. You are going to find that it is mostly your perception, or you just notice things more. Reality is, crime is down by crimes per population in temec and in most so cal towns, we are at 1950’s levels for cities of 100k+.

2008, temec had 151 violent crimes and 2432 property crimes, total 2583, and they had it at 98,663 pop. puts it a 25.9 crimes per thousand people. (in 2006 the total was 3097 and 2007 it was 3255) So as the crime rate falls, you think it rises becuse you pay more attention. In 1993 the crime rate 53.4 and it is now less than half that, but then again there are 4 times as many cops, more cops per person than any town is sd county (except it’s tied with carlsbad), So looking at the data, it’s completely your perception, it’s the availability of the internet to inform you of things you never used to know about.

carlsbad had 227 and 2258, total of 2485 on 97,670, almost the exact same rate.

esco had 567 and 4182, total of 4749 with 136,508 pop, 34 crimes per thousand people

del mar is actually horrible at 40 per thousand, but you add tourists, it screws up you rate because they add to the crime, yet not to the population, so it’s skewed sometimes, if people beat each other at the racetrack, the city gets the stat.

The lowest rates are found in places that are out of the way, that do not draw visitors to skew the stats, rural is usually better than suburmban and suburban usually better than metro. Lowest crime rate in Sd county is Ramona, at 15.2. It’s out of the way, has a very low visitor count, but if want lower stats, there you go. Fallbrook is sporting an 18.8, but it actually had more murders than temecula in 2008, yet not one random victim in either town so what does it matter, be careful who you become romanticly entangled with, who you buy your drugs from and which gangs you join and who you pick fights with, because outside of that, it’s lottery odds in most places with regards to getting murdered. Lager towns, places with lots of hotels, places with a tourist draw, places with lots of stores, their stats get bumped a little because of the thefts. I’m good with a 25 crimes per thousand rate, 2.5 per hundred per year, if I live here 50 years, odds are I’ll be the victim of one crime. When I lived at sdsu, I think I went through four car stereos and two televisions, in twenty years of being here, nothing, so I’m good, but if you are not, don’t let me keep you.

[temeculaguy]

I think it has come to the point that it is affecting your ability to be happy, so find somewhere that makes you happy. We’ve danced this dance so many times. In that case you referenced, the victim walked away (actualy the newspaper reported he walked to inland valley hospital which I find hard to believe), the suspect was known by name to the victim and was arrested and that’s all that is being reported, so you, the random stranger were in no danger. But you’ve posted about bar fights ten miles away and I’ve always said don’t go to biker bars at 1 am and you’ll be fine.

But go the fbi crime stats and find a place that has less crime. There are some, if it makes you feel safer, then it will be worth it to you.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html

pick one of the two links at the bottom, where it says FAQ and how many crimes happened in my town and the other one, how many police are employed in my town. You are going to find that it is mostly your perception, or you just notice things more. Reality is, crime is down by crimes per population in temec and in most so cal towns, we are at 1950’s levels for cities of 100k+.

2008, temec had 151 violent crimes and 2432 property crimes, total 2583, and they had it at 98,663 pop. puts it a 25.9 crimes per thousand people. (in 2006 the total was 3097 and 2007 it was 3255) So as the crime rate falls, you think it rises becuse you pay more attention. In 1993 the crime rate 53.4 and it is now less than half that, but then again there are 4 times as many cops, more cops per person than any town is sd county (except it’s tied with carlsbad), So looking at the data, it’s completely your perception, it’s the availability of the internet to inform you of things you never used to know about.

carlsbad had 227 and 2258, total of 2485 on 97,670, almost the exact same rate.

esco had 567 and 4182, total of 4749 with 136,508 pop, 34 crimes per thousand people

del mar is actually horrible at 40 per thousand, but you add tourists, it screws up you rate because they add to the crime, yet not to the population, so it’s skewed sometimes, if people beat each other at the racetrack, the city gets the stat.

The lowest rates are found in places that are out of the way, that do not draw visitors to skew the stats, rural is usually better than suburmban and suburban usually better than metro. Lowest crime rate in Sd county is Ramona, at 15.2. It’s out of the way, has a very low visitor count, but if want lower stats, there you go. Fallbrook is sporting an 18.8, but it actually had more murders than temecula in 2008, yet not one random victim in either town so what does it matter, be careful who you become romanticly entangled with, who you buy your drugs from and which gangs you join and who you pick fights with, because outside of that, it’s lottery odds in most places with regards to getting murdered. Lager towns, places with lots of hotels, places with a tourist draw, places with lots of stores, their stats get bumped a little because of the thefts. I’m good with a 25 crimes per thousand rate, 2.5 per hundred per year, if I live here 50 years, odds are I’ll be the victim of one crime. When I lived at sdsu, I think I went through four car stereos and two televisions, in twenty years of being here, nothing, so I’m good, but if you are not, don’t let me keep you.

