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We enjoy Encinitas as well…the problem with the stretch of restaurants is that they are almost all Italian. We always joke, what are you in the mood for? Italian, Italian or Italian?

There is a nice little wine bar in that area as well. Makes for an enjoyable Fri or Sat night.

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We enjoy Encinitas as well…the problem with the stretch of restaurants is that they are almost all Italian. We always joke, what are you in the mood for? Italian, Italian or Italian?

There is a nice little wine bar in that area as well. Makes for an enjoyable Fri or Sat night.

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We enjoy Encinitas as well…the problem with the stretch of restaurants is that they are almost all Italian. We always joke, what are you in the mood for? Italian, Italian or Italian?

There is a nice little wine bar in that area as well. Makes for an enjoyable Fri or Sat night.

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I figured someone would say it’s not a fair comparison. That’s why I come armed with actual hard data!

The Del Mar numbers were drawn from official records, so I am pretty sure they don’t accidently include city of San Diego numbers.

As for the contention that the numbers for Del Mar are skewed because the number of residents is low compared to the number of visitors, that argument doesn’t pan out well (see below) and one could argue that Oceanside has a community college and a harbor that draw visitors, San Marcos has two colleges that draw visitors, and Carlsbad and Escondido have huge shopping malls which draw visitors.

I consider Ramona to be east county, not north county, and that’s why I left the number out. For prop crime it was 12.54 and for violent crime it was 2.28 so it is the lowest for property crime, but not for violent crime (Solana Beach and Poway are lower).

To attempt to see if the numbers were really skewed, let’s slice it a different way and see what we get: let’s take the raw number of crimes per square mile (ie, take # of residents completely out of the picture):

2006 Property Crimes per square mile:

Valley Center 15.4 (452 / 29.3)
Poway 19.9 (784 / 39.3)
Ramona 29.1 (446 / 15.3)
—
Encinitas 59.6 (1198 / 20.1)
Carlsbad 60.1 (2455 / 40.8)
San Marcos 72.5 (1735 / 23.9)
Fallbrook 73.0 (1285 / 17.6)
Solana Beach 76.9 (277 / 3.6)
—
Temecula 107.2 (2820 / 26.3)
Oceanside 117.1 (4873 / 41.6)
Escondido 120.7 (4407 / 36.5)
Del Mar 137.0 (274 / 2)
Vista 151.7 (2838 / 18.7)

2006 Violent Crime per square mile:

Poway 2.6 (103 / 39.3)
Valley Center 2.8 (83 / 29.3)
—
Ramona 5.2 (81 / 15.3)
Solana Beach 7.2 (26 / 3.6)
Carlsbad 8.0 (329 / 40.8)
Encinitas 8.1 (163 / 20.1)
Fallbrook 8.1 (143 / 17.6)
Temecula 10.5 (277 / 26.3)
San Marcos 11.9 (286 / 23.9)
Del Mar 13.0 (26 / 2)
—
Escondido 19.5 (713 / 36.5)
Oceanside 22.5 (936 / 41.6)
Vista 23.8 (446 / 18.7)

Notice I’ve included Ramona and Temecula this time.

Also note that, even when measured with square miles and not residents, the groupings of cities comes out roughly the same!! Del Mar did do a little better with violent crime, but not much.

I know, someone is going to claim some of those cities contain a lot of vacant land so the numbers are skewed again, but there is no perfect measure.

And someone will probably argue that the Del Mar crimes were mostly commited by visitors not residents, but to tell you the truth if I become a victim while I’m standing in Del Mar I don’t give a rodent’s rear if it was done by a resident or a visitor! I got stung while in Del Mar!

We’ve picked two measures now and the results have come out very similar. I think the numbers tell a relatively accurate story.

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I figured someone would say it’s not a fair comparison. That’s why I come armed with actual hard data!

The Del Mar numbers were drawn from official records, so I am pretty sure they don’t accidently include city of San Diego numbers.

