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Use costco if you have a membership.

With costco, you go to the web site, enter your member number, enter the car you want and it emails you the name of a fleet rep at a local dealer. The fleet reps are simple, straightforward people. I’ve dealt with three and in every case, they weren’t into B.S. They are a little rushed cuz they are busy people, but they aren’t pushing for a sale and kind of give you a “here’s the deal, take it or leave it” approach.

The fleet rep shows you his invoice. The price you pay is invoice plus or minux X, where X varies, depending on the year and model.

You can get service at a dealer other than the one you use for the purchase.

Even if you buy a car at Mossy, avoid their service. My wife always complained about their high-pressure, fear-based, commission-paid sales team. I thought she was just being a girl, then a dude tried to convince me that my brakes were metal-to-metal in order to sell me a brake job. I said I would do it later and he got mad, told me it was unsafe, blah, blah. I took it to Beeline and they said I had 10% left.

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Use costco if you have a membership.

With costco, you go to the web site, enter your member number, enter the car you want and it emails you the name of a fleet rep at a local dealer. The fleet reps are simple, straightforward people. I’ve dealt with three and in every case, they weren’t into B.S. They are a little rushed cuz they are busy people, but they aren’t pushing for a sale and kind of give you a “here’s the deal, take it or leave it” approach.

The fleet rep shows you his invoice. The price you pay is invoice plus or minux X, where X varies, depending on the year and model.

You can get service at a dealer other than the one you use for the purchase.

Even if you buy a car at Mossy, avoid their service. My wife always complained about their high-pressure, fear-based, commission-paid sales team. I thought she was just being a girl, then a dude tried to convince me that my brakes were metal-to-metal in order to sell me a brake job. I said I would do it later and he got mad, told me it was unsafe, blah, blah. I took it to Beeline and they said I had 10% left.

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Use costco if you have a membership.

With costco, you go to the web site, enter your member number, enter the car you want and it emails you the name of a fleet rep at a local dealer. The fleet reps are simple, straightforward people. I’ve dealt with three and in every case, they weren’t into B.S. They are a little rushed cuz they are busy people, but they aren’t pushing for a sale and kind of give you a “here’s the deal, take it or leave it” approach.

The fleet rep shows you his invoice. The price you pay is invoice plus or minux X, where X varies, depending on the year and model.

You can get service at a dealer other than the one you use for the purchase.

Even if you buy a car at Mossy, avoid their service. My wife always complained about their high-pressure, fear-based, commission-paid sales team. I thought she was just being a girl, then a dude tried to convince me that my brakes were metal-to-metal in order to sell me a brake job. I said I would do it later and he got mad, told me it was unsafe, blah, blah. I took it to Beeline and they said I had 10% left.

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Use costco if you have a membership.

With costco, you go to the web site, enter your member number, enter the car you want and it emails you the name of a fleet rep at a local dealer. The fleet reps are simple, straightforward people. I’ve dealt with three and in every case, they weren’t into B.S. They are a little rushed cuz they are busy people, but they aren’t pushing for a sale and kind of give you a “here’s the deal, take it or leave it” approach.

The fleet rep shows you his invoice. The price you pay is invoice plus or minux X, where X varies, depending on the year and model.

You can get service at a dealer other than the one you use for the purchase.

Even if you buy a car at Mossy, avoid their service. My wife always complained about their high-pressure, fear-based, commission-paid sales team. I thought she was just being a girl, then a dude tried to convince me that my brakes were metal-to-metal in order to sell me a brake job. I said I would do it later and he got mad, told me it was unsafe, blah, blah. I took it to Beeline and they said I had 10% left.

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This probably isn’t a good place to discuss the cost of owning vs. renting … 🙂

Assuming similar costs, I think the difference comes down to control.

You have much more control over a house that you own than over one you rent.

When you rent, however, you have more control over where you live, as it is easier to move to a new place you like better. So, there is some sense of control and flexibility in renting as well – though on a macro scale, not a micro scale.

You lose some control with renting, also, as you don’t have any guarantee that you can stay in a place you like for a long time.

The question is – do you want alot of control over the walls, color, landscaping, design, etc. of 1 property or the freedom to change properties ? Simple as that. I prefer the former.

For many, Carmel Valley is Nirvana. I don’t get it either, but I have come to accept that others love it.

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This probably isn’t a good place to discuss the cost of owning vs. renting … 🙂

Assuming similar costs, I think the difference comes down to control.

You have much more control over a house that you own than over one you rent.