[temeculaguy]

I think it has come to the point that it is affecting your ability to be happy, so find somewhere that makes you happy. We’ve danced this dance so many times. In that case you referenced, the victim walked away (actualy the newspaper reported he walked to inland valley hospital which I find hard to believe), the suspect was known by name to the victim and was arrested and that’s all that is being reported, so you, the random stranger were in no danger. But you’ve posted about bar fights ten miles away and I’ve always said don’t go to biker bars at 1 am and you’ll be fine.

But go the fbi crime stats and find a place that has less crime. There are some, if it makes you feel safer, then it will be worth it to you.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html

pick one of the two links at the bottom, where it says FAQ and how many crimes happened in my town and the other one, how many police are employed in my town. You are going to find that it is mostly your perception, or you just notice things more. Reality is, crime is down by crimes per population in temec and in most so cal towns, we are at 1950’s levels for cities of 100k+.

2008, temec had 151 violent crimes and 2432 property crimes, total 2583, and they had it at 98,663 pop. puts it a 25.9 crimes per thousand people. (in 2006 the total was 3097 and 2007 it was 3255) So as the crime rate falls, you think it rises becuse you pay more attention. In 1993 the crime rate 53.4 and it is now less than half that, but then again there are 4 times as many cops, more cops per person than any town is sd county (except it’s tied with carlsbad), So looking at the data, it’s completely your perception, it’s the availability of the internet to inform you of things you never used to know about.

carlsbad had 227 and 2258, total of 2485 on 97,670, almost the exact same rate.

esco had 567 and 4182, total of 4749 with 136,508 pop, 34 crimes per thousand people

del mar is actually horrible at 40 per thousand, but you add tourists, it screws up you rate because they add to the crime, yet not to the population, so it’s skewed sometimes, if people beat each other at the racetrack, the city gets the stat.

The lowest rates are found in places that are out of the way, that do not draw visitors to skew the stats, rural is usually better than suburmban and suburban usually better than metro. Lowest crime rate in Sd county is Ramona, at 15.2. It’s out of the way, has a very low visitor count, but if want lower stats, there you go. Fallbrook is sporting an 18.8, but it actually had more murders than temecula in 2008, yet not one random victim in either town so what does it matter, be careful who you become romanticly entangled with, who you buy your drugs from and which gangs you join and who you pick fights with, because outside of that, it’s lottery odds in most places with regards to getting murdered. Lager towns, places with lots of hotels, places with a tourist draw, places with lots of stores, their stats get bumped a little because of the thefts. I’m good with a 25 crimes per thousand rate, 2.5 per hundred per year, if I live here 50 years, odds are I’ll be the victim of one crime. When I lived at sdsu, I think I went through four car stereos and two televisions, in twenty years of being here, nothing, so I’m good, but if you are not, don’t let me keep you.

[temeculaguy]

I think it has come to the point that it is affecting your ability to be happy, so find somewhere that makes you happy. We’ve danced this dance so many times. In that case you referenced, the victim walked away (actualy the newspaper reported he walked to inland valley hospital which I find hard to believe), the suspect was known by name to the victim and was arrested and that’s all that is being reported, so you, the random stranger were in no danger. But you’ve posted about bar fights ten miles away and I’ve always said don’t go to biker bars at 1 am and you’ll be fine.

But go the fbi crime stats and find a place that has less crime. There are some, if it makes you feel safer, then it will be worth it to you.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html

pick one of the two links at the bottom, where it says FAQ and how many crimes happened in my town and the other one, how many police are employed in my town. You are going to find that it is mostly your perception, or you just notice things more. Reality is, crime is down by crimes per population in temec and in most so cal towns, we are at 1950’s levels for cities of 100k+.

2008, temec had 151 violent crimes and 2432 property crimes, total 2583, and they had it at 98,663 pop. puts it a 25.9 crimes per thousand people. (in 2006 the total was 3097 and 2007 it was 3255) So as the crime rate falls, you think it rises becuse you pay more attention. In 1993 the crime rate 53.4 and it is now less than half that, but then again there are 4 times as many cops, more cops per person than any town is sd county (except it’s tied with carlsbad), So looking at the data, it’s completely your perception, it’s the availability of the internet to inform you of things you never used to know about.

carlsbad had 227 and 2258, total of 2485 on 97,670, almost the exact same rate.

esco had 567 and 4182, total of 4749 with 136,508 pop, 34 crimes per thousand people

del mar is actually horrible at 40 per thousand, but you add tourists, it screws up you rate because they add to the crime, yet not to the population, so it’s skewed sometimes, if people beat each other at the racetrack, the city gets the stat.