As for the contention that the numbers for Del Mar are skewed because the number of residents is low compared to the number of visitors, that argument doesn’t pan out well (see below) and one could argue that Oceanside has a community college and a harbor that draw visitors, San Marcos has two colleges that draw visitors, and Carlsbad and Escondido have huge shopping malls which draw visitors.

I consider Ramona to be east county, not north county, and that’s why I left the number out. For prop crime it was 12.54 and for violent crime it was 2.28 so it is the lowest for property crime, but not for violent crime (Solana Beach and Poway are lower).

To attempt to see if the numbers were really skewed, let’s slice it a different way and see what we get: let’s take the raw number of crimes per square mile (ie, take # of residents completely out of the picture):

2006 Property Crimes per square mile:

Valley Center 15.4 (452 / 29.3)
Poway 19.9 (784 / 39.3)
Ramona 29.1 (446 / 15.3)
—
Encinitas 59.6 (1198 / 20.1)
Carlsbad 60.1 (2455 / 40.8)
San Marcos 72.5 (1735 / 23.9)
Fallbrook 73.0 (1285 / 17.6)
Solana Beach 76.9 (277 / 3.6)
—
Temecula 107.2 (2820 / 26.3)
Oceanside 117.1 (4873 / 41.6)
Escondido 120.7 (4407 / 36.5)
Del Mar 137.0 (274 / 2)
Vista 151.7 (2838 / 18.7)

2006 Violent Crime per square mile:

Poway 2.6 (103 / 39.3)
Valley Center 2.8 (83 / 29.3)
—
Ramona 5.2 (81 / 15.3)
Solana Beach 7.2 (26 / 3.6)
Carlsbad 8.0 (329 / 40.8)
Encinitas 8.1 (163 / 20.1)
Fallbrook 8.1 (143 / 17.6)
Temecula 10.5 (277 / 26.3)
San Marcos 11.9 (286 / 23.9)
Del Mar 13.0 (26 / 2)
—
Escondido 19.5 (713 / 36.5)
Oceanside 22.5 (936 / 41.6)
Vista 23.8 (446 / 18.7)

Notice I’ve included Ramona and Temecula this time.

Also note that, even when measured with square miles and not residents, the groupings of cities comes out roughly the same!! Del Mar did do a little better with violent crime, but not much.

I know, someone is going to claim some of those cities contain a lot of vacant land so the numbers are skewed again, but there is no perfect measure.

And someone will probably argue that the Del Mar crimes were mostly commited by visitors not residents, but to tell you the truth if I become a victim while I’m standing in Del Mar I don’t give a rodent’s rear if it was done by a resident or a visitor! I got stung while in Del Mar!

We’ve picked two measures now and the results have come out very similar. I think the numbers tell a relatively accurate story.

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I figured someone would say it’s not a fair comparison. That’s why I come armed with actual hard data!

The Del Mar numbers were drawn from official records, so I am pretty sure they don’t accidently include city of San Diego numbers.

As for the contention that the numbers for Del Mar are skewed because the number of residents is low compared to the number of visitors, that argument doesn’t pan out well (see below) and one could argue that Oceanside has a community college and a harbor that draw visitors, San Marcos has two colleges that draw visitors, and Carlsbad and Escondido have huge shopping malls which draw visitors.

I consider Ramona to be east county, not north county, and that’s why I left the number out. For prop crime it was 12.54 and for violent crime it was 2.28 so it is the lowest for property crime, but not for violent crime (Solana Beach and Poway are lower).