When you rent, however, you have more control over where you live, as it is easier to move to a new place you like better. So, there is some sense of control and flexibility in renting as well – though on a macro scale, not a micro scale.

You lose some control with renting, also, as you don’t have any guarantee that you can stay in a place you like for a long time.

The question is – do you want alot of control over the walls, color, landscaping, design, etc. of 1 property or the freedom to change properties ? Simple as that. I prefer the former.

For many, Carmel Valley is Nirvana. I don’t get it either, but I have come to accept that others love it.

[sdduuuude]

This probably isn’t a good place to discuss the cost of owning vs. renting … 🙂

Assuming similar costs, I think the difference comes down to control.

You have much more control over a house that you own than over one you rent.

When you rent, however, you have more control over where you live, as it is easier to move to a new place you like better. So, there is some sense of control and flexibility in renting as well – though on a macro scale, not a micro scale.

You lose some control with renting, also, as you don’t have any guarantee that you can stay in a place you like for a long time.

The question is – do you want alot of control over the walls, color, landscaping, design, etc. of 1 property or the freedom to change properties ? Simple as that. I prefer the former.

For many, Carmel Valley is Nirvana. I don’t get it either, but I have come to accept that others love it.

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This probably isn’t a good place to discuss the cost of owning vs. renting … 🙂

Assuming similar costs, I think the difference comes down to control.

You have much more control over a house that you own than over one you rent.

When you rent, however, you have more control over where you live, as it is easier to move to a new place you like better. So, there is some sense of control and flexibility in renting as well – though on a macro scale, not a micro scale.

You lose some control with renting, also, as you don’t have any guarantee that you can stay in a place you like for a long time.

The question is – do you want alot of control over the walls, color, landscaping, design, etc. of 1 property or the freedom to change properties ? Simple as that. I prefer the former.

For many, Carmel Valley is Nirvana. I don’t get it either, but I have come to accept that others love it.

[sdduuuude]

This probably isn’t a good place to discuss the cost of owning vs. renting … 🙂

Assuming similar costs, I think the difference comes down to control.

You have much more control over a house that you own than over one you rent.

When you rent, however, you have more control over where you live, as it is easier to move to a new place you like better. So, there is some sense of control and flexibility in renting as well – though on a macro scale, not a micro scale.

You lose some control with renting, also, as you don’t have any guarantee that you can stay in a place you like for a long time.

The question is – do you want alot of control over the walls, color, landscaping, design, etc. of 1 property or the freedom to change properties ? Simple as that. I prefer the former.

For many, Carmel Valley is Nirvana. I don’t get it either, but I have come to accept that others love it.

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[quote=davelj]I’d rather do that then live in the Libertarian Fantasyland where I have to worry about getting shot every time I walk out the door.[/quote]

I was just answering the question – “is health-care a right.” Whatever fantasy you are talking about that involves guns isn’t one I share. You are thinking “anarchy” I believe.

Just as a general comment, I also think it is a big mistake to mix welfare and the health-care market in one big “reform” package.

Even if health-care is a right, it makes sense to keep the health-care market a free market, but to separately allow for charitable and government organizations to help people afford the market-based services.

This keeps the market efficient and inexpensive while providing funds to the needy to navigate the market.

In other words, if the government wants to force charity, they should just wrestle cash from the taxpayers and pass it along to poor people in need.

Food stamps are welfare, but at least food stamps keep the food market a clean market. They aren’t in there, trying to regulate food prices, dictate the kind of food provided, etc, which would hose-up the market for everyone else.

With health-care, they mush welfare and market mechanisms together and the market gets completely hosed up and we end up with disasters.

You can always provide health-care to all by simply giving the poor people money to spend on health-care. This is independent from fixing the mess of a health-care system we have – which involves insurance requirements, medical licensing, the FDA, and, as I see it, the whole industry is a government-regulated monopoly.

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[quote=davelj]I’d rather do that then live in the Libertarian Fantasyland where I have to worry about getting shot every time I walk out the door.[/quote]

I was just answering the question – “is health-care a right.” Whatever fantasy you are talking about that involves guns isn’t one I share. You are thinking “anarchy” I believe.

Just as a general comment, I also think it is a big mistake to mix welfare and the health-care market in one big “reform” package.

Even if health-care is a right, it makes sense to keep the health-care market a free market, but to separately allow for charitable and government organizations to help people afford the market-based services.

This keeps the market efficient and inexpensive while providing funds to the needy to navigate the market.