The lowest rates are found in places that are out of the way, that do not draw visitors to skew the stats, rural is usually better than suburmban and suburban usually better than metro. Lowest crime rate in Sd county is Ramona, at 15.2. It’s out of the way, has a very low visitor count, but if want lower stats, there you go. Fallbrook is sporting an 18.8, but it actually had more murders than temecula in 2008, yet not one random victim in either town so what does it matter, be careful who you become romanticly entangled with, who you buy your drugs from and which gangs you join and who you pick fights with, because outside of that, it’s lottery odds in most places with regards to getting murdered. Lager towns, places with lots of hotels, places with a tourist draw, places with lots of stores, their stats get bumped a little because of the thefts. I’m good with a 25 crimes per thousand rate, 2.5 per hundred per year, if I live here 50 years, odds are I’ll be the victim of one crime. When I lived at sdsu, I think I went through four car stereos and two televisions, in twenty years of being here, nothing, so I’m good, but if you are not, don’t let me keep you.

[temeculaguy]

I think it has come to the point that it is affecting your ability to be happy, so find somewhere that makes you happy. We’ve danced this dance so many times. In that case you referenced, the victim walked away (actualy the newspaper reported he walked to inland valley hospital which I find hard to believe), the suspect was known by name to the victim and was arrested and that’s all that is being reported, so you, the random stranger were in no danger. But you’ve posted about bar fights ten miles away and I’ve always said don’t go to biker bars at 1 am and you’ll be fine.

But go the fbi crime stats and find a place that has less crime. There are some, if it makes you feel safer, then it will be worth it to you.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html

pick one of the two links at the bottom, where it says FAQ and how many crimes happened in my town and the other one, how many police are employed in my town. You are going to find that it is mostly your perception, or you just notice things more. Reality is, crime is down by crimes per population in temec and in most so cal towns, we are at 1950’s levels for cities of 100k+.

2008, temec had 151 violent crimes and 2432 property crimes, total 2583, and they had it at 98,663 pop. puts it a 25.9 crimes per thousand people. (in 2006 the total was 3097 and 2007 it was 3255) So as the crime rate falls, you think it rises becuse you pay more attention. In 1993 the crime rate 53.4 and it is now less than half that, but then again there are 4 times as many cops, more cops per person than any town is sd county (except it’s tied with carlsbad), So looking at the data, it’s completely your perception, it’s the availability of the internet to inform you of things you never used to know about.

carlsbad had 227 and 2258, total of 2485 on 97,670, almost the exact same rate.

esco had 567 and 4182, total of 4749 with 136,508 pop, 34 crimes per thousand people

del mar is actually horrible at 40 per thousand, but you add tourists, it screws up you rate because they add to the crime, yet not to the population, so it’s skewed sometimes, if people beat each other at the racetrack, the city gets the stat.

The lowest rates are found in places that are out of the way, that do not draw visitors to skew the stats, rural is usually better than suburmban and suburban usually better than metro. Lowest crime rate in Sd county is Ramona, at 15.2. It’s out of the way, has a very low visitor count, but if want lower stats, there you go. Fallbrook is sporting an 18.8, but it actually had more murders than temecula in 2008, yet not one random victim in either town so what does it matter, be careful who you become romanticly entangled with, who you buy your drugs from and which gangs you join and who you pick fights with, because outside of that, it’s lottery odds in most places with regards to getting murdered. Lager towns, places with lots of hotels, places with a tourist draw, places with lots of stores, their stats get bumped a little because of the thefts. I’m good with a 25 crimes per thousand rate, 2.5 per hundred per year, if I live here 50 years, odds are I’ll be the victim of one crime. When I lived at sdsu, I think I went through four car stereos and two televisions, in twenty years of being here, nothing, so I’m good, but if you are not, don’t let me keep you.

[temeculaguy]

This spam and ammo thing isn’t really working out now is it? Even though I make light of a few of you as being borderline nutjobs, I took the bait a little. Now that i’m sporting a 3 car garage, all by myself, and because I have some costco stock, I lined the walls of the garage with gorilla racks and I am flush with supplies for armegeddon.

Still no lines forming at my door of hungry, half naked women wanting to trade sex for food. I am quickly becoming an easy target for jokes within my posse. Because I am one of the only one of my friends without a woman living in my house to protest, so my pad had become the default poker game venue. I did pick up a nice poker table on craigs list and have it in the garage, got a tv and tunes wired out there and with all the garage doors open, and only one car in there, it’s roomy and cigar smoking is encouraged. It’s a man cave/bunker combo. So at the last game, my supplies were the butt of every joke. The jokes ranged from “so how long have you been morman?” to “by the time you get through all that toilet paper, it will be obsolete,” to “next time, get the chili without beans, because if the world ends we are all coming here and you don’t want ten guys in one house eating beans, unless of course you have a case of air freshener on that rack.”

And my personal favorite “the internet is for porn and sports, stop reading the crazy stuff or your garage will end up looking like a bunker, oops, too late.”

So thanks for that, I’m done worrying about this stuff.

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