To attempt to see if the numbers were really skewed, let’s slice it a different way and see what we get: let’s take the raw number of crimes per square mile (ie, take # of residents completely out of the picture):

2006 Property Crimes per square mile:

Valley Center 15.4 (452 / 29.3)
Poway 19.9 (784 / 39.3)
Ramona 29.1 (446 / 15.3)
—
Encinitas 59.6 (1198 / 20.1)
Carlsbad 60.1 (2455 / 40.8)
San Marcos 72.5 (1735 / 23.9)
Fallbrook 73.0 (1285 / 17.6)
Solana Beach 76.9 (277 / 3.6)
—
Temecula 107.2 (2820 / 26.3)
Oceanside 117.1 (4873 / 41.6)
Escondido 120.7 (4407 / 36.5)
Del Mar 137.0 (274 / 2)
Vista 151.7 (2838 / 18.7)

2006 Violent Crime per square mile:

Poway 2.6 (103 / 39.3)
Valley Center 2.8 (83 / 29.3)
—
Ramona 5.2 (81 / 15.3)
Solana Beach 7.2 (26 / 3.6)
Carlsbad 8.0 (329 / 40.8)
Encinitas 8.1 (163 / 20.1)
Fallbrook 8.1 (143 / 17.6)
Temecula 10.5 (277 / 26.3)
San Marcos 11.9 (286 / 23.9)
Del Mar 13.0 (26 / 2)
—
Escondido 19.5 (713 / 36.5)
Oceanside 22.5 (936 / 41.6)
Vista 23.8 (446 / 18.7)

Notice I’ve included Ramona and Temecula this time.

Also note that, even when measured with square miles and not residents, the groupings of cities comes out roughly the same!! Del Mar did do a little better with violent crime, but not much.

I know, someone is going to claim some of those cities contain a lot of vacant land so the numbers are skewed again, but there is no perfect measure.

And someone will probably argue that the Del Mar crimes were mostly commited by visitors not residents, but to tell you the truth if I become a victim while I’m standing in Del Mar I don’t give a rodent’s rear if it was done by a resident or a visitor! I got stung while in Del Mar!

We’ve picked two measures now and the results have come out very similar. I think the numbers tell a relatively accurate story.

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I figured someone would say it’s not a fair comparison. That’s why I come armed with actual hard data!

The Del Mar numbers were drawn from official records, so I am pretty sure they don’t accidently include city of San Diego numbers.

As for the contention that the numbers for Del Mar are skewed because the number of residents is low compared to the number of visitors, that argument doesn’t pan out well (see below) and one could argue that Oceanside has a community college and a harbor that draw visitors, San Marcos has two colleges that draw visitors, and Carlsbad and Escondido have huge shopping malls which draw visitors.

I consider Ramona to be east county, not north county, and that’s why I left the number out. For prop crime it was 12.54 and for violent crime it was 2.28 so it is the lowest for property crime, but not for violent crime (Solana Beach and Poway are lower).

To attempt to see if the numbers were really skewed, let’s slice it a different way and see what we get: let’s take the raw number of crimes per square mile (ie, take # of residents completely out of the picture):

2006 Property Crimes per square mile:

Valley Center 15.4 (452 / 29.3)
Poway 19.9 (784 / 39.3)
Ramona 29.1 (446 / 15.3)
—
Encinitas 59.6 (1198 / 20.1)
Carlsbad 60.1 (2455 / 40.8)
San Marcos 72.5 (1735 / 23.9)
Fallbrook 73.0 (1285 / 17.6)
Solana Beach 76.9 (277 / 3.6)
—
Temecula 107.2 (2820 / 26.3)
Oceanside 117.1 (4873 / 41.6)
Escondido 120.7 (4407 / 36.5)
Del Mar 137.0 (274 / 2)
Vista 151.7 (2838 / 18.7)

2006 Violent Crime per square mile:

Poway 2.6 (103 / 39.3)
Valley Center 2.8 (83 / 29.3)
—
Ramona 5.2 (81 / 15.3)
Solana Beach 7.2 (26 / 3.6)
Carlsbad 8.0 (329 / 40.8)
Encinitas 8.1 (163 / 20.1)
Fallbrook 8.1 (143 / 17.6)
Temecula 10.5 (277 / 26.3)
San Marcos 11.9 (286 / 23.9)
Del Mar 13.0 (26 / 2)
—
Escondido 19.5 (713 / 36.5)
Oceanside 22.5 (936 / 41.6)
Vista 23.8 (446 / 18.7)

Notice I’ve included Ramona and Temecula this time.

