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I agree that at least the pre-college education in Europe is much better than in US, especially in math and sciences. I also went to school in Europe – though I didn’t move around. My first realization of that occured in high school when at International Olympiads in Science and Math my friends and I compared our high school curricula to the American one – we have learned much more. For example, in the country I was in, we did differential calculus in 11th grade, and integral calculus in the 12th grade – it was standard. The integral and differential calculus was not included for the Math International Olympiad, partially because in US they didn’t learn that. Don’t even get me started with geography, foreign languages (2 of them), art, literature during the whole 12 years of school.

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Thank you Rustico, I know you were talking with your experience in mind. In principal I agree with your opinions you have expressed in the previous post. It seems that your son’s school has great teachers/staff quite willing to help kids achieve their potential, and stimulating kids that are more advanced too, rather than make them bored and disinterested. For us, since we have to move around it’s more difficult to choose – too many choices!!! and you don’t really know how good a school is for your kid until after the fact. If we’d already own a place somewhere we’d make do, too, unless major problems/unhappiness. But since we have to choose a place…

With children of different personalities…it must be really tough choice.

About moving a child up…as you realize, it depends… If the child is quite hungry to excel, quite competitive – I think in the long run he would be better off skipping one grade, especially if he will end up doing graduate studies. But keeping him in the same school while doing that might accentuate the inherent social problems. It might be better off at a new school at the begining of Middle school (i.e. skip the last elementary year – don’t know if he’s still in elementary or not)…so his “skipping” is not sticking out much. It can be very problematic still seeing his classmates he left behind, and the new ones maybe being mean to him.

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Thank you Rustico, I know you were talking with your experience in mind. In principal I agree with your opinions you have expressed in the previous post. It seems that your son’s school has great teachers/staff quite willing to help kids achieve their potential, and stimulating kids that are more advanced too, rather than make them bored and disinterested. For us, since we have to move around it’s more difficult to choose – too many choices!!! and you don’t really know how good a school is for your kid until after the fact. If we’d already own a place somewhere we’d make do, too, unless major problems/unhappiness. But since we have to choose a place…

With children of different personalities…it must be really tough choice.

About moving a child up…as you realize, it depends… If the child is quite hungry to excel, quite competitive – I think in the long run he would be better off skipping one grade, especially if he will end up doing graduate studies. But keeping him in the same school while doing that might accentuate the inherent social problems. It might be better off at a new school at the begining of Middle school (i.e. skip the last elementary year – don’t know if he’s still in elementary or not)…so his “skipping” is not sticking out much. It can be very problematic still seeing his classmates he left behind, and the new ones maybe being mean to him.

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Thank you Rustico, I know you were talking with your experience in mind. In principal I agree with your opinions you have expressed in the previous post. It seems that your son’s school has great teachers/staff quite willing to help kids achieve their potential, and stimulating kids that are more advanced too, rather than make them bored and disinterested. For us, since we have to move around it’s more difficult to choose – too many choices!!! and you don’t really know how good a school is for your kid until after the fact. If we’d already own a place somewhere we’d make do, too, unless major problems/unhappiness. But since we have to choose a place…

With children of different personalities…it must be really tough choice.

About moving a child up…as you realize, it depends… If the child is quite hungry to excel, quite competitive – I think in the long run he would be better off skipping one grade, especially if he will end up doing graduate studies. But keeping him in the same school while doing that might accentuate the inherent social problems. It might be better off at a new school at the begining of Middle school (i.e. skip the last elementary year – don’t know if he’s still in elementary or not)…so his “skipping” is not sticking out much. It can be very problematic still seeing his classmates he left behind, and the new ones maybe being mean to him.

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Thank you Rustico, I know you were talking with your experience in mind. In principal I agree with your opinions you have expressed in the previous post. It seems that your son’s school has great teachers/staff quite willing to help kids achieve their potential, and stimulating kids that are more advanced too, rather than make them bored and disinterested. For us, since we have to move around it’s more difficult to choose – too many choices!!! and you don’t really know how good a school is for your kid until after the fact. If we’d already own a place somewhere we’d make do, too, unless major problems/unhappiness. But since we have to choose a place…

With children of different personalities…it must be really tough choice.

