Oceanside REO’s

[TT]

Thanks for all of your views and info.

[svelte]

I figured someone would say it’s not a fair comparison. That’s why I come armed with actual hard data!

The Del Mar numbers were drawn from official records, so I am pretty sure they don’t accidently include city of San Diego numbers.

As for the contention that the numbers for Del Mar are skewed because the number of residents is low compared to the number of visitors, that argument doesn’t pan out well (see below) and one could argue that Oceanside has a community college and a harbor that draw visitors, San Marcos has two colleges that draw visitors, and Carlsbad and Escondido have huge shopping malls which draw visitors.

I consider Ramona to be east county, not north county, and that’s why I left the number out. For prop crime it was 12.54 and for violent crime it was 2.28 so it is the lowest for property crime, but not for violent crime (Solana Beach and Poway are lower).

To attempt to see if the numbers were really skewed, let’s slice it a different way and see what we get: let’s take the raw number of crimes per square mile (ie, take # of residents completely out of the picture):

2006 Property Crimes per square mile:

Valley Center 15.4 (452 / 29.3)
Poway 19.9 (784 / 39.3)
Ramona 29.1 (446 / 15.3)
—
Encinitas 59.6 (1198 / 20.1)
Carlsbad 60.1 (2455 / 40.8)
San Marcos 72.5 (1735 / 23.9)
Fallbrook 73.0 (1285 / 17.6)
Solana Beach 76.9 (277 / 3.6)
—
Temecula 107.2 (2820 / 26.3)
Oceanside 117.1 (4873 / 41.6)
Escondido 120.7 (4407 / 36.5)
Del Mar 137.0 (274 / 2)
Vista 151.7 (2838 / 18.7)

2006 Violent Crime per square mile:

Poway 2.6 (103 / 39.3)
Valley Center 2.8 (83 / 29.3)
—
Ramona 5.2 (81 / 15.3)
Solana Beach 7.2 (26 / 3.6)
Carlsbad 8.0 (329 / 40.8)
Encinitas 8.1 (163 / 20.1)
Fallbrook 8.1 (143 / 17.6)
Temecula 10.5 (277 / 26.3)
San Marcos 11.9 (286 / 23.9)
Del Mar 13.0 (26 / 2)
—
Escondido 19.5 (713 / 36.5)
Oceanside 22.5 (936 / 41.6)
Vista 23.8 (446 / 18.7)

Notice I’ve included Ramona and Temecula this time.

Also note that, even when measured with square miles and not residents, the groupings of cities comes out roughly the same!! Del Mar did do a little better with violent crime, but not much.

I know, someone is going to claim some of those cities contain a lot of vacant land so the numbers are skewed again, but there is no perfect measure.

And someone will probably argue that the Del Mar crimes were mostly commited by visitors not residents, but to tell you the truth if I become a victim while I’m standing in Del Mar I don’t give a rodent’s rear if it was done by a resident or a visitor! I got stung while in Del Mar!

We’ve picked two measures now and the results have come out very similar. I think the numbers tell a relatively accurate story.

[svelte]

I figured someone would say it’s not a fair comparison. That’s why I come armed with actual hard data!

The Del Mar numbers were drawn from official records, so I am pretty sure they don’t accidently include city of San Diego numbers.

As for the contention that the numbers for Del Mar are skewed because the number of residents is low compared to the number of visitors, that argument doesn’t pan out well (see below) and one could argue that Oceanside has a community college and a harbor that draw visitors, San Marcos has two colleges that draw visitors, and Carlsbad and Escondido have huge shopping malls which draw visitors.

I consider Ramona to be east county, not north county, and that’s why I left the number out. For prop crime it was 12.54 and for violent crime it was 2.28 so it is the lowest for property crime, but not for violent crime (Solana Beach and Poway are lower).

