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[quote=kev374][quote=Arraya]Actually, you can look up teachers salaries on salarywizard.com. 70k a year is about right for a teacher with 10 years experience. [/quote]
Considering Software Engineers with 10 years experience are being offered $70k salaries these days I think paying that to a high school teachers is ludicrous, it should be more like $30k considering it is only for 9 months of work.[/quote]
Wow – so you think a software engineer with less formal schooling (assuming a BS) and the same amount of experience should be paid double what a HS teacher receives? No wonder our schools are in such bad shape. My personal opinion is that shorting the people who are teaching the next generation is pretty short-sighted thinking. I’d love to see those careers pay significantly higher so that they could attract the very best applicants away from private sector.
In any case, while some companies may be offering $70K for an engineer, I can pretty much say with a certainty that they won’t be doing that for very much longer. My company tried to go the cheap route on contract engineers over the past year, paying roughly those rates. We recently convinced corporate HR that it was a losing proposition to try to lowball engineers, after losing 5 of them to competitors willing to pay normal market rates, most of them only 3-4 months after hiring. Our rate for a 10 year experienced engineer is back into the 90K+ range again.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=kev374][quote=Arraya]Actually, you can look up teachers salaries on salarywizard.com. 70k a year is about right for a teacher with 10 years experience. [/quote]
Considering Software Engineers with 10 years experience are being offered $70k salaries these days I think paying that to a high school teachers is ludicrous, it should be more like $30k considering it is only for 9 months of work.[/quote]
Wow – so you think a software engineer with less formal schooling (assuming a BS) and the same amount of experience should be paid double what a HS teacher receives? No wonder our schools are in such bad shape. My personal opinion is that shorting the people who are teaching the next generation is pretty short-sighted thinking. I’d love to see those careers pay significantly higher so that they could attract the very best applicants away from private sector.
In any case, while some companies may be offering $70K for an engineer, I can pretty much say with a certainty that they won’t be doing that for very much longer. My company tried to go the cheap route on contract engineers over the past year, paying roughly those rates. We recently convinced corporate HR that it was a losing proposition to try to lowball engineers, after losing 5 of them to competitors willing to pay normal market rates, most of them only 3-4 months after hiring. Our rate for a 10 year experienced engineer is back into the 90K+ range again.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=kev374][quote=Arraya]Actually, you can look up teachers salaries on salarywizard.com. 70k a year is about right for a teacher with 10 years experience. [/quote]
Considering Software Engineers with 10 years experience are being offered $70k salaries these days I think paying that to a high school teachers is ludicrous, it should be more like $30k considering it is only for 9 months of work.[/quote]
Wow – so you think a software engineer with less formal schooling (assuming a BS) and the same amount of experience should be paid double what a HS teacher receives? No wonder our schools are in such bad shape. My personal opinion is that shorting the people who are teaching the next generation is pretty short-sighted thinking. I’d love to see those careers pay significantly higher so that they could attract the very best applicants away from private sector.
In any case, while some companies may be offering $70K for an engineer, I can pretty much say with a certainty that they won’t be doing that for very much longer. My company tried to go the cheap route on contract engineers over the past year, paying roughly those rates. We recently convinced corporate HR that it was a losing proposition to try to lowball engineers, after losing 5 of them to competitors willing to pay normal market rates, most of them only 3-4 months after hiring. Our rate for a 10 year experienced engineer is back into the 90K+ range again.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=kev374][quote=Arraya]Actually, you can look up teachers salaries on salarywizard.com. 70k a year is about right for a teacher with 10 years experience. [/quote]
Considering Software Engineers with 10 years experience are being offered $70k salaries these days I think paying that to a high school teachers is ludicrous, it should be more like $30k considering it is only for 9 months of work.[/quote]
Wow – so you think a software engineer with less formal schooling (assuming a BS) and the same amount of experience should be paid double what a HS teacher receives? No wonder our schools are in such bad shape. My personal opinion is that shorting the people who are teaching the next generation is pretty short-sighted thinking. I’d love to see those careers pay significantly higher so that they could attract the very best applicants away from private sector.
In any case, while some companies may be offering $70K for an engineer, I can pretty much say with a certainty that they won’t be doing that for very much longer. My company tried to go the cheap route on contract engineers over the past year, paying roughly those rates. We recently convinced corporate HR that it was a losing proposition to try to lowball engineers, after losing 5 of them to competitors willing to pay normal market rates, most of them only 3-4 months after hiring. Our rate for a 10 year experienced engineer is back into the 90K+ range again.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=kev374][quote=Arraya]Actually, you can look up teachers salaries on salarywizard.com. 70k a year is about right for a teacher with 10 years experience. [/quote]
Considering Software Engineers with 10 years experience are being offered $70k salaries these days I think paying that to a high school teachers is ludicrous, it should be more like $30k considering it is only for 9 months of work.[/quote]
Wow – so you think a software engineer with less formal schooling (assuming a BS) and the same amount of experience should be paid double what a HS teacher receives? No wonder our schools are in such bad shape. My personal opinion is that shorting the people who are teaching the next generation is pretty short-sighted thinking. I’d love to see those careers pay significantly higher so that they could attract the very best applicants away from private sector.
In any case, while some companies may be offering $70K for an engineer, I can pretty much say with a certainty that they won’t be doing that for very much longer. My company tried to go the cheap route on contract engineers over the past year, paying roughly those rates. We recently convinced corporate HR that it was a losing proposition to try to lowball engineers, after losing 5 of them to competitors willing to pay normal market rates, most of them only 3-4 months after hiring. Our rate for a 10 year experienced engineer is back into the 90K+ range again.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=flu]Btw: the brake problem probably isn’t just limited to lexuses.