About moving a child up…as you realize, it depends… If the child is quite hungry to excel, quite competitive – I think in the long run he would be better off skipping one grade, especially if he will end up doing graduate studies. But keeping him in the same school while doing that might accentuate the inherent social problems. It might be better off at a new school at the begining of Middle school (i.e. skip the last elementary year – don’t know if he’s still in elementary or not)…so his “skipping” is not sticking out much. It can be very problematic still seeing his classmates he left behind, and the new ones maybe being mean to him.

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Thank you Rustico, I know you were talking with your experience in mind. In principal I agree with your opinions you have expressed in the previous post. It seems that your son’s school has great teachers/staff quite willing to help kids achieve their potential, and stimulating kids that are more advanced too, rather than make them bored and disinterested. For us, since we have to move around it’s more difficult to choose – too many choices!!! and you don’t really know how good a school is for your kid until after the fact. If we’d already own a place somewhere we’d make do, too, unless major problems/unhappiness. But since we have to choose a place…

With children of different personalities…it must be really tough choice.

About moving a child up…as you realize, it depends… If the child is quite hungry to excel, quite competitive – I think in the long run he would be better off skipping one grade, especially if he will end up doing graduate studies. But keeping him in the same school while doing that might accentuate the inherent social problems. It might be better off at a new school at the begining of Middle school (i.e. skip the last elementary year – don’t know if he’s still in elementary or not)…so his “skipping” is not sticking out much. It can be very problematic still seeing his classmates he left behind, and the new ones maybe being mean to him.

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In our case the mobility is due to being a renter and also possibly in the future due to job change.
It seems like we will have to move out of our current rental (various reasons) and we can opt to stay in the same attendance area (University City), or also nearby, in La Jolla. We are not likely to buy in those areas by the time she reaches middle school. PQ would be more likely to buy in (60-70% probability) with preference to the newer area south of 56. All elementary schools in all those area are very good, that is why in my OP I mentioned all schools are the same excellent level, because I don’t think any differences perceived from outside among those should influence a relocation decision.

[quote=Rustico]I agree with sddddude, Kids are preserving and developing their social intelligence. Disrupting this process poses its own risks. Our kids are in a low scoring primary school in a decent district. The social environment is fine, great actually. We chose to compensate for the academics directly, with the help of teachers and staff, as opposed to choosing “flight”. The mobility born of competitiveness in our society can be dangerous to people’s health. Our kids are happy and scoring in the high 90th percentile and national tests even though they are in a bilingual program that is supposed to slow them down initially, with the rewards kicking in around the 5th grade.

I am also concerned that “flight” has negative modeling elements for the kids. It tells them that they are going to get what they get out of life,more because of their herd, than because of themselves.I like the fact that my kids are involved with a variety of kids from families with varied financial and academic accomplishment levels.My kids are in the first and second grade in groups that have kids who can’t read in any language and kids that are grade level or multiple grade levels ahead in every area they are tested for. I don’t see any serious disadvantage for the higher achievers.[/quote]

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In our case the mobility is due to being a renter and also possibly in the future due to job change.
It seems like we will have to move out of our current rental (various reasons) and we can opt to stay in the same attendance area (University City), or also nearby, in La Jolla. We are not likely to buy in those areas by the time she reaches middle school. PQ would be more likely to buy in (60-70% probability) with preference to the newer area south of 56. All elementary schools in all those area are very good, that is why in my OP I mentioned all schools are the same excellent level, because I don’t think any differences perceived from outside among those should influence a relocation decision.

[quote=Rustico]I agree with sddddude, Kids are preserving and developing their social intelligence. Disrupting this process poses its own risks. Our kids are in a low scoring primary school in a decent district. The social environment is fine, great actually. We chose to compensate for the academics directly, with the help of teachers and staff, as opposed to choosing “flight”. The mobility born of competitiveness in our society can be dangerous to people’s health. Our kids are happy and scoring in the high 90th percentile and national tests even though they are in a bilingual program that is supposed to slow them down initially, with the rewards kicking in around the 5th grade.