In other words, if the government wants to force charity, they should just wrestle cash from the taxpayers and pass it along to poor people in need.

Food stamps are welfare, but at least food stamps keep the food market a clean market. They aren’t in there, trying to regulate food prices, dictate the kind of food provided, etc, which would hose-up the market for everyone else.

With health-care, they mush welfare and market mechanisms together and the market gets completely hosed up and we end up with disasters.

You can always provide health-care to all by simply giving the poor people money to spend on health-care. This is independent from fixing the mess of a health-care system we have – which involves insurance requirements, medical licensing, the FDA, and, as I see it, the whole industry is a government-regulated monopoly.

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[quote=davelj]I’d rather do that then live in the Libertarian Fantasyland where I have to worry about getting shot every time I walk out the door.[/quote]

I was just answering the question – “is health-care a right.” Whatever fantasy you are talking about that involves guns isn’t one I share. You are thinking “anarchy” I believe.

Just as a general comment, I also think it is a big mistake to mix welfare and the health-care market in one big “reform” package.

Even if health-care is a right, it makes sense to keep the health-care market a free market, but to separately allow for charitable and government organizations to help people afford the market-based services.

This keeps the market efficient and inexpensive while providing funds to the needy to navigate the market.

In other words, if the government wants to force charity, they should just wrestle cash from the taxpayers and pass it along to poor people in need.

Food stamps are welfare, but at least food stamps keep the food market a clean market. They aren’t in there, trying to regulate food prices, dictate the kind of food provided, etc, which would hose-up the market for everyone else.

With health-care, they mush welfare and market mechanisms together and the market gets completely hosed up and we end up with disasters.

You can always provide health-care to all by simply giving the poor people money to spend on health-care. This is independent from fixing the mess of a health-care system we have – which involves insurance requirements, medical licensing, the FDA, and, as I see it, the whole industry is a government-regulated monopoly.

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[quote=davelj]I’d rather do that then live in the Libertarian Fantasyland where I have to worry about getting shot every time I walk out the door.[/quote]

I was just answering the question – “is health-care a right.” Whatever fantasy you are talking about that involves guns isn’t one I share. You are thinking “anarchy” I believe.

Just as a general comment, I also think it is a big mistake to mix welfare and the health-care market in one big “reform” package.

Even if health-care is a right, it makes sense to keep the health-care market a free market, but to separately allow for charitable and government organizations to help people afford the market-based services.

This keeps the market efficient and inexpensive while providing funds to the needy to navigate the market.

In other words, if the government wants to force charity, they should just wrestle cash from the taxpayers and pass it along to poor people in need.

Food stamps are welfare, but at least food stamps keep the food market a clean market. They aren’t in there, trying to regulate food prices, dictate the kind of food provided, etc, which would hose-up the market for everyone else.

With health-care, they mush welfare and market mechanisms together and the market gets completely hosed up and we end up with disasters.

You can always provide health-care to all by simply giving the poor people money to spend on health-care. This is independent from fixing the mess of a health-care system we have – which involves insurance requirements, medical licensing, the FDA, and, as I see it, the whole industry is a government-regulated monopoly.

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[quote=davelj]I’d rather do that then live in the Libertarian Fantasyland where I have to worry about getting shot every time I walk out the door.[/quote]

I was just answering the question – “is health-care a right.” Whatever fantasy you are talking about that involves guns isn’t one I share. You are thinking “anarchy” I believe.

Just as a general comment, I also think it is a big mistake to mix welfare and the health-care market in one big “reform” package.

Even if health-care is a right, it makes sense to keep the health-care market a free market, but to separately allow for charitable and government organizations to help people afford the market-based services.

This keeps the market efficient and inexpensive while providing funds to the needy to navigate the market.

In other words, if the government wants to force charity, they should just wrestle cash from the taxpayers and pass it along to poor people in need.

Food stamps are welfare, but at least food stamps keep the food market a clean market. They aren’t in there, trying to regulate food prices, dictate the kind of food provided, etc, which would hose-up the market for everyone else.

With health-care, they mush welfare and market mechanisms together and the market gets completely hosed up and we end up with disasters.

You can always provide health-care to all by simply giving the poor people money to spend on health-care. This is independent from fixing the mess of a health-care system we have – which involves insurance requirements, medical licensing, the FDA, and, as I see it, the whole industry is a government-regulated monopoly.

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So – you used to weigh 600 lbs and you are down to 400 now ? Good for you ! Keep up the good work !

Mine is also the same as the last 10 years:
“No more New Years resolutions.”

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