Me thinks most cars these days have power-assisted brakes…Not a brake engineer, but don’t they get they vacuum power from the engine? If an engine is at WOT, vacuum would drop after a few pumps, no?
Funny thing is I thought after the audi issues, that it was required when brakes are applied the ignition would be cut… I guess not.[/quote]
Audi’s problem was that the gas and brake pedals were too close together, and their brake pedal too small. The “unintended acceleration” was people hitting the accelerator thinking that it was the brake pedal.
Not sure how you’d actually be able to implement an “ignition cut-off” while braking (or even a fuel cutoff) – you’d have to put a lot of logic in wrt low speed exceptions (unless you want to restart your car every time you come to a stop – and stop-and-go traffic on the freeway would be just ridiculous), and it would pretty much kill every sports car out there as well.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=flu]Btw: the brake problem probably isn’t just limited to lexuses.
Me thinks most cars these days have power-assisted brakes…Not a brake engineer, but don’t they get they vacuum power from the engine? If an engine is at WOT, vacuum would drop after a few pumps, no?
Funny thing is I thought after the audi issues, that it was required when brakes are applied the ignition would be cut… I guess not.[/quote]
Audi’s problem was that the gas and brake pedals were too close together, and their brake pedal too small. The “unintended acceleration” was people hitting the accelerator thinking that it was the brake pedal.
Not sure how you’d actually be able to implement an “ignition cut-off” while braking (or even a fuel cutoff) – you’d have to put a lot of logic in wrt low speed exceptions (unless you want to restart your car every time you come to a stop – and stop-and-go traffic on the freeway would be just ridiculous), and it would pretty much kill every sports car out there as well.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=flu]Btw: the brake problem probably isn’t just limited to lexuses.
Me thinks most cars these days have power-assisted brakes…Not a brake engineer, but don’t they get they vacuum power from the engine? If an engine is at WOT, vacuum would drop after a few pumps, no?
Funny thing is I thought after the audi issues, that it was required when brakes are applied the ignition would be cut… I guess not.[/quote]
Audi’s problem was that the gas and brake pedals were too close together, and their brake pedal too small. The “unintended acceleration” was people hitting the accelerator thinking that it was the brake pedal.
Not sure how you’d actually be able to implement an “ignition cut-off” while braking (or even a fuel cutoff) – you’d have to put a lot of logic in wrt low speed exceptions (unless you want to restart your car every time you come to a stop – and stop-and-go traffic on the freeway would be just ridiculous), and it would pretty much kill every sports car out there as well.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=flu]Btw: the brake problem probably isn’t just limited to lexuses.
Me thinks most cars these days have power-assisted brakes…Not a brake engineer, but don’t they get they vacuum power from the engine? If an engine is at WOT, vacuum would drop after a few pumps, no?
Funny thing is I thought after the audi issues, that it was required when brakes are applied the ignition would be cut… I guess not.[/quote]
Audi’s problem was that the gas and brake pedals were too close together, and their brake pedal too small. The “unintended acceleration” was people hitting the accelerator thinking that it was the brake pedal.
Not sure how you’d actually be able to implement an “ignition cut-off” while braking (or even a fuel cutoff) – you’d have to put a lot of logic in wrt low speed exceptions (unless you want to restart your car every time you come to a stop – and stop-and-go traffic on the freeway would be just ridiculous), and it would pretty much kill every sports car out there as well.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=flu]Btw: the brake problem probably isn’t just limited to lexuses.
Me thinks most cars these days have power-assisted brakes…Not a brake engineer, but don’t they get they vacuum power from the engine? If an engine is at WOT, vacuum would drop after a few pumps, no?
Funny thing is I thought after the audi issues, that it was required when brakes are applied the ignition would be cut… I guess not.[/quote]
Audi’s problem was that the gas and brake pedals were too close together, and their brake pedal too small. The “unintended acceleration” was people hitting the accelerator thinking that it was the brake pedal.
Not sure how you’d actually be able to implement an “ignition cut-off” while braking (or even a fuel cutoff) – you’d have to put a lot of logic in wrt low speed exceptions (unless you want to restart your car every time you come to a stop – and stop-and-go traffic on the freeway would be just ridiculous), and it would pretty much kill every sports car out there as well.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=AN]It has push button start, so the user could have just toss the keys out of the window and after a short distance, the car will shut off.[/quote]
Doesn’t work that way unfortunately.
The key being in proximity to the ignition is only required to start the car. Once started, the car will continue to run regardless of whether the key is present or not.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=AN]It has push button start, so the user could have just toss the keys out of the window and after a short distance, the car will shut off.[/quote]
Doesn’t work that way unfortunately.
The key being in proximity to the ignition is only required to start the car. Once started, the car will continue to run regardless of whether the key is present or not.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=AN]It has push button start, so the user could have just toss the keys out of the window and after a short distance, the car will shut off.[/quote]
Doesn’t work that way unfortunately.
The key being in proximity to the ignition is only required to start the car. Once started, the car will continue to run regardless of whether the key is present or not.
SDEngineerParticipant[quote=AN]It has push button start, so the user could have just toss the keys out of the window and after a short distance, the car will shut off.[/quote]
Doesn’t work that way unfortunately.
The key being in proximity to the ignition is only required to start the car. Once started, the car will continue to run regardless of whether the key is present or not.
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