I am also concerned that “flight” has negative modeling elements for the kids. It tells them that they are going to get what they get out of life,more because of their herd, than because of themselves.I like the fact that my kids are involved with a variety of kids from families with varied financial and academic accomplishment levels.My kids are in the first and second grade in groups that have kids who can’t read in any language and kids that are grade level or multiple grade levels ahead in every area they are tested for. I don’t see any serious disadvantage for the higher achievers.[/quote]

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In our case the mobility is due to being a renter and also possibly in the future due to job change.
It seems like we will have to move out of our current rental (various reasons) and we can opt to stay in the same attendance area (University City), or also nearby, in La Jolla. We are not likely to buy in those areas by the time she reaches middle school. PQ would be more likely to buy in (60-70% probability) with preference to the newer area south of 56. All elementary schools in all those area are very good, that is why in my OP I mentioned all schools are the same excellent level, because I don’t think any differences perceived from outside among those should influence a relocation decision.

[quote=Rustico]I agree with sddddude, Kids are preserving and developing their social intelligence. Disrupting this process poses its own risks. Our kids are in a low scoring primary school in a decent district. The social environment is fine, great actually. We chose to compensate for the academics directly, with the help of teachers and staff, as opposed to choosing “flight”. The mobility born of competitiveness in our society can be dangerous to people’s health. Our kids are happy and scoring in the high 90th percentile and national tests even though they are in a bilingual program that is supposed to slow them down initially, with the rewards kicking in around the 5th grade.

I am also concerned that “flight” has negative modeling elements for the kids. It tells them that they are going to get what they get out of life,more because of their herd, than because of themselves.I like the fact that my kids are involved with a variety of kids from families with varied financial and academic accomplishment levels.My kids are in the first and second grade in groups that have kids who can’t read in any language and kids that are grade level or multiple grade levels ahead in every area they are tested for. I don’t see any serious disadvantage for the higher achievers.[/quote]

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In our case the mobility is due to being a renter and also possibly in the future due to job change.
It seems like we will have to move out of our current rental (various reasons) and we can opt to stay in the same attendance area (University City), or also nearby, in La Jolla. We are not likely to buy in those areas by the time she reaches middle school. PQ would be more likely to buy in (60-70% probability) with preference to the newer area south of 56. All elementary schools in all those area are very good, that is why in my OP I mentioned all schools are the same excellent level, because I don’t think any differences perceived from outside among those should influence a relocation decision.

[quote=Rustico]I agree with sddddude, Kids are preserving and developing their social intelligence. Disrupting this process poses its own risks. Our kids are in a low scoring primary school in a decent district. The social environment is fine, great actually. We chose to compensate for the academics directly, with the help of teachers and staff, as opposed to choosing “flight”. The mobility born of competitiveness in our society can be dangerous to people’s health. Our kids are happy and scoring in the high 90th percentile and national tests even though they are in a bilingual program that is supposed to slow them down initially, with the rewards kicking in around the 5th grade.

I am also concerned that “flight” has negative modeling elements for the kids. It tells them that they are going to get what they get out of life,more because of their herd, than because of themselves.I like the fact that my kids are involved with a variety of kids from families with varied financial and academic accomplishment levels.My kids are in the first and second grade in groups that have kids who can’t read in any language and kids that are grade level or multiple grade levels ahead in every area they are tested for. I don’t see any serious disadvantage for the higher achievers.[/quote]

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In our case the mobility is due to being a renter and also possibly in the future due to job change.
It seems like we will have to move out of our current rental (various reasons) and we can opt to stay in the same attendance area (University City), or also nearby, in La Jolla. We are not likely to buy in those areas by the time she reaches middle school. PQ would be more likely to buy in (60-70% probability) with preference to the newer area south of 56. All elementary schools in all those area are very good, that is why in my OP I mentioned all schools are the same excellent level, because I don’t think any differences perceived from outside among those should influence a relocation decision.