To attempt to see if the numbers were really skewed, let’s slice it a different way and see what we get: let’s take the raw number of crimes per square mile (ie, take # of residents completely out of the picture):

2006 Property Crimes per square mile:

Valley Center 15.4 (452 / 29.3)
Poway 19.9 (784 / 39.3)
Ramona 29.1 (446 / 15.3)
—
Encinitas 59.6 (1198 / 20.1)
Carlsbad 60.1 (2455 / 40.8)
San Marcos 72.5 (1735 / 23.9)
Fallbrook 73.0 (1285 / 17.6)
Solana Beach 76.9 (277 / 3.6)
—
Temecula 107.2 (2820 / 26.3)
Oceanside 117.1 (4873 / 41.6)
Escondido 120.7 (4407 / 36.5)
Del Mar 137.0 (274 / 2)
Vista 151.7 (2838 / 18.7)

2006 Violent Crime per square mile:

Poway 2.6 (103 / 39.3)
Valley Center 2.8 (83 / 29.3)
—
Ramona 5.2 (81 / 15.3)
Solana Beach 7.2 (26 / 3.6)
Carlsbad 8.0 (329 / 40.8)
Encinitas 8.1 (163 / 20.1)
Fallbrook 8.1 (143 / 17.6)
Temecula 10.5 (277 / 26.3)
San Marcos 11.9 (286 / 23.9)
Del Mar 13.0 (26 / 2)
—
Escondido 19.5 (713 / 36.5)
Oceanside 22.5 (936 / 41.6)
Vista 23.8 (446 / 18.7)

Notice I’ve included Ramona and Temecula this time.

Also note that, even when measured with square miles and not residents, the groupings of cities comes out roughly the same!! Del Mar did do a little better with violent crime, but not much.

I know, someone is going to claim some of those cities contain a lot of vacant land so the numbers are skewed again, but there is no perfect measure.

And someone will probably argue that the Del Mar crimes were mostly commited by visitors not residents, but to tell you the truth if I become a victim while I’m standing in Del Mar I don’t give a rodent’s rear if it was done by a resident or a visitor! I got stung while in Del Mar!

We’ve picked two measures now and the results have come out very similar. I think the numbers tell a relatively accurate story.

[svelte]

I figured someone would say it’s not a fair comparison. That’s why I come armed with actual hard data!

The Del Mar numbers were drawn from official records, so I am pretty sure they don’t accidently include city of San Diego numbers.

As for the contention that the numbers for Del Mar are skewed because the number of residents is low compared to the number of visitors, that argument doesn’t pan out well (see below) and one could argue that Oceanside has a community college and a harbor that draw visitors, San Marcos has two colleges that draw visitors, and Carlsbad and Escondido have huge shopping malls which draw visitors.

I consider Ramona to be east county, not north county, and that’s why I left the number out. For prop crime it was 12.54 and for violent crime it was 2.28 so it is the lowest for property crime, but not for violent crime (Solana Beach and Poway are lower).

To attempt to see if the numbers were really skewed, let’s slice it a different way and see what we get: let’s take the raw number of crimes per square mile (ie, take # of residents completely out of the picture):

2006 Property Crimes per square mile:

Valley Center 15.4 (452 / 29.3)
Poway 19.9 (784 / 39.3)
Ramona 29.1 (446 / 15.3)
—
Encinitas 59.6 (1198 / 20.1)
Carlsbad 60.1 (2455 / 40.8)
San Marcos 72.5 (1735 / 23.9)
Fallbrook 73.0 (1285 / 17.6)
Solana Beach 76.9 (277 / 3.6)
—
Temecula 107.2 (2820 / 26.3)
Oceanside 117.1 (4873 / 41.6)
Escondido 120.7 (4407 / 36.5)
Del Mar 137.0 (274 / 2)
Vista 151.7 (2838 / 18.7)

2006 Violent Crime per square mile:

Poway 2.6 (103 / 39.3)
Valley Center 2.8 (83 / 29.3)
—
Ramona 5.2 (81 / 15.3)
Solana Beach 7.2 (26 / 3.6)
Carlsbad 8.0 (329 / 40.8)
Encinitas 8.1 (163 / 20.1)
Fallbrook 8.1 (143 / 17.6)
Temecula 10.5 (277 / 26.3)
San Marcos 11.9 (286 / 23.9)
Del Mar 13.0 (26 / 2)
—
Escondido 19.5 (713 / 36.5)
Oceanside 22.5 (936 / 41.6)
Vista 23.8 (446 / 18.7)

Notice I’ve included Ramona and Temecula this time.

Also note that, even when measured with square miles and not residents, the groupings of cities comes out roughly the same!! Del Mar did do a little better with violent crime, but not much.

I know, someone is going to claim some of those cities contain a lot of vacant land so the numbers are skewed again, but there is no perfect measure.

And someone will probably argue that the Del Mar crimes were mostly commited by visitors not residents, but to tell you the truth if I become a victim while I’m standing in Del Mar I don’t give a rodent’s rear if it was done by a resident or a visitor! I got stung while in Del Mar!

