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Participant[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]
Regarding California’s population—it is declining in absolute terms. If you believe otherwise, your information is old. Census comes out with annual estimates in the first quarter of the year, and then as more data comes in gives us a revised member in July. The very latest figures show a decline.
[/quote]“Californians may have been undercounted in the 2020 Census.
The Census Bureau’s decennial population count will have far-reaching consequences for California’s political representation and federal funding. Three in four Californians belong to one or more hard-to-count groups: children, young men, Latino and African American residents, and renters. Noncitizens may also have been particularly reluctant to participate, given the Trump administration’s actions to curtail immigration and its attempt to add a citizenship question to the census form. The pandemic further upended outreach efforts and affected in-person follow-ups by census workers. Parts of the final count will become available starting in April 2021, but it will take longer to fully discern how disruptions may have affected the count’s accuracy.”
https://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-population/%5B/quote%5D
Anecdotally, temeculas so crowded it can be quicker to drive to poway than one town over to murrieta. Please have a few less people .. .please…
Participant[quote=barnaby33]As to ominous trends, I was referencing you:
Yes, we have our great weather, the ocean, and hip culture. But the trends are ominous, and the future is dire compared to that of our neighboring states.
Pure unadulterated unsupported sophistry.
Sophistry, something which could be true, but is false. Also my favorite GRE word! Never made it through grad school but did love learning that word for the GRE.
Now back to ominous, another cherished GRE word. The whole world is suffering ominous trends. Overpopulation, resource limits and our concerted attempts to do nothing about them are the issue. Also on an economic front the bifuraction of our economy into winner take all tech and everything else with low margins is a real issue. California relatively is in a great position. It still has rich soil, a good (again relatively) education system and attracts the best and brightest in droves. What we haven’t figured out how to do is share that equitably with those who aren’t best, brightest or both, without turning into a full on socialist fantasyland. If you want to leave, by all means do. Utah is physically GORGEOUS. It is however intellectually speaking the 8th level of hell. It attracts refugees from rich places like CA. Folks who extracted their wealth from CA and are then reviled for ruining it (aka driving up prices) for, “average folks.” Plus it doesn’t have much water, or industry; I realize that’s not important if you’re retiring. Whatever ominous trends exist here, Utah and satellite states will always suffer it worse. When the Colorado river water finally gives out, California will get the majority of it, why? Because it’s where the people, the intellect and the industrial capacity are.
At a more personal and fundamental level flyer is right you don’t have to justify yourself to me or anyone else. I have to say however this thread, given what little I know about you just screams scared old white person running from a changing world and thats sad. You are or were a professor and that implies (one would hope) a thinker. To uproot yourself from the life you have known for 45 years because you don’t like change just seems sad. This thread would have been much more positive if it’d started out with, we’re leaving to go to X,Y,Z, not running from A,B,Change….
Josh[/quote]Although the world trends are ominous, i think it should be a non issue if yourein your 70s, be dead before it gets ugly.
It is funny, a guy works for the ca govt, sucks the state teat of State U for half a century, extracts massive wealth and takes off to save a few bucks cuz taxes n shit.
Its ron swanson from parks and rec. The anti gov gov worker.
ParticipantIts irritating beyond measure to be around a flock of trump supporters, like, i want to vomit, put distance between us, so if liberals make you feel like that, or even 50% of how irritated trumplovers make me feel, its best to separate from that type of idiocy and surround yourself with likeminded republicans who seem to still be trumploving americans.
Participant[quote=svelte][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=scaredyclassic]it is very hard to predict the future though. at the time, i remember thinking in 07 that well, maybe the bulls are right, maybe it will all double again. i suppose it could have with the right conditions. but it didn’t. its easy to look back and laugh butit’s difficult to knwo exactly when a bubble is too inflaeted, when it will burst and when th e madness will end (if in fact it does in your lifetime.). still, it’s pretty funny.[/quote]
In the future, youngscaredy, you will stop drinking and become a buddhist. Life will be ok.[/quote]
Old man, look at my life. I’m a lot like you were.[/quote]
I havent changed my mind on that thought. However im caring less.