[quote=Rustico]I agree with sddddude, Kids are preserving and developing their social intelligence. Disrupting this process poses its own risks. Our kids are in a low scoring primary school in a decent district. The social environment is fine, great actually. We chose to compensate for the academics directly, with the help of teachers and staff, as opposed to choosing “flight”. The mobility born of competitiveness in our society can be dangerous to people’s health. Our kids are happy and scoring in the high 90th percentile and national tests even though they are in a bilingual program that is supposed to slow them down initially, with the rewards kicking in around the 5th grade.

I am also concerned that “flight” has negative modeling elements for the kids. It tells them that they are going to get what they get out of life,more because of their herd, than because of themselves.I like the fact that my kids are involved with a variety of kids from families with varied financial and academic accomplishment levels.My kids are in the first and second grade in groups that have kids who can’t read in any language and kids that are grade level or multiple grade levels ahead in every area they are tested for. I don’t see any serious disadvantage for the higher achievers.[/quote]

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Wow, thanks, it’s very useful, especially to know how other people dealt with it. Our daughter so far changed 3 daycares/preschools and 2 houses with no issue at all. We include her when we visit the most interesting potential houses for rent/buy and see/ask what she likes (or not) about a house. We personally care what she thinks about a place, but we don’t let her think she has a real say in the matter. She’s pretty easygoing and liked a good number of places we saw. So far she didn’t have any problems with those changes, but she was young. She is pretty outgoing and makes friends easily – so far. I realize though that this change is of a different nature that would come on top of a change of housing.

Good idea to time the school change with the transition from elementary to middle school. She would be told years before that she will have to make this transition, but she can still meet/keep in touch with her current friends.

thanks!

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Wow, thanks, it’s very useful, especially to know how other people dealt with it. Our daughter so far changed 3 daycares/preschools and 2 houses with no issue at all. We include her when we visit the most interesting potential houses for rent/buy and see/ask what she likes (or not) about a house. We personally care what she thinks about a place, but we don’t let her think she has a real say in the matter. She’s pretty easygoing and liked a good number of places we saw. So far she didn’t have any problems with those changes, but she was young. She is pretty outgoing and makes friends easily – so far. I realize though that this change is of a different nature that would come on top of a change of housing.

Good idea to time the school change with the transition from elementary to middle school. She would be told years before that she will have to make this transition, but she can still meet/keep in touch with her current friends.

thanks!

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Wow, thanks, it’s very useful, especially to know how other people dealt with it. Our daughter so far changed 3 daycares/preschools and 2 houses with no issue at all. We include her when we visit the most interesting potential houses for rent/buy and see/ask what she likes (or not) about a house. We personally care what she thinks about a place, but we don’t let her think she has a real say in the matter. She’s pretty easygoing and liked a good number of places we saw. So far she didn’t have any problems with those changes, but she was young. She is pretty outgoing and makes friends easily – so far. I realize though that this change is of a different nature that would come on top of a change of housing.

Good idea to time the school change with the transition from elementary to middle school. She would be told years before that she will have to make this transition, but she can still meet/keep in touch with her current friends.

thanks!

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Wow, thanks, it’s very useful, especially to know how other people dealt with it. Our daughter so far changed 3 daycares/preschools and 2 houses with no issue at all. We include her when we visit the most interesting potential houses for rent/buy and see/ask what she likes (or not) about a house. We personally care what she thinks about a place, but we don’t let her think she has a real say in the matter. She’s pretty easygoing and liked a good number of places we saw. So far she didn’t have any problems with those changes, but she was young. She is pretty outgoing and makes friends easily – so far. I realize though that this change is of a different nature that would come on top of a change of housing.

Good idea to time the school change with the transition from elementary to middle school. She would be told years before that she will have to make this transition, but she can still meet/keep in touch with her current friends.

thanks!

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