We’ve picked two measures now and the results have come out very similar. I think the numbers tell a relatively accurate story.

[svelte]

I figured someone would say it’s not a fair comparison. That’s why I come armed with actual hard data!

The Del Mar numbers were drawn from official records, so I am pretty sure they don’t accidently include city of San Diego numbers.

As for the contention that the numbers for Del Mar are skewed because the number of residents is low compared to the number of visitors, that argument doesn’t pan out well (see below) and one could argue that Oceanside has a community college and a harbor that draw visitors, San Marcos has two colleges that draw visitors, and Carlsbad and Escondido have huge shopping malls which draw visitors.

I consider Ramona to be east county, not north county, and that’s why I left the number out. For prop crime it was 12.54 and for violent crime it was 2.28 so it is the lowest for property crime, but not for violent crime (Solana Beach and Poway are lower).

To attempt to see if the numbers were really skewed, let’s slice it a different way and see what we get: let’s take the raw number of crimes per square mile (ie, take # of residents completely out of the picture):

2006 Property Crimes per square mile:

Valley Center 15.4 (452 / 29.3)
Poway 19.9 (784 / 39.3)
Ramona 29.1 (446 / 15.3)
—
Encinitas 59.6 (1198 / 20.1)
Carlsbad 60.1 (2455 / 40.8)
San Marcos 72.5 (1735 / 23.9)
Fallbrook 73.0 (1285 / 17.6)
Solana Beach 76.9 (277 / 3.6)
—
Temecula 107.2 (2820 / 26.3)
Oceanside 117.1 (4873 / 41.6)
Escondido 120.7 (4407 / 36.5)
Del Mar 137.0 (274 / 2)
Vista 151.7 (2838 / 18.7)

2006 Violent Crime per square mile:

Poway 2.6 (103 / 39.3)
Valley Center 2.8 (83 / 29.3)
—
Ramona 5.2 (81 / 15.3)
Solana Beach 7.2 (26 / 3.6)
Carlsbad 8.0 (329 / 40.8)
Encinitas 8.1 (163 / 20.1)
Fallbrook 8.1 (143 / 17.6)
Temecula 10.5 (277 / 26.3)
San Marcos 11.9 (286 / 23.9)
Del Mar 13.0 (26 / 2)
—
Escondido 19.5 (713 / 36.5)
Oceanside 22.5 (936 / 41.6)
Vista 23.8 (446 / 18.7)

Notice I’ve included Ramona and Temecula this time.

Also note that, even when measured with square miles and not residents, the groupings of cities comes out roughly the same!! Del Mar did do a little better with violent crime, but not much.

I know, someone is going to claim some of those cities contain a lot of vacant land so the numbers are skewed again, but there is no perfect measure.

And someone will probably argue that the Del Mar crimes were mostly commited by visitors not residents, but to tell you the truth if I become a victim while I’m standing in Del Mar I don’t give a rodent’s rear if it was done by a resident or a visitor! I got stung while in Del Mar!

We’ve picked two measures now and the results have come out very similar. I think the numbers tell a relatively accurate story.

[svelte]

I figured someone would say it’s not a fair comparison. That’s why I come armed with actual hard data!

The Del Mar numbers were drawn from official records, so I am pretty sure they don’t accidently include city of San Diego numbers.

As for the contention that the numbers for Del Mar are skewed because the number of residents is low compared to the number of visitors, that argument doesn’t pan out well (see below) and one could argue that Oceanside has a community college and a harbor that draw visitors, San Marcos has two colleges that draw visitors, and Carlsbad and Escondido have huge shopping malls which draw visitors.

I consider Ramona to be east county, not north county, and that’s why I left the number out. For prop crime it was 12.54 and for violent crime it was 2.28 so it is the lowest for property crime, but not for violent crime (Solana Beach and Poway are lower).