Also note that, even when measured with square miles and not residents, the groupings of cities comes out roughly the same!! Del Mar did do a little better with violent crime, but not much.

I know, someone is going to claim some of those cities contain a lot of vacant land so the numbers are skewed again, but there is no perfect measure.

And someone will probably argue that the Del Mar crimes were mostly commited by visitors not residents, but to tell you the truth if I become a victim while I’m standing in Del Mar I don’t give a rodent’s rear if it was done by a resident or a visitor! I got stung while in Del Mar!

We’ve picked two measures now and the results have come out very similar. I think the numbers tell a relatively accurate story.

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I figured someone would say it’s not a fair comparison. That’s why I come armed with actual hard data!

The Del Mar numbers were drawn from official records, so I am pretty sure they don’t accidently include city of San Diego numbers.

As for the contention that the numbers for Del Mar are skewed because the number of residents is low compared to the number of visitors, that argument doesn’t pan out well (see below) and one could argue that Oceanside has a community college and a harbor that draw visitors, San Marcos has two colleges that draw visitors, and Carlsbad and Escondido have huge shopping malls which draw visitors.

I consider Ramona to be east county, not north county, and that’s why I left the number out. For prop crime it was 12.54 and for violent crime it was 2.28 so it is the lowest for property crime, but not for violent crime (Solana Beach and Poway are lower).

To attempt to see if the numbers were really skewed, let’s slice it a different way and see what we get: let’s take the raw number of crimes per square mile (ie, take # of residents completely out of the picture):

2006 Property Crimes per square mile:

Valley Center 15.4 (452 / 29.3)
Poway 19.9 (784 / 39.3)
Ramona 29.1 (446 / 15.3)
—
Encinitas 59.6 (1198 / 20.1)
Carlsbad 60.1 (2455 / 40.8)
San Marcos 72.5 (1735 / 23.9)
Fallbrook 73.0 (1285 / 17.6)
Solana Beach 76.9 (277 / 3.6)
—
Temecula 107.2 (2820 / 26.3)
Oceanside 117.1 (4873 / 41.6)
Escondido 120.7 (4407 / 36.5)
Del Mar 137.0 (274 / 2)
Vista 151.7 (2838 / 18.7)

2006 Violent Crime per square mile:

Poway 2.6 (103 / 39.3)
Valley Center 2.8 (83 / 29.3)
—
Ramona 5.2 (81 / 15.3)
Solana Beach 7.2 (26 / 3.6)
Carlsbad 8.0 (329 / 40.8)
Encinitas 8.1 (163 / 20.1)
Fallbrook 8.1 (143 / 17.6)
Temecula 10.5 (277 / 26.3)
San Marcos 11.9 (286 / 23.9)
Del Mar 13.0 (26 / 2)
—
Escondido 19.5 (713 / 36.5)
Oceanside 22.5 (936 / 41.6)
Vista 23.8 (446 / 18.7)

Notice I’ve included Ramona and Temecula this time.

Also note that, even when measured with square miles and not residents, the groupings of cities comes out roughly the same!! Del Mar did do a little better with violent crime, but not much.

I know, someone is going to claim some of those cities contain a lot of vacant land so the numbers are skewed again, but there is no perfect measure.

And someone will probably argue that the Del Mar crimes were mostly commited by visitors not residents, but to tell you the truth if I become a victim while I’m standing in Del Mar I don’t give a rodent’s rear if it was done by a resident or a visitor! I got stung while in Del Mar!

We’ve picked two measures now and the results have come out very similar. I think the numbers tell a relatively accurate story.