ParticipantReminds me of this very old jackie mason comedy routine, very funny old comic, where ” every jew walks around nyc and has some building he points to and says i couldve bought that building for a nickel”.
I think the routine wad from the 60s. My point is, everything looks cheap in the past.
Participant[quote=an]Wish I have the $ I have today in 2008…[/quote]
Yes. In reality, after i bought my house in 2010, i was pretty broke. Still i should have more money than i do now. Luckily, i think my desires and expenses are shrinking by the year.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]it is very hard to predict the future though. at the time, i remember thinking in 07 that well, maybe the bulls are right, maybe it will all double again. i suppose it could have with the right conditions. but it didn’t. its easy to look back and laugh butit’s difficult to knwo exactly when a bubble is too inflaeted, when it will burst and when th e madness will end (if in fact it does in your lifetime.). still, it’s pretty funny.[/quote]
In the future, youngscaredy, you will stop drinking and become a buddhist. Life will be ok.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]i have no real estate expertise, and maybe this sign is meaningless, but when i look around redfin and continue to see loads of substantial bimonthly reductions on lots of house prices, it doesn’t seem like as a matter of common sense the bottom is in.[/quote]
Riverside is not sd, youngscaredy…
ParticipantYoung scaredy, this is a message from olds caredy from the future, 2021: relax!
Oldscaredy, this is a message from superoldscaredy from 2070: jesus christ, things are awful!
Permabear, permascare.
I do believe life will be worse, but doubt that can depress pricing of anything.
ParticipantHow will repairs be financed?
Participant[quote=gzz]I went with this $221 mattress. Will it support my massive 60M net girth? Wish me luck.
It is not a fun shopping experience.
Every single best selling mattress on Amazon is highly rated overall but has a few “It stinks and is lumpy and broke my back” reviews.
How to choose?[/quote]
The herd is generally right on mattresses. True wealth really is, after basics are met, deep sleep, amazing poops, vitality, and peace of mind. Only took me 60 years to figure this out.
Im wealthy beyond measure!
ParticipantPerhaps the best house is one where you sleep best.
If i had 30 million, and bought a 10 million house, im left with 20 million.
What if the market tanks 60%, i have 8 million and a 10 million house thats worth say half.
Sure, the market will likely rebound, but who knows when. Suddenly im waking up in the middle of the night. The house sucks! Im irritable, groggy.
Bad for sleep
Plan b. Sleep in a 2 million house, with an awesome mattress.
live off 4 perc of 28 million,
1.1 million a year, say 800k after taxes a year, not superrich but definitely conducive to deep sleep.
buy a lot of help with that. truly able to relax in freedom.
No worries! Great for sleep!
Money is only truly wonderful if you slept the night before. Ergo, having a mere 30 million, the 2 million house is far better than the 10 million house.
If you have 150 million, then you can sleep well in a 10 million house.
Participant[quote=an][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=sdrealtor]After all these years and now we are finally “going to the mattresses”[/quote]
i wonder if there’s a market for a bulletproof mattress. kind of a home safety item, with gun vault. press a button, presto, barricade against home intruders. maybe a little gun turret.[/quote]
i would be unable to sleep in such a bed. a malfunction would scar me forever. also, I think I’d rather just risk the earthquake. but it is absolutely amazing. any “dream home” over 10 million not equipped with this is justa lowlife dump
Participantstrangely, my best sleeping is done flat on the floor, on a rug, but only in midday. At night, sadly, I need a mattress. i rarely nap in bed, but I (almost) never spend the night on the floor. for naps, I prefer to dramatically collapse when sleep overcomes me. too tired to go on…must.. sleep…body falls to floor.
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