To attempt to see if the numbers were really skewed, let’s slice it a different way and see what we get: let’s take the raw number of crimes per square mile (ie, take # of residents completely out of the picture):

2006 Property Crimes per square mile:

Valley Center 15.4 (452 / 29.3)
Poway 19.9 (784 / 39.3)
Ramona 29.1 (446 / 15.3)
—
Encinitas 59.6 (1198 / 20.1)
Carlsbad 60.1 (2455 / 40.8)
San Marcos 72.5 (1735 / 23.9)
Fallbrook 73.0 (1285 / 17.6)
Solana Beach 76.9 (277 / 3.6)
—
Temecula 107.2 (2820 / 26.3)
Oceanside 117.1 (4873 / 41.6)
Escondido 120.7 (4407 / 36.5)
Del Mar 137.0 (274 / 2)
Vista 151.7 (2838 / 18.7)

2006 Violent Crime per square mile:

Poway 2.6 (103 / 39.3)
Valley Center 2.8 (83 / 29.3)
—
Ramona 5.2 (81 / 15.3)
Solana Beach 7.2 (26 / 3.6)
Carlsbad 8.0 (329 / 40.8)
Encinitas 8.1 (163 / 20.1)
Fallbrook 8.1 (143 / 17.6)
Temecula 10.5 (277 / 26.3)
San Marcos 11.9 (286 / 23.9)
Del Mar 13.0 (26 / 2)
—
Escondido 19.5 (713 / 36.5)
Oceanside 22.5 (936 / 41.6)
Vista 23.8 (446 / 18.7)

Notice I’ve included Ramona and Temecula this time.

Also note that, even when measured with square miles and not residents, the groupings of cities comes out roughly the same!! Del Mar did do a little better with violent crime, but not much.

I know, someone is going to claim some of those cities contain a lot of vacant land so the numbers are skewed again, but there is no perfect measure.

And someone will probably argue that the Del Mar crimes were mostly commited by visitors not residents, but to tell you the truth if I become a victim while I’m standing in Del Mar I don’t give a rodent’s rear if it was done by a resident or a visitor! I got stung while in Del Mar!

We’ve picked two measures now and the results have come out very similar. I think the numbers tell a relatively accurate story.

[temeculaguy]

O.K. Svelte, you did your homework and your data is good. I wasn’t breaking the property vs violent crime, just total crime and using that number, Ramona usually wins and since it is on the 78 and North of Poway, I always consider it as North County. I like that you included the total crimes, don’t sweat Del Mar, look at the totals (274 prop crimes 26 violent, total of 300), then look at O’side (4,873 and 936), there’s no way you believe that any other town has the tourism percentages that Del Mar has. I looked up their total census population (4,400). The attendance at the racetrack or the fair can more than double the town’s population at any given moment, the beachgoers double it and then some, O’side or the other towns do not have 200,000 tourists at one time but Del Mar can have 8,000, usually more, the fair alone draws 1.2 million over it’s run and the fairgrounds hosts some kind of event 315 days a year with more parking spaces than town residents. The truth is in the real numbers (crimes per sq mile isn’t used very often, the best guage is by population). SO looking at the real numbers, there will be almost 20 violent crimes and 90 property crimes in O’side this week, while Del Mar will have a 50% chance of having 1 or 0 violent crimes and 5 property crimes, I think you will be safer by visiting the beach in Del Mar vs O’side. There is no perfect measure, looking at the totality of things is what matters and for real estate, perception also plays a role. When someone asks about Carlsbad vs O’side or Poway/4-s vs. Esco, the perception and the numbers support what the posters here are saying and thank you for bringing the data, I hate discussing things when people only use their personal experiences or things they’ve seen in the paper, I love the data.

[temeculaguy]

O.K. Svelte, you did your homework and your data is good. I wasn’t breaking the property vs violent crime, just total crime and using that number, Ramona usually wins and since it is on the 78 and North of Poway, I always consider it as North County. I like that you included the total crimes, don’t sweat Del Mar, look at the totals (274 prop crimes 26 violent, total of 300), then look at O’side (4,873 and 936), there’s no way you believe that any other town has the tourism percentages that Del Mar has. I looked up their total census population (4,400). The attendance at the racetrack or the fair can more than double the town’s population at any given moment, the beachgoers double it and then some, O’side or the other towns do not have 200,000 tourists at one time but Del Mar can have 8,000, usually more, the fair alone draws 1.2 million over it’s run and the fairgrounds hosts some kind of event 315 days a year with more parking spaces than town residents. The truth is in the real numbers (crimes per sq mile isn’t used very often, the best guage is by population). SO looking at the real numbers, there will be almost 20 violent crimes and 90 property crimes in O’side this week, while Del Mar will have a 50% chance of having 1 or 0 violent crimes and 5 property crimes, I think you will be safer by visiting the beach in Del Mar vs O’side. There is no perfect measure, looking at the totality of things is what matters and for real estate, perception also plays a role. When someone asks about Carlsbad vs O’side or Poway/4-s vs. Esco, the perception and the numbers support what the posters here are saying and thank you for bringing the data, I hate discussing things when people only use their personal experiences or things they’ve seen in the paper, I love the data.