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Not sure if you’d consider Alamo (I typically don’t rent from them), but here is a story I just happened to read this week. The good side is Alamo addressed the problem and even found other billing errors.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TRAVEL/traveltips/01/23/mystery.charge/index.html

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Not sure if you’d consider Alamo (I typically don’t rent from them), but here is a story I just happened to read this week. The good side is Alamo addressed the problem and even found other billing errors.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TRAVEL/traveltips/01/23/mystery.charge/index.html

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Not sure if you’d consider Alamo (I typically don’t rent from them), but here is a story I just happened to read this week. The good side is Alamo addressed the problem and even found other billing errors.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TRAVEL/traveltips/01/23/mystery.charge/index.html

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Not sure if you’d consider Alamo (I typically don’t rent from them), but here is a story I just happened to read this week. The good side is Alamo addressed the problem and even found other billing errors.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TRAVEL/traveltips/01/23/mystery.charge/index.html

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Not sure if you’d consider Alamo (I typically don’t rent from them), but here is a story I just happened to read this week. The good side is Alamo addressed the problem and even found other billing errors.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TRAVEL/traveltips/01/23/mystery.charge/index.html

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Looking at crime rates around north county, as we did for San Diego city last week:

2006 Property Crime per 1,000 population:

Poway 15.5
Encinitas 19.0
Valley Center 20.7
Solana Beach 20.7
San Marcos 22.6
Carlsbad 24.9
Fallbrook 25.5
Oceanside 27.8
Vista 30.0
Escondido 31.3
Del Mar 60.5

2006 Violent Crime per 1,000 population:

Solana Beach 1.9
Poway 2.0
Encinitas 2.5
Fallbrook 2.8
Carlsbad 3.3
San Marcos 3.7
Valley Center 3.8
Vista 4.7
Escondido 5.0
Oceanside 5.3
Del Mar 5.7

Let’s compare lows, highs, and how O’side and Carlsbad (which is near perfection in some piggie’s minds) hold up against those.

Prop:
Poway is the least dangerous.
Carlsbad is 60% more dangerous than Poway.
Oceanside is 12% more dangerous than Carlsbad
Del Mar is way, way higher than other cities

Violent:
Solana Beach is the least dangerous.
Carlsbad is 73% more dangerous than Solana Beach.
Oceanside is 60% more dangerous than Carlsbad.
Del Mar is once again the most dangerous.

Along the 5 corridor (coast):
low #s: Solana Beach, Encinitas
mid #s: Carlsbad
high #s: Del Mar, Oceanside

Along the 78 corridor:
low #s:
mid #s: San Marcos
high #s: Oceanside, Vista, Escondido

Along the 15 corridor:
low #s: Poway
mid #s: Fallbrook, Valley Center (if you consider them 15)
high #s: Escondido

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Looking at crime rates around north county, as we did for San Diego city last week:

2006 Property Crime per 1,000 population:

Poway 15.5
Encinitas 19.0
Valley Center 20.7
Solana Beach 20.7
San Marcos 22.6
Carlsbad 24.9
Fallbrook 25.5
Oceanside 27.8
Vista 30.0
Escondido 31.3
Del Mar 60.5

2006 Violent Crime per 1,000 population:

Solana Beach 1.9
Poway 2.0
Encinitas 2.5
Fallbrook 2.8
Carlsbad 3.3
San Marcos 3.7
Valley Center 3.8
Vista 4.7
Escondido 5.0
Oceanside 5.3
Del Mar 5.7

Let’s compare lows, highs, and how O’side and Carlsbad (which is near perfection in some piggie’s minds) hold up against those.

Prop:
Poway is the least dangerous.
Carlsbad is 60% more dangerous than Poway.
Oceanside is 12% more dangerous than Carlsbad
Del Mar is way, way higher than other cities

Violent:
Solana Beach is the least dangerous.
Carlsbad is 73% more dangerous than Solana Beach.
Oceanside is 60% more dangerous than Carlsbad.
Del Mar is once again the most dangerous.

Along the 5 corridor (coast):
low #s: Solana Beach, Encinitas
mid #s: Carlsbad
high #s: Del Mar, Oceanside

Along the 78 corridor:
low #s:
mid #s: San Marcos
high #s: Oceanside, Vista, Escondido

Along the 15 corridor:
low #s: Poway
mid #s: Fallbrook, Valley Center (if you consider them 15)
high #s: Escondido

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