[temeculaguy]

O.K. Svelte, you did your homework and your data is good. I wasn’t breaking the property vs violent crime, just total crime and using that number, Ramona usually wins and since it is on the 78 and North of Poway, I always consider it as North County. I like that you included the total crimes, don’t sweat Del Mar, look at the totals (274 prop crimes 26 violent, total of 300), then look at O’side (4,873 and 936), there’s no way you believe that any other town has the tourism percentages that Del Mar has. I looked up their total census population (4,400). The attendance at the racetrack or the fair can more than double the town’s population at any given moment, the beachgoers double it and then some, O’side or the other towns do not have 200,000 tourists at one time but Del Mar can have 8,000, usually more, the fair alone draws 1.2 million over it’s run and the fairgrounds hosts some kind of event 315 days a year with more parking spaces than town residents. The truth is in the real numbers (crimes per sq mile isn’t used very often, the best guage is by population). SO looking at the real numbers, there will be almost 20 violent crimes and 90 property crimes in O’side this week, while Del Mar will have a 50% chance of having 1 or 0 violent crimes and 5 property crimes, I think you will be safer by visiting the beach in Del Mar vs O’side. There is no perfect measure, looking at the totality of things is what matters and for real estate, perception also plays a role. When someone asks about Carlsbad vs O’side or Poway/4-s vs. Esco, the perception and the numbers support what the posters here are saying and thank you for bringing the data, I hate discussing things when people only use their personal experiences or things they’ve seen in the paper, I love the data.

[temeculaguy]

O.K. Svelte, you did your homework and your data is good. I wasn’t breaking the property vs violent crime, just total crime and using that number, Ramona usually wins and since it is on the 78 and North of Poway, I always consider it as North County. I like that you included the total crimes, don’t sweat Del Mar, look at the totals (274 prop crimes 26 violent, total of 300), then look at O’side (4,873 and 936), there’s no way you believe that any other town has the tourism percentages that Del Mar has. I looked up their total census population (4,400). The attendance at the racetrack or the fair can more than double the town’s population at any given moment, the beachgoers double it and then some, O’side or the other towns do not have 200,000 tourists at one time but Del Mar can have 8,000, usually more, the fair alone draws 1.2 million over it’s run and the fairgrounds hosts some kind of event 315 days a year with more parking spaces than town residents. The truth is in the real numbers (crimes per sq mile isn’t used very often, the best guage is by population). SO looking at the real numbers, there will be almost 20 violent crimes and 90 property crimes in O’side this week, while Del Mar will have a 50% chance of having 1 or 0 violent crimes and 5 property crimes, I think you will be safer by visiting the beach in Del Mar vs O’side. There is no perfect measure, looking at the totality of things is what matters and for real estate, perception also plays a role. When someone asks about Carlsbad vs O’side or Poway/4-s vs. Esco, the perception and the numbers support what the posters here are saying and thank you for bringing the data, I hate discussing things when people only use their personal experiences or things they’ve seen in the paper, I love the data.

[temeculaguy]

O.K. Svelte, you did your homework and your data is good. I wasn’t breaking the property vs violent crime, just total crime and using that number, Ramona usually wins and since it is on the 78 and North of Poway, I always consider it as North County. I like that you included the total crimes, don’t sweat Del Mar, look at the totals (274 prop crimes 26 violent, total of 300), then look at O’side (4,873 and 936), there’s no way you believe that any other town has the tourism percentages that Del Mar has. I looked up their total census population (4,400). The attendance at the racetrack or the fair can more than double the town’s population at any given moment, the beachgoers double it and then some, O’side or the other towns do not have 200,000 tourists at one time but Del Mar can have 8,000, usually more, the fair alone draws 1.2 million over it’s run and the fairgrounds hosts some kind of event 315 days a year with more parking spaces than town residents. The truth is in the real numbers (crimes per sq mile isn’t used very often, the best guage is by population). SO looking at the real numbers, there will be almost 20 violent crimes and 90 property crimes in O’side this week, while Del Mar will have a 50% chance of having 1 or 0 violent crimes and 5 property crimes, I think you will be safer by visiting the beach in Del Mar vs O’side. There is no perfect measure, looking at the totality of things is what matters and for real estate, perception also plays a role. When someone asks about Carlsbad vs O’side or Poway/4-s vs. Esco, the perception and the numbers support what the posters here are saying and thank you for bringing the data, I hate discussing things when people only use their personal experiences or things they’ve seen in the paper, I love the data.

[svelte]

you are right data can be deceiving, but I don’t think it is in this case.

When you go to crimes per square mile and you see that if you stood in one spot in Del Mar, your chances of being a victim are just as high as they’d be in Oside, I don’t see how you can argue with that. That kind of number is blind to whether you’re a tourist or resident since in reality that bit of metadata is irrelevant.

Though I don’t like anecdotal evidence as much as stats, here is an article that quotes a resident:

The report also indicates upscale Del Mar has a theft problem. The city’s property-crime rate was the highest in the county, jumping 35 percent last year.

Del Mar contracts with the Sheriff’s Department for law enforcement. Sheriff officials assigned to the North County community did not return calls yesterday.

Suzanne Sokol, co-owner of a clothing boutique in Del Mar, blamed the increase on a minimal police presence, especially on nights and weekends.

“A little more …. would make a difference,” she said, and noted that vehicle break-ins have been a problem near the racetrack and in other parts of town.

“I’ve been here since 1994 and it’s gotten worse,” she said.

From

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060414/news_7m14stats.html

[svelte]

you are right data can be deceiving, but I don’t think it is in this case.

When you go to crimes per square mile and you see that if you stood in one spot in Del Mar, your chances of being a victim are just as high as they’d be in Oside, I don’t see how you can argue with that. That kind of number is blind to whether you’re a tourist or resident since in reality that bit of metadata is irrelevant.

Though I don’t like anecdotal evidence as much as stats, here is an article that quotes a resident:

The report also indicates upscale Del Mar has a theft problem. The city’s property-crime rate was the highest in the county, jumping 35 percent last year.

Del Mar contracts with the Sheriff’s Department for law enforcement. Sheriff officials assigned to the North County community did not return calls yesterday.

Suzanne Sokol, co-owner of a clothing boutique in Del Mar, blamed the increase on a minimal police presence, especially on nights and weekends.

“A little more …. would make a difference,” she said, and noted that vehicle break-ins have been a problem near the racetrack and in other parts of town.

“I’ve been here since 1994 and it’s gotten worse,” she said.

From

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060414/news_7m14stats.html

[svelte]

you are right data can be deceiving, but I don’t think it is in this case.

When you go to crimes per square mile and you see that if you stood in one spot in Del Mar, your chances of being a victim are just as high as they’d be in Oside, I don’t see how you can argue with that. That kind of number is blind to whether you’re a tourist or resident since in reality that bit of metadata is irrelevant.

Though I don’t like anecdotal evidence as much as stats, here is an article that quotes a resident:

The report also indicates upscale Del Mar has a theft problem. The city’s property-crime rate was the highest in the county, jumping 35 percent last year.

Del Mar contracts with the Sheriff’s Department for law enforcement. Sheriff officials assigned to the North County community did not return calls yesterday.

Suzanne Sokol, co-owner of a clothing boutique in Del Mar, blamed the increase on a minimal police presence, especially on nights and weekends.

“A little more …. would make a difference,” she said, and noted that vehicle break-ins have been a problem near the racetrack and in other parts of town.

“I’ve been here since 1994 and it’s gotten worse,” she said.

From

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060414/news_7m14stats.html

[svelte]

you are right data can be deceiving, but I don’t think it is in this case.

When you go to crimes per square mile and you see that if you stood in one spot in Del Mar, your chances of being a victim are just as high as they’d be in Oside, I don’t see how you can argue with that. That kind of number is blind to whether you’re a tourist or resident since in reality that bit of metadata is irrelevant.

Though I don’t like anecdotal evidence as much as stats, here is an article that quotes a resident:

The report also indicates upscale Del Mar has a theft problem. The city’s property-crime rate was the highest in the county, jumping 35 percent last year.

Del Mar contracts with the Sheriff’s Department for law enforcement. Sheriff officials assigned to the North County community did not return calls yesterday.

Suzanne Sokol, co-owner of a clothing boutique in Del Mar, blamed the increase on a minimal police presence, especially on nights and weekends.

“A little more …. would make a difference,” she said, and noted that vehicle break-ins have been a problem near the racetrack and in other parts of town.

“I’ve been here since 1994 and it’s gotten worse,” she said.

From

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060414/news_7m14stats.html

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